Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-02 Thread Darin Cox
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use? Sorry, you're right... Sometimes when I'm under the weather I switch things around... Have you checked the other suggestion... making sure the last line has a carriage return afterwards? Darin. - Original Message - From: Agid, Corby

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-02 Thread Chuck Schick
As other have noted - don't waste your time. One of our class C's is part of a class B that a spammer at some time had a couple of IP blocks in. As their approach is that any collateral damage is acceptable, they blocked the entire class B. As reputable and competent administrators do not

[Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2

2005-09-02 Thread Timothy Bohen
Ok of course I upgraded and never thought to check this mailing list, I'm trying to catch up, but what are the issues with Declude and Imail 8.2? Should I disable declude? Big reason I'm asking is I'm getting slow delivery, wondering if this is because of 8.2 and declude not getting along??

[Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi Everyone, I just purchased declude two days ago. I'm running Declude with message sniffer on a smartermail server. So far, it is working very well. The approach that I have been trying to take is to, wherever possible, avoid creating a custom filter entry to trap a specific email. Below

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Darin Cox
Best recommendation? Add message sniffer from sortmonster.com. It is the single best test on our system. Darin. - Original Message - From: Dave Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dave, One of the biggest things you can do since to help out since you are already running Sniffer is look at adding URI filtering. For example that domain is currently listed in black.uribl.com. If you want to give URI filtering a try check out our site - http://www.invariantsystems.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Kevin Bilbee
He said he is running mesage sniffer? He should add INVURIBL to check the URI Black lists. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi Dave: Welcome! You'll find that tweaking weights and flters is an ongoing proposition. You have BADHEADERS weighted at more than half your tag weight, so that is a good start. I do not add any weight for SPFUNKNOWN, and I have found the country filter to be of little use. One

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Welcome to the list, Dave! Sometimes the bad guys win. Like virus detection, spam detection is mostly a matter of reacting to the bad guys and blocking them, so they do get some in. If you try to achieve 100% spam blocking, you will devote your life to it and you'll burn out after spending too

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-02 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use? I just added a carriage return, but my entry in question wasn't at the end. I've tweeked my list to hopefully cover all the options, but now it's a waiting game to see if it actually works since the senders in question don't send usthings very

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-02 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use? Darin, I'm still confused on what part of the message converstation would be compared to the whitelist entry. A message often has a different values for the From Header and the envelope (not sure if I'm using the correct terms). The Reverse DNS is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Scott Fisher
I agree with Andrew's #6 6) Not that *I* would do such a thing, but if *one* were to strobe the /24 netblock that the message came from, you would see definite patterns in the naming conventions and could certainly predict how the spammer is going to change his domain names for the next spam

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Erik
I'll comment. ;-) invURIBL and Sniffer are very effective. With these two alone we have nearly removed ALL body/subject/header/etc... Filtering from Declude. The email that you questioned about and as Darrell pointed out, did fail invURIBL on our system as well. Erik -Original

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-02 Thread Darin Cox
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use? Hi Corby, The best way to determine explicitly what it's using is to add custom header to the email. There are several you may find useful, but the one I'm referring to can be added by adding a line like XINHEADERX-Note: FROM: %MAILFROM% to your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Suggestions on catching a spam message?

2005-09-02 Thread Matt
The first one of these hit my system at about 8:30 a.m. From the first dozen, two passed and 10 failed a score of 13 (my minimum weight to block the message for most domains). By 11:30 a.m. messages from this class C were being picked up by MailPolice, SURBL, Sniffer and SpamCop and they have

[Declude.JunkMail] Paradise.net.nz

2005-09-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any comments about this ISP? It was in my bad mail file and I can not find why it was put in there. John T eServices For You --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2

2005-09-02 Thread Don Brown
We upgraded to 8.21 and experienced an extremely slow smtp. It got so bad that connecting MTA's we giving up and retrying, when the message was actually received but Imail was too slow to acknowledge it. We rolled back to 8.15. That was on a box running 2003 WEB edition. We've since tested

[Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
I just setup Sniffer for the first time and I'm wondering what people have their external test weight set to. My global.cfg came with a sniffer test already configured (though it was commented out) to have a weight of 7, which actually gives it a weight of 8 for some reason I couldn't figure

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Best thing is to ask on the Sniffer List. I actually have 17 Sniffer tests based upon exit code, with weights ranging from 15 to 35. I hold at 25 and delete at 35. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread gbirdsall
Personally, my sniffer is set to 2/3 of my hold weight, that test really doesn't give me troube as long as I keep my .snf file updated. I'm curious as to what other people do as well. - greg I just setup Sniffer for the first time and I'm wondering what people have their external test

[Declude.JunkMail] EServices Autowhite?

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Does anyone happen to know how Eservice's autothite program validates its license key against the official host name? Does it compare to an IMAIL registry key or does it look somewhere else? I run smartermail and I'm wondering if I add the IMAIL registery keys that contain the OHN if it wouldn't

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Doherty
John, does that mean sniffer runs 17 times on each mesage, or does it return multiple codes? - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EServices AutoWhite?

2005-09-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I have responded to each e-mail, including the one you sent 15 minutes ago. On the phone on Wednesday, I did explain that AutoWhite is not tested in a SmarterMail configuration. AutoWhite for Declude does indeed look at the Imail registry for the OHN. John T eServices For You -Original

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
In the Global.cfg, as long as the Sniffer call line is the same except for the return code area, Declude will only call Sniffer once and compare the exit code to those configured. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Pete McNeil
Sorry to but in - can't resist... ;-) The test will run only once, but it will be evaluated for each possible result (Declude is smart that way). You might even have more than one test use SNF and add weight.. for example, SNIFFER ... nonzero and SNFSPECIFIC ... result. Many folks and the AI

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Doherty
Thanks. - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question In the Global.cfg, as long as the Sniffer call line is the same except for the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
It runs Sniffer once and caches the exit code comparing it to the other identical sniffer calls with different return codes. Darrell --- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering. Stops 85%+ SPAM with the default configuration. Download a copy today -

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Kevin Rogers
Thanks for all your help. I'll refer to the Sniffer list in the future. But for the moment - I was wondering what the other Sniffer tests would look like in your global.cfg file. How do you test for certain return codes? Also, what criteria are you using for these return codes (in other

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Temp Folder backing up.

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Hi everyone, First I want to thank all of you who responded to my earlier question about catching the spam that was missed. I adopted some of the suggestions and I appreciate all of the good advice that was offered. You guys know your stuff! I wanted to respond to you all but unfortunately

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EServices AutoWhite?

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom
John, I just found 17,000 messages backed up in my spool/proc directory. I have yet to do some research and find out if that is a smartermail directory or perhaps the declude overflow directory. I moved them back into the spool and the 17,000 messages just went through. There were 26 messages

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Sniffer Question

2005-09-02 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Kevin, Here is a post to the archive which as an example: http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg15084.html Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Temp Folder backing up.

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom
I have a theory. I found the Declude process counter tool and I ran it. It showed an average between 0 - 2 Declude process running. I shut down as much other stuff as I could and the PROC folder began clearing out. As soon as I reenabled invURIBL and Message Sniffer the PROC queue began to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Temp Folder backing up.

2005-09-02 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dave, What is the CPU like of your box with the external tests enabled? Is your CPU at 100%? Darrell --- DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail and Virus. Download it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Temp Folder backing up.

2005-09-02 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Darrell, It averages between 25% - 40% with occasional spikes to about 80%. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:20 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0.3 update

2005-09-02 Thread Webmaster - GlobalWeb.net
We installed the latest 3.0.3 beta tonight; the decludeproc service shot to 99% of CPU and stayed there for 15 minutes. During this time we accumulated over 1000 items in the proc folder; nothing was going out. Anyone else experienced this? We stopped/re-started the decludeproc service, as

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0.3 update

2005-09-02 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Randy, One issue I found with 3.0.3 that has been reported to Declude is that the work directory is not created by default or at least it was not on my system. Make sure you have a work directory - if not create it (i.e. /spool/proc/work). Also, they are investigating another issue where

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Temp Folder backing up.

2005-09-02 Thread Matt
Dave, A couple of questions. First off, what is your average daily volume of E-mail on your server? Secondly, what is your CPU and hard drive configuration. Thirdly, what version of Declude are you running? Lastly, when you login as admin and go to Settings General Settings, what is your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EServices Autowhite?

2005-09-02 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Does anyone happen to know how Eservice's autothite program validates its license key against the official host name? Does it compare to an IMAIL registry key or does it look somewhere else? It uses the IMail top-level hostname from the registry, like old versions of Declude.