[Declude.JunkMail] Missing delivery headers?

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
I know that this is one of those bogus eBay messages (see attached log and header snippets), but I'm trying to figure out why some of the delivery headers are missing and where they might be getting removed. The Postfix gateway logs show the message was received from

[Declude.JunkMail] Re-training needed..

2003-12-01 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi.. I have searched all over the archive and the manual and can't find what exactly it is that we have added to our global statement. I know that it must have made sense when we added it.. COMMENTS comments weight x 5 0 The manual only talks about the test but has no examples.. I

[Declude.JunkMail] Another phishing attempt..

2003-12-01 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; Just saw this caught.. it seems like it is another phishing attempt.. Regards, Kami == X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.202.36.78]X-Declude-Spoolname: Dc3520209011e0efa.SMDX-Note: This E-mail was scanned filtered by Declude [1.76i28] for SPAM virus.X-Weight:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Re-training needed..

2003-12-01 Thread Don Brown
Hi Kami, According to my notes . . . COMMENTS comments weight x 10 0 In the above case, the weight of the E-mail will be increased by the number of anti-filtering comments that are found (plus the base weight of the test). So if there are 3 in there, the weight will be increased

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing delivery headers?

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
What are others seeing that are running gateways in front of their IMail servers? It appears to only be happening with these bogus eBay messages, but I don't know what it is about these particular messages that would cause some of the headers to disappear. This is unusual -- either Postfix isn't

[Declude.JunkMail] Refusing message based on nul sender

2003-12-01 Thread serge
how paranoid should you be to refuse message based on this only criteria ? 20031127 154038 127.0.0.1 SMTP (07980D3F) 501 5.7.1 MX of sender (mail.cefib.com.) does not accept address as required by RFC 821, 1123, 2505, and 2821 20031127 154038 127.0.0.1 SMTP (07980D3F) ERR

AW: [Declude.JunkMail] More ATTACH and MAILBOX questions

2003-12-01 Thread Guhl, Markus (LDS)
Title: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] More ATTACH and MAILBOX questions hi scott, since more then 2000 of my users use web messaging the attach action is no real option for me. i use declude virus as well and there i use the emailnotifikation for the recipient when an email is hold because of a

Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] More ATTACH and MAILBOX questions

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
since more then 2000 of my users use web messaging the attach action is no real option for me. i use declude virus as well and there i use the emailnotifikation for the recipient when an email is hold because of a vulnerability. in this notification i give the queue file name of the hold email

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

2003-12-01 Thread Frederick Samarelli
I have my system setup as listed below. Why would the system ingnore the WEIGHT100 DELETE it is performing WEIGHT40 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] (In the top of my Filters) SKIPIFWEIGHT 100 MAXWEIGHT100 $default$.junkmail WEIGHT100 DELETE Global.cfg WEIGHT100 weight x x 100 0

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have my system setup as listed below. Why would the system ingnore the WEIGHT100 DELETE Note that the SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT options in the latest interim release only apply to the filters that they are listed in. it is performing WEIGHT40 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] (In the top of my

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

2003-12-01 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Once again I found my own problem. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Frederick Samarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT I have my system setup as listed below. Why would the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

2003-12-01 Thread Frederick Samarelli
So if I want to perform an action at 100 should I change these to: SKIPIFWEIGHT 101 MAXWEIGHT101 - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
So if I want to perform an action at 100 should I change these to: SKIPIFWEIGHT 101 MAXWEIGHT101 No. You definitely, positively should not be using SKIPIFWEIGHT or MAXWEIGHT right now unless you understand exactly how they work. I would urge you to wait until the next beta before

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-12-01 Thread paul
Andy, You have all of these tests running? What's the impact on the server for all of these? What's your mail load? I just love having to replace all these tests every month or so, don't we all? LOL! But I want to lessen the impact on our server as much as possible. What of these tests do you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-12-01 Thread Alejandro Valenzuela
Paul What program do you use to get those statistics listed ?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1 Andy,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-12-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Paul: It's hard to measure the actual impact, as this machine serves a few functions. However, my unscientific observation has been, that two other applications on that machine are gobbling up most of its CPU use. Declude's use is noticeable - but minor - and seems to be mostly for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Itemized Summaries by Customer/Domain

2003-12-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
What program do you use to get those statistics listed ?? DL Analyzer. I love this tool. I have it set up to send daily/weekly summaries of all emails held or deleted for certain domains to the technical contacts of some larger customers. All they used to know was how much email they get,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-12-01 Thread Mark Smith
FWIW, I run many more tests than this -- about 30 total plus the internal Declude tests, External Sniffer, and Declude Virus. Message load is about 150,000 messages per day on a dual 2.8 Ghz. No performance hits noticed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Scott, feature request. (Sigh, another one.) Can you add something like this: SUBJECT 0 STARTSWITHSPACE I am seeing a good amount of spam where the subject line starts with a space and then some character and then the subject. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You ---

[Declude.JunkMail] MONKEYFORMMAIL, MONKEYPROXIES

2003-12-01 Thread andyb
Hi, I noticed this test in my config file, but there are no longer in the Declude default config files... Are they still valid tests? Thanks, Andy --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MONKEYFORMMAIL, MONKEYPROXIES

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
I noticed this test in my config file, but there are no longer in the Declude default config files... Are they still valid tests? They are no longer around. They were killed off by spammers. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, feature request. (Sigh, another one.) Can you add something like this: SUBJECT 0 STARTSWITHSPACE I am seeing a good amount of spam where the subject line starts with a space and then some character and then the subject. Ah, good idea -- I'll see if we can add that.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
Scott, Instead of adding it a command, how about you just create a substitution string for space, i.e. [space]. This way it could be used in this fashion, as well as before some words (as a delimiter in the sense that Bill earlier suggested). SUBJECT 0 BEGINSWITH [space] BODY

[Declude.JunkMail] Per User

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
On the per user configurations, any problems if the user has a period in the name? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

[Declude.JunkMail] Best way to forward E-mail from an AOL account

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
I'm just looking for a recommendation from someone that has set this up since I have no experience with it. I have a client that needs to forward two AOL E-mail addresses over to accounts on our server. Does AOL offer this, or do you have to go through a third party? If you have to go

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
This way, if it starts a trend, we can not filter on [space] anymore.. Yes, but right now we can't filter on a space :) Scott might also get a little fancy and convert the special character combinations from MIME like =3D to ASCII equivalents before processing the filters. He's already

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
If an IP is caught and held by HOLD2, but a sender who is listed by ALLOWADDR sends a e-mail from the IP, will that message be held or passed? ALLOWADDR and ALLOWIP override all other settings, so their mail should be allowed through. Example, IP 10.10.10.1 is held. Joe using [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Does any one know if vianet.ca is a valid domain use of simpatico.ca mail servers? X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'sympatico.ca' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid shimmer.vianet.ca. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread Kevin
Hi, I highly recommend it. I've been using it for over a year now and it has caught a lot of spam. I am considering Maps too. But it's $1500/yr. Anyone using them? Kevin At 01:36 PM 12/1/2003, you wrote: Is sniffer worth the $300/year? Thinking about trying it. Thanks, andy --- [This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Hi Andy, I think Sniffer is available as a demo. It's worth trying.-- http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Try-It.html -- and I think it has improved in recent months. fwiw: Sniffer catches a lot of stuff that is also caught by other (free) ip4r and RHSBL lists. However, these last few

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Absolutly worth it's cost... Darrell andyb writes: Is sniffer worth the $300/year? Thinking about trying it. Thanks, andy --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best way to forward E-mail from an AOL account

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I Don't think AOL allows forwarding. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
Any idea why I am getting this ?? 12/01/2003 16:03:12 Invalid WHITELIST type: AUTH I Just removed the # from the #WHITELIST AUTH line on the default Global config file.. I am running Imail 8.04 WHITELIST AUTH requires Declude JunkMail v1.76 or later.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
I subscribed to MAPS for a while - but then found that it was not catching anything that I didn't catch with public tests. But that was probably a year ago that I compared it. Results may be different now. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread Keith Purtell
I've double-checked the logs for something like that; no luck. I'm mystified. Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
I've double-checked the logs for something like that; no luck. I'm mystified. What is the exact message in the E-mail headers saying that it was whitelisted? Are you using WHITELIST AUTH or AUTOWHITELIST? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
It's not really a reserved word since the suggestion was space enclosed in square brackets - how often have you seen that used in a sentence: wow, I really [space] out sometimes... ;-) Bill - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
Absolutely! It has been a very nice addition to our spam arsenal. Bill - Original Message - From: andyb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer Is sniffer worth the $300/year? Thinking about trying it.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
That's just it, I am seeing the use of [] in spam subject lines. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:32 PM To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread Sheldon Koehler
I am considering Maps too. But it's $1500/yr. Anyone using them? I have problems at $1500/yr. If it was like $500 I would probably be using it. It was a good list when it was free and I am sure it is still a good list. I just cannot justify the expense for it. For now Sniffer is the only paid

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Kami Razvan
[Bill] [stranger] [things] [have] [happened] [in] [the] [past]. [space] [may] [not] [be] [used] [but] [starting] [reserve] [words] [can] [start] [a] [precedent] [that] [could] [make] [filtering] [and] [debugging] [a] [nightmare]. [Regards,] [:)] [Kami] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] HOLD and WARN

2003-12-01 Thread andyb
Hi, I'm using SPAMCOP as part of the weighting system and as a HOLD action by itself. Because of this, In spamreview it shows a total WEIGHT but SPAMCOP isn't listed, though I know it added to the WEIGHT because of the spamlog. I take it that's just how it is? IS there a way to have it show in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread andyb
I've got it in and running...seems to be helping already. - Original Message - From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer Absolutely! It has been a very nice addition to our spam arsenal.

[Declude.JunkMail] Header question

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any one else seeing this in the headers, good or bad? X-Mailer: Atriks Professional Email Deployment Service John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread Dave Marchette
I could be on the wrong track here but if you use the 'Whitelist To' function on your domain, then if a spammer sends an email to the user that is whitelist to'd, all other users that appear on the TO address line of that email will also receive the 'Whitelist To' behavior. Example: UserB is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
So how would that hurt anything if all it provides is a way to delimit a test and tell Declude that this [space] is a space? Bill - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
Oh, yes, now it get it... [eye rolling out of head onto floor] ;-) Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with [Bill] [stranger] [things] [have]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread Keith Purtell
True. However, in the case of the samples I'm looking at, each was addressed to only one user. Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOLD and WARN

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Create 2 SPAMCOP tests, the first one action WARN and the second action HOLD. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:06 PM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
What is the exact message in the E-mail headers saying that it was whitelisted? X-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted Are you using WHITELIST AUTH or AUTOWHITELIST? No and yes. In the case of the particular user whose incoming mail I extracted the spam from, none of the spammer addresses where in her

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list

2003-12-01 Thread Dave Marchette
I wonder how that feature reacts with a BCC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Purtell Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Finding reason for white list True. However, in the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Refusing message based on nul sender

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
It is a little harsh but allowable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
Oh, and the other thing to remember is, this is not something that Declude would be searching for anywhere in the message, this is only something that is used to define a delimiter to Declude. Just like the delimiter you can define in SpamChk: SpaceChar=# Which allows you to define

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-01 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi Andy- Excellent service, reasonably priced, and it is sometimes the only thing that catches them. Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: andyb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer Is

[Declude.JunkMail] What is this about ??

2003-12-01 Thread David Barrett
I've gotten serveral of these the past few minutes. Below are the full headers ..I'm assuming they are trying to relay ??? There was no subject nor message as well as a rcpt to ... Also it seems that declude is claiming that 216.204.154.7 has no MX. DnsStuff.com reports: How I am searching:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Header question

2003-12-01 Thread David Barrett
http://atriks.com/email_deployment.htm Seen quite a few of them. Yet to figure the company out though. Seems like a great place for spammers to hang out ... Dave - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Best way to forward E-mail from an AOL account

2003-12-01 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi, Matt- I just checked with the horse's, er, mouth... AOL says they do not allow auto forwarding at all. Your customer must log on to her AOL account and forward the messages manually. Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Matthew Bramble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Header question

2003-12-01 Thread Dave Doherty
Sounds to me like a good phrase to base a rule on. I read the explanation there. Fascinating reading, folks! Is there a test we can use to detect Atriks in the headers, or do we have to create an IMail rule? Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: David Barrett [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Header question

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
The line I posted is what was seen in the headers, and would therefore be a good line to use in a filter file. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty