RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-19 Thread Kevin Bilbee
We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not
run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none
and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day.

We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and
less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes.

Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe
 Degenhardt
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM
 To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com)
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution.
 It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes
 feel.
 But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone
 (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all.
 I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch.
 I hope they all run with SM.
 Thanks everybody.
 Uwe
 
 
  Same Here.
 
  Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to
 Declude...(unfortunately
  on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day
 everyday)
 
  Sniffer from Armresearch
  invURIBL from invariant systems
  ZEROHOUR from Commtouch
 
  With that combo you cant go wrong.
 
  Kindest Regards
  Craig Edmonds
  123 Marbella Internet
  W: www.123marbella.net
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Darin
  Cox
  Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
  We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and
 99.9% of
  incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize
 before
  upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer
 and
  invURIBL.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 
  Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
  like to share my frustration with
  you. I am poured with SPAM the last
  two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
  every day. Am I the only one who
  is seeing this ?
  I am in a good contact with David
  of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
  job, but sometimes I loose my faith
  and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
  It appeals to me, as it is like the old
  principle: If you put water on the fire
  at one place, you have to run to the next
  place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
  will get cleverer everyday.
  What do you guys think ?
  Are you frustrated as well ?
 
  Uwe
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-19 Thread Todd Richards
We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer.  We are not using Commtouch.
For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by
adding Commtouch?  Our management is very happy with the current set up,
esp. compared to what we used to have.  However, I do spend a few hours per
week tweaking settings to achieve that.

Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on
it's own won't get you want you want/need.  As I mentioned, we are not
running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and
another when I added Sniffer.

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not
run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none
and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day.

We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and
less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes.

Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Uwe Degenhardt
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM
 To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com)
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution.
 It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel.
 But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run 
 Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all.
 I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch.
 I hope they all run with SM.
 Thanks everybody.
 Uwe
 
 
  Same Here.
 
  Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to
 Declude...(unfortunately
  on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day
 everyday)
 
  Sniffer from Armresearch
  invURIBL from invariant systems
  ZEROHOUR from Commtouch
 
  With that combo you cant go wrong.
 
  Kindest Regards
  Craig Edmonds
  123 Marbella Internet
  W: www.123marbella.net
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Darin
  Cox
  Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
  We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and
 99.9% of
  incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize
 before
  upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer
 and
  invURIBL.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 
  Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to 
  share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last 
  two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who 
  is seeing this ?
  I am in a good contact with David
  of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
  job, but sometimes I loose my faith
  and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
  It appeals to me, as it is like the old
  principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to 
  run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will 
  get cleverer everyday.
  What do you guys think ?
  Are you frustrated as well ?
 
  Uwe
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-19 Thread Glenn Gnabasik
I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the
company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product.

We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with
invURIBL and Commtouch.

We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to
remove it.

Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the
Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously.

So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server
than Sniffer.

We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to
probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and
only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the
various test sources.

It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the
spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between
introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions
into the field.

Glenn



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer.  We are not using Commtouch.
For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by
adding Commtouch?  Our management is very happy with the current set up,
esp. compared to what we used to have.  However, I do spend a few hours per
week tweaking settings to achieve that.

Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on
it's own won't get you want you want/need.  As I mentioned, we are not
running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and
another when I added Sniffer.

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not
run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none
and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day.

We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and
less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes.

Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Uwe Degenhardt
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM
 To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com)
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution.
 It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel.
 But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run 
 Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all.
 I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch.
 I hope they all run with SM.
 Thanks everybody.
 Uwe
 
 
  Same Here.
 
  Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to
 Declude...(unfortunately
  on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day
 everyday)
 
  Sniffer from Armresearch
  invURIBL from invariant systems
  ZEROHOUR from Commtouch
 
  With that combo you cant go wrong.
 
  Kindest Regards
  Craig Edmonds
  123 Marbella Internet
  W: www.123marbella.net
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Darin
  Cox
  Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
  We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and
 99.9% of
  incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize
 before
  upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer
 and
  invURIBL.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 
  Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to 
  share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last 
  two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who 
  is seeing this ?
  I am in a good contact with David
  of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
  job, but sometimes I loose my faith
  and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
  It appeals to me, as it is like the old
  principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to 
  run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will 
  get cleverer everyday.
  What do you guys think ?
  Are you frustrated as well ?
 
  Uwe
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-19 Thread Chuck Schick
Anyone using a spam gateway in front of declude like alligate, Imgate, or
Xwall?

We want something that does greylisting and tarpitting.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn
Gnabasik
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:15 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the
company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product.

We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with
invURIBL and Commtouch.

We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to
remove it.

Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the
Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously.

So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server
than Sniffer.

We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to
probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and
only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the
various test sources.

It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the
spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between
introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions
into the field.

Glenn



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer.  We are not using Commtouch.
For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by
adding Commtouch?  Our management is very happy with the current set up,
esp. compared to what we used to have.  However, I do spend a few hours per
week tweaking settings to achieve that.

Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on
it's own won't get you want you want/need.  As I mentioned, we are not
running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and
another when I added Sniffer.

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not
run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none
and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day.

We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and
less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes.

Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Uwe Degenhardt
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM
 To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com)
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution.
 It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel.
 But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run 
 Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all.
 I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch.
 I hope they all run with SM.
 Thanks everybody.
 Uwe
 
 
  Same Here.
 
  Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to
 Declude...(unfortunately
  on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day
 everyday)
 
  Sniffer from Armresearch
  invURIBL from invariant systems
  ZEROHOUR from Commtouch
 
  With that combo you cant go wrong.
 
  Kindest Regards
  Craig Edmonds
  123 Marbella Internet
  W: www.123marbella.net
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Darin
  Cox
  Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
  We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and
 99.9% of
  incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize
 before
  upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer
 and
  invURIBL.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
 
 
  Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to 
  share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last 
  two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who 
  is seeing this ?
  I am in a good contact with David
  of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
  job, but sometimes I loose my faith
  and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
  It appeals to me, as it is like the old
  principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to 
  run to the next place to delete it there too

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread Darin Cox
We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of 
incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before 
upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and 
invURIBL.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration


Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
like to share my frustration with
you. I am poured with SPAM the last
two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
every day. Am I the only one who
is seeing this ?
I am in a good contact with David
of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
job, but sometimes I loose my faith
and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
It appeals to me, as it is like the old
principle: If you put water on the fire
at one place, you have to run to the next
place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
will get cleverer everyday.
What do you guys think ?
Are you frustrated as well ?

Uwe




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread Michael Jaworski
Our Declude setup has been a lifesaver. Without Declude we would be
frustrated or out of business.

You did not state your setup, iMail versus SmarterMail. Declude version??
Tests used?


Mike




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Uwe,

It's always a battle.  However, there are a lot of good resources on 
this list that are willing to share and help.  I am sure we can get you 
to the point where you can breath a bit again...


Darrell

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Uwe Degenhardt wrote:

Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
like to share my frustration with
you. I am poured with SPAM the last
two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
every day. Am I the only one who
is seeing this ?
I am in a good contact with David
of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
job, but sometimes I loose my faith
and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
It appeals to me, as it is like the old
principle: If you put water on the fire
at one place, you have to run to the next
place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
will get cleverer everyday.
What do you guys think ?
Are you frustrated as well ?

Uwe




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread John Doyle
Uwe
If you are running declude alone (without ZEROHOUR) you will find yourself
pretty busy tweaking. I've added decludes zerohour, as well as invURIBL, and
Sniffer. With basically the stock global config, and those 3 additional tests,
we see very little get through. 

If you are strapped for cash invURIBL is a great value.
If you are not an ISP, try ZEROHOUR, it's a simple to start, and affordable 
email declude to try it out. 
Sniffer costs a bit more, but works very well, however it takes a bit of setup,
but it's pretty easy to do. 

You are correct about spam, plug one hole, they find another.

John


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Uwe
Degenhardt
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:34 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration


Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
like to share my frustration with
you. I am poured with SPAM the last
two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
every day. Am I the only one who
is seeing this ?
I am in a good contact with David
of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
job, but sometimes I loose my faith
and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
It appeals to me, as it is like the old
principle: If you put water on the fire
at one place, you have to run to the next
place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
will get cleverer everyday.
What do you guys think ?
Are you frustrated as well ?

Uwe




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread Craig Edmonds \(123marbella.com\)
Same Here.

Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately
on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday)

Sniffer from Armresearch
invURIBL from invariant systems
ZEROHOUR from Commtouch

With that combo you cant go wrong.

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.net

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of 
incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before 
upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and 
invURIBL.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration


Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
like to share my frustration with
you. I am poured with SPAM the last
two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
every day. Am I the only one who
is seeing this ?
I am in a good contact with David
of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
job, but sometimes I loose my faith
and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
It appeals to me, as it is like the old
principle: If you put water on the fire
at one place, you have to run to the next
place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
will get cleverer everyday.
What do you guys think ?
Are you frustrated as well ?

Uwe




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

2007-07-18 Thread Uwe Degenhardt
Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution.
It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes
feel.
But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone
(We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all.
I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch.
I hope they all run with SM.
Thanks everybody.
Uwe


 Same Here.

 Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately
 on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday)

 Sniffer from Armresearch
 invURIBL from invariant systems
 ZEROHOUR from Commtouch

 With that combo you cant go wrong.

 Kindest Regards
 Craig Edmonds
 123 Marbella Internet
 W: www.123marbella.net

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin
 Cox
 Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration

 We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of
 incoming spam.   Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before
 upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and
 invURIBL.

 Darin.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration


 Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would
 like to share my frustration with
 you. I am poured with SPAM the last
 two-to-three weeks. It gets worse
 every day. Am I the only one who
 is seeing this ?
 I am in a good contact with David
 of Declude. He is doing a fantastic
 job, but sometimes I loose my faith
 and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight.
 It appeals to me, as it is like the old
 principle: If you put water on the fire
 at one place, you have to run to the next
 place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs
 will get cleverer everyday.
 What do you guys think ?
 Are you frustrated as well ?

 Uwe




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