RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
FWIW, We're running Windows 2003 server with imail gateways on 4 inbound MX servers for MS Exchange 2003 We process about 300,000 messages per day. No problems here. Actually, we've been talking about moving the OS back to Windows XP workstation. Since we only use iMail as a gateway relayer, there's no need to run IIS. There's no issue with more than 10 concurrent sessions so why waste the Server license when we can just use a workstation license? Mark Smith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Here is a couple of quick stats from the responses: Of those using Windows Server 2003 at the time; 0-5K messages per day 4 5K-10K messages per day 2 10K-20K messages per day 2 20K-30K messages per day 1 30K-50K messages per day 0 50K-75K messages per day 1 75K-100K messages per day 0 100K or more per day 1 Now, how can you see a pattern with those amounts of respondes with problems on W2K3 compared to W2K? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Statistically, a random 10% sample is sufficient on a lot of things. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Hey John they do samples in surveys of less that of your sample as compared to the number of Imail servers. If you consider the number of people that watch TV and the small sample of people that NEILSON users to rate a shows popularity. I bet you have a better sampling than they do. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey does not give a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times that many out there, if not way more. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
That's kind of conflicting, isnt it? Saying it's the way to go, but then it has weird, unidentifiable problems with large volumes of mail. :) I'm not sure how you define large volumes, the Imail server in question will move over 2Mbps sustained of mail at some points of the day. That's quite a bit, considering it's mostly text. Is there a compelling reason to go with win2k3? Jonathan At 12:12 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
IMHO, go with W2K3. There are some issues, but not wide spread, and IMHO may not be the fault of the OS. I gave my opinion. You want to research more, read the Imail archives. BTW, traffic size is not the most important factor. Number of messages is what matters along with how users connect. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 That's kind of conflicting, isnt it? Saying it's the way to go, but then it has weird, unidentifiable problems with large volumes of mail. :) I'm not sure how you define large volumes, the Imail server in question will move over 2Mbps sustained of mail at some points of the day. That's quite a bit, considering it's mostly text. Is there a compelling reason to go with win2k3? Jonathan At 12:12 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
Hi all We run Imail on 2k3 with no problems at all. We do not run DNS on it 2k3, we have a linux server that is just for imail/delcude to use. It seems to run smooth. We process around 100,000 pieces of mail a day. Steve DLAnalyzer Support wrote: John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses as a service to Keeling Inc. Customers] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses as a service to Keeling Inc. Customers] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey does not give a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times that many out there, if not way more. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
I'm just giving you a hard time, John. I appreciate your effort to collate some data on the subject. Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey does not give a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times that many out there, if not way more. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
Hey John they do samples in surveys of less that of your sample as compared to the number of Imail servers. If you consider the number of people that watch TV and the small sample of people that NEILSON users to rate a shows popularity. I bet you have a better sampling than they do. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey does not give a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times that many out there, if not way more. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
Statistically, a random 10% sample is sufficient on a lot of things. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Hey John they do samples in surveys of less that of your sample as compared to the number of Imail servers. If you consider the number of people that watch TV and the small sample of people that NEILSON users to rate a shows popularity. I bet you have a better sampling than they do. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey does not give a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times that many out there, if not way more. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems more stable over time but not if Imail doesn't support it well yet. g Thoughts? Jonathan At 05:04 PM 12/4/2003, you wrote: The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
Here is a couple of quick stats from the responses: Of those using Windows Server 2003 at the time; 0-5K messages per day 4 5K-10K messages per day 2 10K-20K messages per day2 20K-30K messages per day1 30K-50K messages per day0 50K-75K messages per day1 75K-100K messages per day 0 100K or more per day1 Now, how can you see a pattern with those amounts of respondes with problems on W2K3 compared to W2K? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Statistically, a random 10% sample is sufficient on a lot of things. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Hey John they do samples in surveys of less that of your sample as compared to the number of Imail servers. If you consider the number of people that watch TV and the small sample of people that NEILSON users to rate a shows popularity. I bet you have a better sampling than they do. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey does not give a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times that many out there, if not way more. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :)) Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly from small to mid size setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K. Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart out there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DLAnalyzer Support Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 John, I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with Imail/etc. Were the results of that ever posted? Darrell Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you are able to. Ipswitch does support running Imail on W2K3. There are some possible issues. 1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail Anti-Spam DNS tests is a problem. 2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail list when the server processes a high volume of messages per day. Nothing seems to be conclusive as far as I know to date, and from the posts, I have not seen a definite pattern. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So I haven't heard anything else back on this .. are you guys all staying away from Windows 2003 and Imail? I'm having a hard time trying to justify the risk of running new servers on 2k3 when 2k works just fine .. but then again, 2k3 seems
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
The issues seem to appear at high volumes. Besides, I am more than willing to use those licenses for you. ;) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003 So, what's the scoop with current Imail 8, declude, sniffer, etc on Windows 2003 Server? We're thinking about moving it to some new iron internally, and Ive got some 2k3 licenses just burning a hole in my pocket. :) I heard some stability issues, saw some imail patches/etc .. things stable (and *robust*) now? Relatively high volumes of email .. Jonathan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
