Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Graveen
I would go with 2008 R2 Standard (it's 64bit only).  That way you can go past 
4GB of RAM if you'd like (up to 32GB).  Your server's processor will need to 
support a 64bit OS to use it.  I don't know if there are issues running SM on a 
desktop OS like Win 7 Pro.

Hope this helps.

Mike



Last June I posted a question and got some great replies. Being preoccupied 
with work that actually pays me money, I haven't done anything yet, but the 
time is getting close. My question now is: what OS?

Our old Imail 2006 runs on Win Server 2000. Would SmarterMail run on Win 7 Pro? 
Would it run on a 64-bit version and would there be any point in using the 
64-bit version? I ask because I've actually got a spare system sitting around 
with just that and it has 4 GB of RAM. I'd like to take advantage of all that 
ram.

Thanks in advance,

Ben




From: IMail Admin
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:28 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?


Thanks, that helped.




From: Todd Richards
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?


Hey Ben -

If you haven't already, you can download a trial of SmarterMail to give you a 
hands on feel for how the interface works, from the system administrator to a 
domain administrator to an end user.  I can't speak to the latest version of 
SmarterMail as we are still running 6.9xx (we have a current subscription but 
never felt the need yet to upgrade - probably will soon), nor can I offer a 
good comparison, since we were still on IMail 8.2x when we made the change.  
There were three main reasons we made the switch:  cost, a much improved web 
interface from our IMail 8.2x version, and the massive number of positive 
recommendations about switching to SM.  Like the others, we have never looked 
back.  We too were on the unlimited version of IMail, but are on a 1000 user 
version of SmarterMail.  That has proved plenty for us at this point.  The nice 
thing is, if we need more then we add them on.

We are heavy users of the Mailing Lists in SmarterMail.  I like the fact that 
we can manage subscribers separate from lists.  Our main domain (the one that I 
am on) currently has almost 70 mailing lists.  It's great that, via the web 
interface, we can add a single subscriber to multiple lists.  We can also go 
into the individual lists and manage subscribers as well.  You can add your own 
custom fields to the subscriber screens if you want to track Name, City, 
Company Name, etc.  It also has the ability to remove a user from the lists if 
they have a certain number of bounces.  While that feature was nice, we 
actually increased it (maybe even turned it off - can't remember for sure 
without going and looking) because it would remove someone and nobody ever knew 
about it.  There were requests about maybe alerting the administrator of such a 
change, or disabling a user versus removing them, etc.  I'm just not sure 
whether that part has been upgraded.  Again, we are on SmarterMail 6.9 but I 
don't think the rest of it has changed that much.

The one thing that I didn't like about the mailing lists is that we had an ASP 
page with all of the options that people could subscribe to.  At the end, when 
they hit submit, it would fire off an email to IMail and subscribe (or 
unsubscribe) them from all of their choices in one swoop.  SmarterMail didn't 
handle things that way, and would simply make the change for the first option 
but ignore the rest of them.  We weren't aware of that at first and had people 
think they were making changes but they really weren't.  SmarterMail does offer 
the ability to tie web pages to the mail server using SOAP, etc.  But I don't 
know it and haven't had the time to make the changeover.

Todd





From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?


I guess my three areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web 
mail interface, how they compare in administration, and how they compare in 
list server.  We make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty 
primitive), but I would hate to give it up altogether.



Thanks for any comments,



Ben

- Original Message -

From: Heimir Eidskrem

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?


We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

I would do it again with no hesitation.

On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Ima

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2012-01-26 Thread Imail Admin
Last June I posted a question and got some great replies. Being preoccupied 
with work that actually pays me money, I haven’t done anything yet, but the 
time is getting close. My question now is: what OS?

Our old Imail 2006 runs on Win Server 2000. Would SmarterMail run on Win 7 Pro? 
Would it run on a 64-bit version and would there be any point in using the 
64-bit version? I ask because I’ve actually got a spare system sitting around 
with just that and it has 4 GB of RAM. I’d like to take advantage of all that 
ram.

Thanks in advance,

Ben

  From: IMail Admin
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:28 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

  Thanks, that helped.


  From: Todd Richards
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:18 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

  Hey Ben –



  If you haven’t already, you can download a trial of SmarterMail to give you a 
hands on feel for how the interface works, from the system administrator to a 
domain administrator to an end user.  I can’t speak to the latest version of 
SmarterMail as we are still running 6.9xx (we have a current subscription but 
never felt the need yet to upgrade – probably will soon), nor can I offer a 
good comparison, since we were still on IMail 8.2x when we made the change.  
There were three main reasons we made the switch:  cost, a much improved web 
interface from our IMail 8.2x version, and the massive number of positive 
recommendations about switching to SM.  Like the others, we have never looked 
back.  We too were on the unlimited version of IMail, but are on a 1000 user 
version of SmarterMail.  That has proved plenty for us at this point.  The nice 
thing is, if we need more then we add them on.



  We are heavy users of the Mailing Lists in SmarterMail.  I like the fact that 
we can manage subscribers separate from lists.  Our main domain (the one that I 
am on) currently has almost 70 mailing lists.  It’s great that, via the web 
interface, we can add a single subscriber to multiple lists.  We can also go 
into the individual lists and manage subscribers as well.  You can add your own 
custom fields to the subscriber screens if you want to track Name, City, 
Company Name, etc.  It also has the ability to remove a user from the lists if 
they have a certain number of bounces.  While that feature was nice, we 
actually increased it (maybe even turned it off – can’t remember for sure 
without going and looking) because it would remove someone and nobody ever knew 
about it.  There were requests about maybe alerting the administrator of such a 
change, or disabling a user versus removing them, etc.  I’m just not sure 
whether that part has been upgraded.  Again, we are on SmarterMail 6.9 but I 
don’t think the rest of it has changed that much.



  The one thing that I didn’t like about the mailing lists is that we had an 
ASP page with all of the options that people could subscribe to.  At the end, 
when they hit submit, it would fire off an email to IMail and subscribe (or 
unsubscribe) them from all of their choices in one swoop.  SmarterMail didn’t 
handle things that way, and would simply make the change for the first option 
but ignore the rest of them.  We weren’t aware of that at first and had people 
think they were making changes but they really weren’t.  SmarterMail does offer 
the ability to tie web pages to the mail server using SOAP, etc.  But I don’t 
know it and haven’t had the time to make the changeover.



  Todd









  From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:12 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



  I guess my three areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web 
mail interface, how they compare in administration, and how they compare in 
list server.  We make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty 
primitive), but I would hate to give it up altogether.



  Thanks for any comments,



  Ben

- Original Message -

From: Heimir Eidskrem

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

I would do it again with no hesitation.




On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Imail Admin wrote:

I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail 
system.  I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing 
Win2k Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the 
one hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2012-01-26 Thread Nick Hayer
Sm has a free version - I'd say grab it and check it out.   Regarding any 
performance bottlenecks - probably the folks at SM would be the most help.


-Nick

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Emergency Support 24/7: supp...@skywaves.net

General and Non-Emergency support ticket:

https://www.skywaves.com/content/secure/support_ticket.htm



From: "IMail Admin" 

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:26 PM

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

Last June I posted a question and got some great replies. Being preoccupied
with work that actually pays me money, I haven't done anything yet, but the time
is getting close. My question now is: what OS?

Our old Imail 2006 runs on Win Server 2000. Would SmarterMail run on Win 7
Pro? Would it run on a 64-bit version and would there be any point in using the
64-bit version? I ask because I've actually got a spare system sitting around
with just that and it has 4 GB of RAM. I'd like to take advantage of all that
ram.

Thanks in advance,

Ben




From: IMail Admin
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:28 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to
what?



Thanks, that helped.




From: Todd Richards
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to
what?



Hey Ben -

If you haven't already, you can
download a trial of SmarterMail to give you a hands on feel for how the
interface works, from the system administrator to a domain administrator to an
end user.  I can't speak to the latest version of SmarterMail as we are
still running 6.9xx (we have a current subscription but never felt the need yet
to upgrade - probably will soon), nor can I offer a good comparison, since we
were still on IMail 8.2x when we made the change.  There were three main
reasons we made the switch:  cost, a much improved web interface from our
IMail 8.2x version, and the massive number of positive recommendations about
switching to SM.  Like the others, we have never looked back.  We too
were on the unlimited version of IMail, but are on a 1000 user version of
SmarterMail.  That has proved plenty for us at this point.  The nice
thing is, if we need more then we add them on.

We are heavy users of the
Mailing Lists in SmarterMail.  I like the fact that we can manage
subscribers separate from lists.  Our main domain (the one that I am on)
currently has almost 70 mailing lists.  It's great that, via the web
interface, we can add a single subscriber to multiple lists.  We can also
go into the individual lists and manage subscribers as well.  You can add
your own custom fields to the subscriber screens if you want to track Name,
City, Company Name, etc.  It also has the ability to remove a user from the
lists if they have a certain number of bounces.  While that feature was
nice, we actually increased it (maybe even turned it off - can't remember for
sure without going and looking) because it would remove someone and nobody ever
knew about it.  There were requests about maybe alerting the administrator
of such a change, or disabling a user versus removing them, etc.  I'm just
not sure whether that part has been upgraded.  Again, we are on SmarterMail
6.9 but I don't think the rest of it has changed that
much.

The one thing that I didn't like
about the mailing lists is that we had an ASP page with all of the options that
people could subscribe to.  At the end, when they hit submit, it would fire
off an email to IMail and subscribe (or unsubscribe) them from all of their
choices in one swoop.  SmarterMail didn't handle things that way, and would
simply make the change for the first option but ignore the rest of them.
We weren't aware of that at first and had people think they were making changes
but they really weren't.  SmarterMail does offer the ability to tie web
pages to the mail server using SOAP, etc.  But I don't know it and haven't
had the time to make the changeover.

Todd





From:
Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]

Sent: Monday, June 06,
2011 6:12 PM

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to
what?



I guess my three
areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web mail interface, how
they compare in administration, and how they compare in list server.  We
make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty primitive), but I
would hate to give it up altogether.



Thanks for any
comments,



Ben

- Original
Message -

From: Heimir Eidskrem

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Monday, June 06,
2011 1:41 PM

Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I
thin

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2012-01-26 Thread IMail Admin
Last June I posted a question and got some great replies. Being preoccupied 
with work that actually pays me money, I haven’t done anything yet, but the 
time is getting close. My question now is: what OS?

Our old Imail 2006 runs on Win Server 2000. Would SmarterMail run on Win 7 Pro? 
Would it run on a 64-bit version and would there be any point in using the 
64-bit version? I ask because I’ve actually got a spare system sitting around 
with just that and it has 4 GB of RAM. I’d like to take advantage of all that 
ram.

Thanks in advance,

Ben


From: IMail Admin
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:28 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

Thanks, that helped.


From: Todd Richards
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

Hey Ben –



If you haven’t already, you can download a trial of SmarterMail to give you a 
hands on feel for how the interface works, from the system administrator to a 
domain administrator to an end user.  I can’t speak to the latest version of 
SmarterMail as we are still running 6.9xx (we have a current subscription but 
never felt the need yet to upgrade – probably will soon), nor can I offer a 
good comparison, since we were still on IMail 8.2x when we made the change.  
There were three main reasons we made the switch:  cost, a much improved web 
interface from our IMail 8.2x version, and the massive number of positive 
recommendations about switching to SM.  Like the others, we have never looked 
back.  We too were on the unlimited version of IMail, but are on a 1000 user 
version of SmarterMail.  That has proved plenty for us at this point.  The nice 
thing is, if we need more then we add them on.



We are heavy users of the Mailing Lists in SmarterMail.  I like the fact that 
we can manage subscribers separate from lists.  Our main domain (the one that I 
am on) currently has almost 70 mailing lists.  It’s great that, via the web 
interface, we can add a single subscriber to multiple lists.  We can also go 
into the individual lists and manage subscribers as well.  You can add your own 
custom fields to the subscriber screens if you want to track Name, City, 
Company Name, etc.  It also has the ability to remove a user from the lists if 
they have a certain number of bounces.  While that feature was nice, we 
actually increased it (maybe even turned it off – can’t remember for sure 
without going and looking) because it would remove someone and nobody ever knew 
about it.  There were requests about maybe alerting the administrator of such a 
change, or disabling a user versus removing them, etc.  I’m just not sure 
whether that part has been upgraded.  Again, we are on SmarterMail 6.9 but I 
don’t think the rest of it has changed that much.



The one thing that I didn’t like about the mailing lists is that we had an ASP 
page with all of the options that people could subscribe to.  At the end, when 
they hit submit, it would fire off an email to IMail and subscribe (or 
unsubscribe) them from all of their choices in one swoop.  SmarterMail didn’t 
handle things that way, and would simply make the change for the first option 
but ignore the rest of them.  We weren’t aware of that at first and had people 
think they were making changes but they really weren’t.  SmarterMail does offer 
the ability to tie web pages to the mail server using SOAP, etc.  But I don’t 
know it and haven’t had the time to make the changeover.



Todd









From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



I guess my three areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web 
mail interface, how they compare in administration, and how they compare in 
list server.  We make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty 
primitive), but I would hate to give it up altogether.



Thanks for any comments,



Ben

  - Original Message -

  From: Heimir Eidskrem

  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:41 PM

  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



  We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
  Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

  Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

  the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

  I would do it again with no hesitation.




  On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Imail Admin wrote:

  I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail 
system.  I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing 
Win2k Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the 
one hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes any more and on 
the other hand, my old server is looking pretty lo

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2011-06-07 Thread IMail Admin
Thanks, that helped.


From: Todd Richards
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:18 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

Hey Ben –



If you haven’t already, you can download a trial of SmarterMail to give you a 
hands on feel for how the interface works, from the system administrator to a 
domain administrator to an end user.  I can’t speak to the latest version of 
SmarterMail as we are still running 6.9xx (we have a current subscription but 
never felt the need yet to upgrade – probably will soon), nor can I offer a 
good comparison, since we were still on IMail 8.2x when we made the change.  
There were three main reasons we made the switch:  cost, a much improved web 
interface from our IMail 8.2x version, and the massive number of positive 
recommendations about switching to SM.  Like the others, we have never looked 
back.  We too were on the unlimited version of IMail, but are on a 1000 user 
version of SmarterMail.  That has proved plenty for us at this point.  The nice 
thing is, if we need more then we add them on.



We are heavy users of the Mailing Lists in SmarterMail.  I like the fact that 
we can manage subscribers separate from lists.  Our main domain (the one that I 
am on) currently has almost 70 mailing lists.  It’s great that, via the web 
interface, we can add a single subscriber to multiple lists.  We can also go 
into the individual lists and manage subscribers as well.  You can add your own 
custom fields to the subscriber screens if you want to track Name, City, 
Company Name, etc.  It also has the ability to remove a user from the lists if 
they have a certain number of bounces.  While that feature was nice, we 
actually increased it (maybe even turned it off – can’t remember for sure 
without going and looking) because it would remove someone and nobody ever knew 
about it.  There were requests about maybe alerting the administrator of such a 
change, or disabling a user versus removing them, etc.  I’m just not sure 
whether that part has been upgraded.  Again, we are on SmarterMail 6.9 but I 
don’t think the rest of it has changed that much.



The one thing that I didn’t like about the mailing lists is that we had an ASP 
page with all of the options that people could subscribe to.  At the end, when 
they hit submit, it would fire off an email to IMail and subscribe (or 
unsubscribe) them from all of their choices in one swoop.  SmarterMail didn’t 
handle things that way, and would simply make the change for the first option 
but ignore the rest of them.  We weren’t aware of that at first and had people 
think they were making changes but they really weren’t.  SmarterMail does offer 
the ability to tie web pages to the mail server using SOAP, etc.  But I don’t 
know it and haven’t had the time to make the changeover.



Todd









From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



I guess my three areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web 
mail interface, how they compare in administration, and how they compare in 
list server.  We make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty 
primitive), but I would hate to give it up altogether.



Thanks for any comments,



Ben

  - Original Message -

  From: Heimir Eidskrem

  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:41 PM

  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



  We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
  Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

  Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

  the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

  I would do it again with no hesitation.




  On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Imail Admin wrote:

  I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail 
system.  I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing 
Win2k Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the 
one hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes any more and on 
the other hand, my old server is looking pretty long in the tooth.

  Â

  I started out looking at boxes to build a new server, but they're not that 
expensive any more.  Then I got caughter up in the software.  Ipswitch wants 
$2300 or some such for a software upgrade (unlimited users).  That's way more 
than I can justify spending.  I don't really need unlimited users any more, 
but I hate to give it up.  On the other hand, I recall a few years ago when 
people were switching en masse to SmaterMail so I looked at them and their 
prices are a lot nice.  Anyone care to say how the current versions of either 
software compared with my old IMail?

  Â

  I assume that I'll have to upgrade to the current version of Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2011-06-06 Thread Todd Richards
Hey Ben –



If you haven’t already, you can download a trial of SmarterMail to give you a 
hands on feel for how the interface works, from the system administrator to a 
domain administrator to an end user.  I can’t speak to the latest version of 
SmarterMail as we are still running 6.9xx (we have a current subscription but 
never felt the need yet to upgrade – probably will soon), nor can I offer a 
good comparison, since we were still on IMail 8.2x when we made the change.  
There were three main reasons we made the switch:  cost, a much improved web 
interface from our IMail 8.2x version, and the massive number of positive 
recommendations about switching to SM.  Like the others, we have never looked 
back.  We too were on the unlimited version of IMail, but are on a 1000 user 
version of SmarterMail.  That has proved plenty for us at this point.  The nice 
thing is, if we need more then we add them on.



We are heavy users of the Mailing Lists in SmarterMail.  I like the fact that 
we can manage subscribers separate from lists.  Our main domain (the one that I 
am on) currently has almost 70 mailing lists.  It’s great that, via the web 
interface, we can add a single subscriber to multiple lists.  We can also go 
into the individual lists and manage subscribers as well.  You can add your own 
custom fields to the subscriber screens if you want to track Name, City, 
Company Name, etc.  It also has the ability to remove a user from the lists if 
they have a certain number of bounces.  While that feature was nice, we 
actually increased it (maybe even turned it off – can’t remember for sure 
without going and looking) because it would remove someone and nobody ever knew 
about it.  There were requests about maybe alerting the administrator of such a 
change, or disabling a user versus removing them, etc.  I’m just not sure 
whether that part has been upgraded.  Again, we are on SmarterMail 6.9 but I 
don’t think the rest of it has changed that much.



The one thing that I didn’t like about the mailing lists is that we had an ASP 
page with all of the options that people could subscribe to.  At the end, when 
they hit submit, it would fire off an email to IMail and subscribe (or 
unsubscribe) them from all of their choices in one swoop.  SmarterMail didn’t 
handle things that way, and would simply make the change for the first option 
but ignore the rest of them.  We weren’t aware of that at first and had people 
think they were making changes but they really weren’t.  SmarterMail does offer 
the ability to tie web pages to the mail server using SOAP, etc.  But I don’t 
know it and haven’t had the time to make the changeover.



Todd









From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



I guess my three areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web 
mail interface, how they compare in administration, and how they compare in 
list server.  We make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty 
primitive), but I would hate to give it up altogether.



Thanks for any comments,



Ben

- Original Message -

From: Heimir Eidskrem <mailto:decl...@i360.net>

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?



We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

I would do it again with no hesitation.




On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Imail Admin wrote:

I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail system.  
I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing Win2k 
Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the one 
hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes any more and on the 
other hand, my old server is looking pretty long in the tooth.

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I started out looking at boxes to build a new server, but they're not that 
expensive any more.  Then I got caughter up in the software.  Ipswitch wants 
$2300 or some such for a software upgrade (unlimited users).  That's way more 
than I can justify spending.  I don't really need unlimited users any more, 
but I hate to give it up.  On the other hand, I recall a few years ago when 
people were switching en masse to SmaterMail so I looked at them and their 
prices are a lot nice.  Anyone care to say how the current versions of either 
software compared with my old IMail?

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I assume that I'll have to upgrade to the current version of Declude, but 
otherwise that will work the same as before?

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Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.

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Thanks,

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Ben

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2011-06-06 Thread Imail Admin
I guess my three areas on concern would be how IM and SM compare in their web 
mail interface, how they compare in administration, and how they compare in 
list server.  We make pretty modest use of the IM list server (which is pretty 
primitive), but I would hate to give it up altogether.

Thanks for any comments,

Ben
  - Original Message -
  From: Heimir Eidskrem
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?


  We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
  Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

  Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

  the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

  I would do it again with no hesitation.




  On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Imail Admin wrote:
I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail 
system.  I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing 
Win2k Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the 
one hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes any more and on 
the other hand, my old server is looking pretty long in the tooth.
Â
I started out looking at boxes to build a new server, but they're not that 
expensive any more.  Then I got caughter up in the software.  Ipswitch wants 
$2300 or some such for a software upgrade (unlimited users).  That's way more 
than I can justify spending.  I don't really need unlimited users any more, 
but I hate to give it up.  On the other hand, I recall a few years ago when 
people were switching en masse to SmaterMail so I looked at them and their 
prices are a lot nice.  Anyone care to say how the current versions of either 
software compared with my old IMail?
Â
I assume that I'll have to upgrade to the current version of Declude, but 
otherwise that will work the same as before?
Â
Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.
Â
Thanks,
Â
Ben
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2011-06-06 Thread Heimir Eidskrem
We dumped Imail after being with them since version 4 I think.
Moved to Smartermail and never looked back.

Our customers really like SM and we have nothing but positive feedback.

the transition was easy with the migration tools from SM.

I would do it again with no hesitation.




On 6/1/2011 9:09 PM, Imail Admin wrote:
> I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail
> system.  I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server
> runing Win2k Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever
> it is).  On the one hand, I only have a small number of domains and
> mail boxes any more and on the other hand, my old server is looking
> pretty long in the tooth.
> I started out looking at boxes to build a new server, but they're not
> that expensive any more.  Then I got caughter up in the software.
> Ipswitch wants $2300 or some such for a software upgrade (unlimited
> users).  That's way more than I can justify spending.  I don't really
> need unlimited users any more, but I hate to give it up.  On the other
> hand, I recall a few years ago when people were switching en masse to
> SmaterMail so I looked at them and their prices are a lot nice.
> Anyone care to say how the current versions of either software
> compared with my old IMail?
> I assume that I'll have to upgrade to the current version of Declude,
> but otherwise that will work the same as before?
> Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2011-06-02 Thread IMail Admin
What is the difference from a user point of view?  If you’re using a mail 
client such as Outlook with IMAP, I imagine you wouldn’t see any difference.  
So the only place I would expect to see a change is in the web interface?

Ben


From: Nick Hayer
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:27 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

I have the latest versions of both; I bought SM to dump Imail but found that 
some customers are simply resistant to change. So rather than risk losing them 
I am keeping Imail up to date.

Privately Imail maybe receptive to price matching SM [give them a call?] - so 
that is a 3rd option.

-Nick


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From: "Imail Admin" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:10 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

?
I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail system.  
I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing Win2k 
Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the one 
hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes any more and on the 
other hand, my old server is looking pretty long in the tooth.

I started out looking at boxes to build a new server, but they're not that 
expensive any more.  Then I got caughter up in the software.  Ipswitch wants 
$2300 or some such for a software upgrade (unlimited users).  That's way more 
than I can justify spending.  I don't really need unlimited users any more, but 
I hate to give it up.  On the other hand, I recall a few years ago when people 
were switching en masse to SmaterMail so I looked at them and their prices are 
a lot nice.  Anyone care to say how the current versions of either software 
compared with my old IMail?

I assume that I'll have to upgrade to the current version of Declude, but 
otherwise that will work the same as before?

Any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ben


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re: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

2011-06-02 Thread Nick Hayer
I have the latest versions of both; I bought SM to dump Imail but found that 
some customers are simply resistant to change. So rather than risk losing them 
I am keeping Imail up to date.

Privately Imail maybe receptive to price matching SM [give them a call?] - so 
that is a 3rd option.

-Nick

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 From: "Imail Admin" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:10 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Time to upgrade and to what?

?  I've been musing over whether it's time to upgrade or replace my mail 
system.  I've got IMail (unlimited users) v 2006.23 on an old server runing 
Win2k Advanced Server with Declude v.?? (not current, whatever it is).  On the 
one hand, I only have a small number of domains and mail boxes any more and on 
the other hand, my old server is looking pretty long in the tooth.   I started 
out looking at boxes to build a new server, but they're not that expensive any 
more.  Then I got caughter up in the software.  Ipswitch wants $2300 or some 
such for a software upgrade (unlimited users).  That's way more than I can 
justify spending.  I don't really need unlimited users any more, but I hate to 
give it up.  On the other hand, I recall a few years ago when people were 
switching en masse to SmaterMail so I looked at them and their prices are a lot 
nice.  Anyone care to say how the current versions of either software compared 
with my old IMail?   I assume that I'll have to upgrade to the current version 
of Declude, but otherwise that will work the same as before?   Any suggestions 
or pointers would be appreciated.   Thanks,   Ben
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