Re: [Declude.Virus] Notifying Postmasters/ISPs etc of viruses

2003-08-21 Thread paul
 Does anyone else bother to look at the header, do a who is on the IP and
 notify the responsible party of the possible problem on their IP?  I see
the
 IPs in the e-mail headers so if someone was notified do you think they can
 find the actually infected user?  Would they bother?

MY experience, I can't get the 4 or 5 people on our service to clean the
viruses off their machines, I'm not going to waste my time trying to track
who else is infected. A lot of people A: Don't care, or B: Don't know how to
operate a computer, much less download a virus update, repair tool, etc.

 I checked some of my border appliances and saw repeated scans on port
135 -
 when I tried to tell some of the ISPs who owned the IP block that I
thought
 they might have the blaster worm, I met with hostile abuse bots telling
me
 that I didn't send them enough info or I got no reply at all.  I know I'd
 appreciate it if someone found that one of the systems in my network was
 compromised.  Is anyone doing this at all?  I mean could we find some of
 these computers with sobig and alert the cable company and they can call
the
 user to get it stopped?  I know this would be very time consuming, but
even
 if we got a few

In the end, all you can do is make sure your stuff is secure, and up to
date, and working properly. As long as your virus scanner is catching them
entering, your users should be safe. You could email til your hands fall
off, I doubt it would make any noticable difference. =)

Paul


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[Declude.Virus] Sobig F.. mutating..

2003-08-21 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



Hi;

Interesting...

"... Sobig is 
unusual in that it has the ability to go onto the Internet from its host PC and 
update itself with new capabilities, Huger said. 
Those capabilities could include tools for 
denial-of-service attacks or relaying spam. "It's entirely up to the author (of 
the virus)," Huger said. "It can download whatever its heart 
desires."
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13100787

Regards,
Kami


RE: [Declude.Virus] McAfee Enterprise 7.0 not picking up Sobig.F

2003-08-21 Thread John Shacklett
After reading your post I went in and looked at my server, and the
[expletive deleted] McAfee Autoupdater hadn't successfully processed an
update since the 19th when it pulled 4286. That meant that we were on 4286
DATs and not the current 4288. I forced an update manually, and it pulled
these new definitions just fine, but I have two days worth of failed updates
in the activity logs that just give me a sick feeling in the pit of my
stomach. I am finally seeing both scanners picking it up.



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Subject: [Declude.Virus] McAfee Enterprise 7.0 not picking up Sobig.F


I use two scanners, F-Prot and McAfee Enterprise 7.0. F-Prot is picking up
Sobig.F, but McAfee is not. I have the latest definitions, 4288, and the
latest engine 4.2.60. When I send the test eicar file as a zip, both
scanners detect it, so I know both scanners are functioning. Does anyone
have any ideas as to why my McAfee is not detecting Sobig.F?

Bill

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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to Get McAfee Daily Updates

2003-08-21 Thread Mike Wiegers
I have started using McAfee it looks like the server will reboot every day
or so. When installing (Win2k Server), what options are people using. When I
installed, I installed netshield and I'm getting the updates with the GUI. I
have disable the real time scanning but still seem to have some problems. 

Andy,
Could you send me an attachment of your batch so I can see the correct lines
of code?

Thanks,
Mike
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to Get McAfee Daily Updates


I created a batch file that runs hourly - it usually finds updated files
several times a day.  (The curl.exe is a shareware utility to automate HTTP
downloads).

kill curl -f
curl http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/SDATDAILY.EXE
-o SDATDAILYrun.EXE -s -S -R -z SDATDAILY.EXE
SDATDAILYrun.EXE /silent
copy SDATDAILYrun.EXE SDATDAILY.EXE
erase SDATDAILYrun.EXE


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/



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[Declude.Virus] notifications issue

2003-08-21 Thread andyb
Scott,

Still the sobig notifications are going out...I've check the postmaster.eml
file 3 times already.

There is one tab between skipvirusname and sobig.
There are no lines, or spaces or tabs before the first line.
There are no lines, spaces or tabs between the last skipvirusname and the
from line

Here is the top of the file

SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Sobig.f
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Mimail
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Yaha
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Lentin
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Magistr
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Klez
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Bugbear
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Bridex
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Braid
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Sobig
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Palyh
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, Andy

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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to Get McAfee Daily Updates

2003-08-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

NetShield is what I'm running. To install, I had to run:

N2Ki45L.zip  (Netshield 4.5)
NNT45SP1.zip (Netshield 4.5 SP1)

And of course then you still need to run the engine upgrade to 4.2.60 (a
regular SuperDAT will accomlish that).

(I'm not sure why you need the commands as a text file, but I sent it with
regular mail as an attachment).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wiegers
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to Get McAfee Daily Updates


I have started using McAfee it looks like the server will reboot every day
or so. When installing (Win2k Server), what options are people using. When I
installed, I installed netshield and I'm getting the updates with the GUI. I
have disable the real time scanning but still seem to have some problems. 

Andy,
Could you send me an attachment of your batch so I can see the correct lines
of code?

Thanks,
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to Get McAfee Daily Updates


I created a batch file that runs hourly - it usually finds updated files
several times a day.  (The curl.exe is a shareware utility to automate HTTP
downloads).

kill curl -f
curl http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/SDATDAILY.EXE
-o SDATDAILYrun.EXE -s -S -R -z SDATDAILY.EXE
SDATDAILYrun.EXE /silent
copy SDATDAILYrun.EXE SDATDAILY.EXE
erase SDATDAILYrun.EXE


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/



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Re: [Declude.Virus] Delete or Hold for Viruses?

2003-08-21 Thread Jim Matuska
Is there a way to automate purging of the virus hold directory?  Scott, What
about putting an option like that in declude to set a storage timeframe for
intercepted viruses?

Jim Matuska Jr.
Computer Tech II
CCNA
Nez Perce Tribe
Information Systems
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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Delete or Hold for Viruses?


 At 02:26 PM 8/20/2003, you wrote:
 With this latest Sobig variant, I have been starting to wonder whether it
 is still the best idea to be wasting storage space for the 2,000+ viruses
 that have been intercepted in the last couple days.  What is everyone
else
 doing?  Are you holding viruses intercepted or just setting Declude to
 delete them?

 We have a hold directory that is purged every 7 days.  The customers know
 that if they get a message telling them the e-mail was intercepted, that
 they have 7 days to claim it.  Some have actually requested the mail, and
 ended up infecting their machine...

 
 Jim Matuska Jr.
 Computer Tech II
 CCNA
 Nez Perce Tribe
 Information Systems
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Re: [Declude.Virus] McAfee Enterprise 7.0 not picking upSobig.F

2003-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

I did that with eicar and the On-Demand Scanner picked it up. However, when
I did it with Sobig.F, there was no attachment. Then I noticed that it was a
bounced message from another server (not using SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS). I'm now
wondering if that is why McAfee On-Demand/Declude is not picking it up,
because the virus is part of the bounced message and it appears to not be
executable. However, F-Prot and McAfee On-Access both detect Sobig.F in the
SMD file. ??
Most AV programs will not detect corrupt, non-viable variants, which often 
includes bounce messages (because those bounce messages are usually truncated).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] ERROR 3 in virus scanner 1

2003-08-21 Thread Terry Parks
Here's the command line from my config file:

SCANFILE C:\Progra~1\Fsi\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE
/NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt

Terry

On the other hand, if he doesn't have -NOBOOT and it is scanning his boot
sector, should he not be concerned that it thinks he as a boot sector virus?

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 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:46 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] ERROR 3 in virus scanner 1


 Terry, do you have the -NOBOOT switch set in your virus.cfg file?  If so,
 F-Prot should not be scanning the boot sector when called by Declude.

 Bill
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 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:24 AM
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  I've double-checked, and found that F-Prot says that an error #3 is A
  Boot/File virus infection found.
 
  Our understanding of that was that it would occur if the whole
 hard drive
  was found, and a virus was found on the boot sector of the hard
  drive.  However, that wouldn't be the case here, as only
 individual files
  are being scanned, so I'm not sure exactly what it would mean in this
 context.
  -Scott
 
  At 11:43 AM 8/21/2003, Terry Parks wrote:
  We're using F-Prot (latest version updated daily). This message is
  intermittent and not the norm (less than 1%).
  
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  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] ERROR 3 in virus scanner 1
  
  
   I'm seeing this pop up on my logs. What does this mean?
  
  That would depend on the virus scanner -- I don't have any
 information on
  the error code 3 for F-Prot or McAfee.
  
  If it is occurring for every E-mail, you may have corrupt virus
 definitions.
  
   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-21 Thread George Kulman
John, 

Here's what I send back to the IMail / Declude Postmasters.


-

I function as the Postmaster for domain.com domain.

An examination of our mail server logs indicates that the e-mail in question
was NOT sent from our mail server.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus is a Forging Virus which selects the sender name from
the address book of the infected machine.  Due to this, most anti-virus
systems are set to NOT send virus notification messages to the Forged Sender
and Domain Postmaster.  If you are truly concerned, examine the headers of
the incoming e-mail to determine the IP address of the sending server and
then use a web site such as www.samspade.org or www.dnsstuff.com to
determine the actual source.  In this case it was sent from an
otherdomain.com user's infected system.

It is also a well documented fact that erroneous notifications such as yours
are putting large amount of unnecessary traffic on the internet and
compounding the problems caused by this virus.

Out recommendation is that you set your anti-virus software to not generate
sender and sending postmaster e-mail for Forging Viruses.  The most common
forging viruses are: Bugbear, Fizzer, Klez, Magistr, Sobig (all versions),
Palyh, Yaha, Lentin, Bridex, and MiMail.

Additionally, since you are using IMail with Declude, you might want to
check out the methods for doing this such as replacing the beginning content
of your otherpostmaster.eml and sender.eml file with the following or even
disabling them for the time being by renaming them:


ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Bugbear
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Fizzer
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Klez
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Magistr
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Vulnerability
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Sobig
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Outlook 'CR' vulnerability
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Palyh
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Yaha
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Lentin
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Bridex
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  MiMail
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You might also subscribe to the Declude Virus forum where this has been a
major subject of discussion or check out the Forum Archives. To subscribe,
send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a body of subscribe
Declude.Virus Firstname Lastname. You will receive an E-mail that you will
need to respond to in order to confirm your request.  The archives can be
found at http://www.mail-archive.com and the forum is declude.junkmail


This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of correcting
your virus notification configuration.

If your mail server had a better virus protection configuration, it would
have caused less work for our server and lessened the amount of unnecessary
internet traffic.



I don't know if it accomplishes anything (probably not), but I get some
satisfaction out of it.

George


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 
 Why is it there are mail admins out there running Imail and 
 Declude that are
 continuing to send out virus notices to forged addresses?
 
 I have seen 5 in the last 24 hours.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com
 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:15 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
  
  
  There are only 2 .eml files that I'm using, recip.eml and
 postermaster.eml.
  There are no other .eml files in the declude directory.
  
  Ah, I think I know what the problem is.  That notification 
 is coming from
  *another* mailserver running Declude Virus.
  
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] ERROR 3 in virus scanner 1

2003-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

Here's the command line from my config file:

SCANFILE C:\Progra~1\Fsi\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE
/NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
Actually, it looks like the default configuration for F-Prot includes:

VIRUSCODE   3
VIRUSCODE   6
So adding the VIRUSCODE 3 line should take care of the problem.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question

2003-08-21 Thread Greg Foulks
So I disabled the On-Access scanner and I still get the error when an email
is found with a virus

08/21/2003 16:03:46 Q2584064 ERROR: Virus scanner didn't finish after 30
seconds; terminating.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Couldn't delete C:\IMail\spool\D2584064.vir\0:
32.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir directory
C:\IMail\spool\D2584064.vir\: SHARING VIOLATION.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Likely problem: An on-access scanner is
interfering; disable or set not to scan subdirectories off of \IMail\spool.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 1128]


Notice the last line of this message. The file went from being infected to
Virus Free - how?
Greg

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question


Question is do you still get the error if you disable on-access scan?
That's one way to rule it out

Darrell


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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question


I'm 99.% sure that McAfee is not scanning that directory. If I open the
On Access scanner and watch it as I open a file in that directory it does
not show the file being opened.

Could the permissions on the directory be wrong? If so-- what should it be
set to?

It isn't a permissions issue.  It is definitely a sharing violation.  It
means that some program besides Declude is accessing the directory, which
won't normally happen (how else will a program know that the directory is
there?  Not even IMail knows).  So it would have to be a program that
either knows as soon as files are written to the hard drive (as in the case
with the virus scanner), or that looks at all the files on the hard drive
(such as a backup program).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yes, that is what I have been doing on some. But I do have other work to do
too.

Of course, if everyone had their configuration correct...

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Kulman
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 John,
 
 Here's what I send back to the IMail / Declude Postmasters.
 


 -
 
 I function as the Postmaster for domain.com domain.
 
 An examination of our mail server logs indicates that the e-mail in
question
 was NOT sent from our mail server.
 
 The [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus is a Forging Virus which selects the sender name
from
 the address book of the infected machine.  Due to this, most anti-virus
 systems are set to NOT send virus notification messages to the Forged
Sender
 and Domain Postmaster.  If you are truly concerned, examine the headers of
 the incoming e-mail to determine the IP address of the sending server and
 then use a web site such as www.samspade.org or www.dnsstuff.com to
 determine the actual source.  In this case it was sent from an
 otherdomain.com user's infected system.
 
 It is also a well documented fact that erroneous notifications such as
yours
 are putting large amount of unnecessary traffic on the internet and
 compounding the problems caused by this virus.
 
 Out recommendation is that you set your anti-virus software to not
generate
 sender and sending postmaster e-mail for Forging Viruses.  The most
common
 forging viruses are: Bugbear, Fizzer, Klez, Magistr, Sobig (all
versions),
 Palyh, Yaha, Lentin, Bridex, and MiMail.
 
 Additionally, since you are using IMail with Declude, you might want to
 check out the methods for doing this such as replacing the beginning
content
 of your otherpostmaster.eml and sender.eml file with the following or even
 disabling them for the time being by renaming them:
 
 
 ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASBugbear
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASFizzer
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASKlez
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASMagistr
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASVulnerability
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASSobig
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASOutlook 'CR' vulnerability
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASPalyh
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASYaha
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASLentin
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASBridex
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASMiMail
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 You might also subscribe to the Declude Virus forum where this has been a
 major subject of discussion or check out the Forum Archives. To subscribe,
 send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a body of subscribe
 Declude.Virus Firstname Lastname. You will receive an E-mail that you
will
 need to respond to in order to confirm your request.  The archives can be
 found at http://www.mail-archive.com and the forum is declude.junkmail
 
 
 This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of
correcting
 your virus notification configuration.
 
 If your mail server had a better virus protection configuration, it would
 have caused less work for our server and lessened the amount of
unnecessary
 internet traffic.
 
 
 
 I don't know if it accomplishes anything (probably not), but I get some
 satisfaction out of it.
 
 George
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
  Tolmachoff (Lists)
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:51 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 
  Why is it there are mail admins out there running Imail and
  Declude that are
  continuing to send out virus notices to forged addresses?
 
  I have seen 5 in the last 24 hours.
 
  John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
  Engineer/Consultant
  eServices For You
  www.eservicesforyou.com
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
   Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:15 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
  
  
   There are only 2 .eml files that I'm using, recip.eml and
  postermaster.eml.
   There are no other .eml files in the declude directory.
  
   Ah, I think I know what the problem is.  That notification
  is coming from
   *another* mailserver running Declude Virus.
  
   -Scott
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[Declude.Virus] McAfee Enterprise 7.0 not picking upSobig.F

2003-08-21 Thread Bill Newberg
Scott,

Unfortunately (actually a good thing), all the virus e-mails I have left in
the \virus directory are bounces from other servers. I don't have a Sobig.F
attachment available to test. Once I receive one, I'll re-test.

Thanks,

Bill

 -- Original Message --
 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:59:18 -0400
 
 
 I did that with eicar and the On-Demand Scanner picked it 
 up. However, 
 when I did it with Sobig.F, there was no attachment. Then I noticed 
 that it was a bounced message from another server (not using 
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS). I'm now wondering if that is why McAfee 
 On-Demand/Declude is not picking it up, because the virus is part of 
 the bounced message and it appears to not be executable. However, 
 F-Prot and McAfee On-Access both detect Sobig.F in the SMD file. ??
 
 Most AV programs will not detect corrupt, non-viable 
 variants, which often 
 includes bounce messages (because those bounce messages are 
 usually truncated).
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-21 Thread Billy
 Of course, if everyone had their configuration correct...

 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com

Amen, I didn't get nearly enough sleep last night and had received this
auto-response from another declude user that had received a virus from a
forged address at my domain...

The Declude Virus software on our mail server detected the  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
virus that appears to have come from your mail server.  It was sent in
an attachment your_details.pif, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
with the subject Re: Thank you!.  The Message-ID was:
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of contacting
your user and helping them get rid of the virus.  This message was sent by
Declude Virus.

If your mail server had better virus protection, it would have caused less
work for our server and could have prevented one of your users from getting
a
virus.



 The part that set me off was them telling people that if their mail
server had better protection it would cause theirs less work!!! Arg...My
response was...

 If your mail server had better virus protection, it would have
 caused less
 work for our server and could have prevented one of your users
 from getting a
 virus.

#1 Our mail server does have better virus protection(in fact the same
yours does), and it does prevent our users from infection.
#2 If you had better administration you would turn off notifications to
postmasters and senders as it is well known the Sobig Virus and all variants
of this virus forge email addresses. I am sure I am one of many that has
received this in the wrong.
#3 Your auto response comes off unnecessarily rude, and makes your technical
staff look ignorant. I would hope this is not a reflection of how your
company does business. If you would like to cause your mail server less work
take our suggestion in #2

 Received: from DTS-ORL02 ([66.35.177.66])

Not my IP

Thank you for your time, the intention of this email is only to educate. I
am sure your technical staff is competent.


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RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question

2003-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

So I disabled the On-Access scanner and I still get the error when an email
is found with a virus
08/21/2003 16:03:46 Q2584064 ERROR: Virus scanner didn't finish after 30
seconds; terminating.
...
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 1128]

Notice the last line of this message. The file went from being infected to
Virus Free - how?
That's part of Declude's failsafes.  If Declude Virus quarantined E-mail 
whenever the virus scanner didn't finish in time, a lot of legitimate 
E-mail would get caught.

In this case, you have serious problems.  You are running software that is 
interfering with files on the hard drive.  And, your virus scanner is 
breaking when you disable the on-access virus scanner (most likely, it is 
waiting for user input).

If you use LOGLEVEL DEBUG, you should see the virus scanner windows 
during the 30 seconds they are up, and they should explain what the problem is.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question

2003-08-21 Thread Greg Foulks
I just upgraded to the latest version let's see if that fixes the problems.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Foulks
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question


So I disabled the On-Access scanner and I still get the error when an email
is found with a virus

08/21/2003 16:03:46 Q2584064 ERROR: Virus scanner didn't finish after 30
seconds; terminating.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Couldn't delete C:\IMail\spool\D2584064.vir\0:
32.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 WARNING: Couldn't remove .vir directory
C:\IMail\spool\D2584064.vir\: SHARING VIOLATION.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Likely problem: An on-access scanner is
interfering; disable or set not to scan subdirectories off of \IMail\spool.
08/21/2003 16:04:03 Q2584064 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 1128]


Notice the last line of this message. The file went from being infected to
Virus Free - how?
Greg

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darrell LaRock
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question


Question is do you still get the error if you disable on-access scan?
That's one way to rule it out

Darrell


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] On Access Question


I'm 99.% sure that McAfee is not scanning that directory. If I open the
On Access scanner and watch it as I open a file in that directory it does
not show the file being opened.

Could the permissions on the directory be wrong? If so-- what should it be
set to?

It isn't a permissions issue.  It is definitely a sharing violation.  It
means that some program besides Declude is accessing the directory, which
won't normally happen (how else will a program know that the directory is
there?  Not even IMail knows).  So it would have to be a program that
either knows as soon as files are written to the hard drive (as in the case
with the virus scanner), or that looks at all the files on the hard drive
(such as a backup program).

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Delete or Hold for Viruses?

2003-08-21 Thread Markus Gufler
You can try www.zcom.it/decludeupdater/ictcleaner.zip

Markus



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Delete or Hold for Viruses?
 
 
 Is there a way to automate purging of the virus hold 
 directory?  Scott, What about putting an option like that in 
 declude to set a storage timeframe for intercepted viruses?
 
 Jim Matuska Jr.
 Computer Tech II
 CCNA
 Nez Perce Tribe
 Information Systems
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 From: Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Delete or Hold for Viruses?
 
 
  At 02:26 PM 8/20/2003, you wrote:
  With this latest Sobig variant, I have been starting to wonder 
  whether it is still the best idea to be wasting storage 
 space for the 
  2,000+ viruses that have been intercepted in the last 
 couple days.  
  What is everyone
 else
  doing?  Are you holding viruses intercepted or just 
 setting Declude 
  to delete them?
 
  We have a hold directory that is purged every 7 days.  The 
 customers 
  know that if they get a message telling them the e-mail was 
  intercepted, that they have 7 days to claim it.  Some have actually 
  requested the mail, and ended up infecting their machine...
 
  
  Jim Matuska Jr.
  Computer Tech II
  CCNA
  Nez Perce Tribe
  Information Systems mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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[Declude.Virus] NoMaxQueProc

2003-08-21 Thread Alan Walters
I just updated my Declude Virus to v1.75 and ran DECLUDE -DIAG to confirm.
At the top of the text display I saw NoMaxQueProc.  I don't recall seeing
this before.  Is this okay?

Alan Walters
Director of I.T.
Royce Medical

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Re: [Declude.Virus] TCP WAIT TIME

2003-08-21 Thread Roger Heath
Reply to: Adrian Hauri
  Re: [Declude.Virus] TCP WAIT TIME on Thursday 7:48:49 PM

Thanks! Yes. I think this is part of my problem. Also, someone
from Ipswitch was asking if I was getting lots of wait times in
HTTP service.. so I would like to experiment with this..

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- Copy of Original Message(s): -

A Has anyone of you guys ever had this problem? It could be helpful during the
A high traffic time that the Sobig Virus causes:
A http://www.stalker.com/CommuniGatePro/Scalability.html#TimeWait


A Adrian

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