RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Degenhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer. We are not using Commtouch. For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by adding Commtouch? Our management is very happy with the current set up, esp. compared to what we used to have. However, I do spend a few hours per week tweaking settings to achieve that. Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on it's own won't get you want you want/need. As I mentioned, we are not running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and another when I added Sniffer. Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Degenhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product. We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with invURIBL and Commtouch. We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to remove it. Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously. So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server than Sniffer. We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the various test sources. It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions into the field. Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer. We are not using Commtouch. For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by adding Commtouch? Our management is very happy with the current set up, esp. compared to what we used to have. However, I do spend a few hours per week tweaking settings to achieve that. Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on it's own won't get you want you want/need. As I mentioned, we are not running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and another when I added Sniffer. Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Anyone using a spam gateway in front of declude like alligate, Imgate, or Xwall? We want something that does greylisting and tarpitting. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Gnabasik Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:15 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product. We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with invURIBL and Commtouch. We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to remove it. Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously. So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server than Sniffer. We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the various test sources. It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions into the field. Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer. We are not using Commtouch. For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by adding Commtouch? Our management is very happy with the current set up, esp. compared to what we used to have. However, I do spend a few hours per week tweaking settings to achieve that. Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on it's own won't get you want you want/need. As I mentioned, we are not running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and another when I added Sniffer. Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Our Declude setup has been a lifesaver. Without Declude we would be frustrated or out of business. You did not state your setup, iMail versus SmarterMail. Declude version?? Tests used? Mike --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Uwe, It's always a battle. However, there are a lot of good resources on this list that are willing to share and help. I am sure we can get you to the point where you can breath a bit again... Darrell -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Uwe Degenhardt wrote: Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Uwe If you are running declude alone (without ZEROHOUR) you will find yourself pretty busy tweaking. I've added decludes zerohour, as well as invURIBL, and Sniffer. With basically the stock global config, and those 3 additional tests, we see very little get through. If you are strapped for cash invURIBL is a great value. If you are not an ISP, try ZEROHOUR, it's a simple to start, and affordable email declude to try it out. Sniffer costs a bit more, but works very well, however it takes a bit of setup, but it's pretty easy to do. You are correct about spam, plug one hole, they find another. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:34 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Degenhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.