Re: [Declude.Virus] FW: Your mail server sent us a virus

2004-01-30 Thread R. Scott Perry

Scott - did you ever find these guys?  They still don't get it...

Received: from prudentialrand.com [65.160.6.2] by mail.toplineus.com with 
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.07) id A36A225A007C; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:08:26 -0500
We're still trying to track them the toplineus.com people.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] FW: Your mail server sent us a virus

2004-01-30 Thread R. Scott Perry

Scott - did you ever find these guys?  They still don't get it...
I finally got a hold of someone there.  It looks like they will fix the 
problem, but I just have to convince them first that it wasn't really 
someone on your server that sent the virus.  :)

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Re: [Declude.Virus] FW: Your mail server sent us a virus

2004-01-29 Thread Greg Foulks
I think public humiliation is a good thing ;-)

Greg

R. Scott Perry wrote:


Here's another, do you want these off list?


Yes, off-list would be best (unless others on the list would like to 
see them -- if so, speak up).

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Re: [Declude.Virus] FW: Your mail server sent us a virus

2004-01-29 Thread niceman
Include this link to the (ir)responsible postmasters:

 http://www.attrition.org/security/rant/av-spammers.html
 Here's another, do you want these off list?
 I have tried to e-mail this guy twice already:
 
 Subject: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 
 The Declude Virus software on our mail server detected the  the
 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus !!!
 virus that appears to have come from your mail server.  It was sent in
 an attachment data.zip, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 with the subject test.  The Message-ID was:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].
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Re: [Declude.Virus] FW: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-09-05 Thread Webmaster Oilfield Directory
Been dealing with the same kind of people that i deal with ALL the the time
eh  LOL!
- Original Message - 
From: Marc Catuogno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] FW: Your mail server sent us a virus


 Scott can you bitch slap this moron?  I've sent him three separate
 e-mails with detailed instructions (I think I even copied one to the
 list) on how to turn this off in Declude and he hasn't replied once.
 Maybe you have a better contact e-mail.

 Marc

 -Original Message-
 From: Postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Your mail server sent us a virus

 The Declude Virus software on our mail server detected the  the
 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus !!!
 virus that appears to have come from your mail server.  It was sent in
 an attachment thank_you.pif, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 with the subject Re: Approved.  The Message-ID was:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of
 contacting
 your user and helping them get rid of the virus.  This message was sent
 by
 Declude Virus.

 If your mail server had better virus protection, it would have caused
 less
 work for our server and could have prevented one of your users from
 getting a
 virus.

 The headers from the E-mail are:

 Received: from DJHX0Y21 [68.193.182.54] by eastwestresorts.com with
 ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-7.13) id A1F34F800078; Thu, 04 Sep 2003 15:43:15 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Approved
 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 17:42:30 --0400
 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean
 Importance: Normal
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=_NextPart_000_53E041C4
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-21 Thread George Kulman
John, 

Here's what I send back to the IMail / Declude Postmasters.


-

I function as the Postmaster for domain.com domain.

An examination of our mail server logs indicates that the e-mail in question
was NOT sent from our mail server.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus is a Forging Virus which selects the sender name from
the address book of the infected machine.  Due to this, most anti-virus
systems are set to NOT send virus notification messages to the Forged Sender
and Domain Postmaster.  If you are truly concerned, examine the headers of
the incoming e-mail to determine the IP address of the sending server and
then use a web site such as www.samspade.org or www.dnsstuff.com to
determine the actual source.  In this case it was sent from an
otherdomain.com user's infected system.

It is also a well documented fact that erroneous notifications such as yours
are putting large amount of unnecessary traffic on the internet and
compounding the problems caused by this virus.

Out recommendation is that you set your anti-virus software to not generate
sender and sending postmaster e-mail for Forging Viruses.  The most common
forging viruses are: Bugbear, Fizzer, Klez, Magistr, Sobig (all versions),
Palyh, Yaha, Lentin, Bridex, and MiMail.

Additionally, since you are using IMail with Declude, you might want to
check out the methods for doing this such as replacing the beginning content
of your otherpostmaster.eml and sender.eml file with the following or even
disabling them for the time being by renaming them:


ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Bugbear
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Fizzer
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Klez
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Magistr
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Vulnerability
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Sobig
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Outlook 'CR' vulnerability
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Palyh
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Yaha
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Lentin
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  Bridex
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS  MiMail
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You might also subscribe to the Declude Virus forum where this has been a
major subject of discussion or check out the Forum Archives. To subscribe,
send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a body of subscribe
Declude.Virus Firstname Lastname. You will receive an E-mail that you will
need to respond to in order to confirm your request.  The archives can be
found at http://www.mail-archive.com and the forum is declude.junkmail


This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of correcting
your virus notification configuration.

If your mail server had a better virus protection configuration, it would
have caused less work for our server and lessened the amount of unnecessary
internet traffic.



I don't know if it accomplishes anything (probably not), but I get some
satisfaction out of it.

George


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 
 Why is it there are mail admins out there running Imail and 
 Declude that are
 continuing to send out virus notices to forged addresses?
 
 I have seen 5 in the last 24 hours.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:15 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
  
  
  There are only 2 .eml files that I'm using, recip.eml and
 postermaster.eml.
  There are no other .eml files in the declude directory.
  
  Ah, I think I know what the problem is.  That notification 
 is coming from
  *another* mailserver running Declude Virus.
  
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yes, that is what I have been doing on some. But I do have other work to do
too.

Of course, if everyone had their configuration correct...

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Kulman
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:14 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 John,
 
 Here's what I send back to the IMail / Declude Postmasters.
 


 -
 
 I function as the Postmaster for domain.com domain.
 
 An examination of our mail server logs indicates that the e-mail in
question
 was NOT sent from our mail server.
 
 The [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus is a Forging Virus which selects the sender name
from
 the address book of the infected machine.  Due to this, most anti-virus
 systems are set to NOT send virus notification messages to the Forged
Sender
 and Domain Postmaster.  If you are truly concerned, examine the headers of
 the incoming e-mail to determine the IP address of the sending server and
 then use a web site such as www.samspade.org or www.dnsstuff.com to
 determine the actual source.  In this case it was sent from an
 otherdomain.com user's infected system.
 
 It is also a well documented fact that erroneous notifications such as
yours
 are putting large amount of unnecessary traffic on the internet and
 compounding the problems caused by this virus.
 
 Out recommendation is that you set your anti-virus software to not
generate
 sender and sending postmaster e-mail for Forging Viruses.  The most
common
 forging viruses are: Bugbear, Fizzer, Klez, Magistr, Sobig (all
versions),
 Palyh, Yaha, Lentin, Bridex, and MiMail.
 
 Additionally, since you are using IMail with Declude, you might want to
 check out the methods for doing this such as replacing the beginning
content
 of your otherpostmaster.eml and sender.eml file with the following or even
 disabling them for the time being by renaming them:
 
 
 ONLYSENDIFREMOTESENDER
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASBugbear
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASFizzer
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASKlez
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASMagistr
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASVulnerability
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASSobig
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASOutlook 'CR' vulnerability
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASPalyh
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASYaha
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASLentin
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASBridex
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHASMiMail
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 You might also subscribe to the Declude Virus forum where this has been a
 major subject of discussion or check out the Forum Archives. To subscribe,
 send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a body of subscribe
 Declude.Virus Firstname Lastname. You will receive an E-mail that you
will
 need to respond to in order to confirm your request.  The archives can be
 found at http://www.mail-archive.com and the forum is declude.junkmail
 
 
 This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of
correcting
 your virus notification configuration.
 
 If your mail server had a better virus protection configuration, it would
 have caused less work for our server and lessened the amount of
unnecessary
 internet traffic.
 
 
 
 I don't know if it accomplishes anything (probably not), but I get some
 satisfaction out of it.
 
 George
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
  Tolmachoff (Lists)
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:51 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 
  Why is it there are mail admins out there running Imail and
  Declude that are
  continuing to send out virus notices to forged addresses?
 
  I have seen 5 in the last 24 hours.
 
  John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
  Engineer/Consultant
  eServices For You
  www.eservicesforyou.com
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
   Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:15 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus
  
  
   There are only 2 .eml files that I'm using, recip.eml and
  postermaster.eml.
   There are no other .eml files in the declude directory.
  
   Ah, I think I know what the problem is.  That notification
  is coming from
   *another* mailserver running Declude Virus.
  
   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-21 Thread Billy
 Of course, if everyone had their configuration correct...

 John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
 Engineer/Consultant
 eServices For You
 www.eservicesforyou.com

Amen, I didn't get nearly enough sleep last night and had received this
auto-response from another declude user that had received a virus from a
forged address at my domain...

The Declude Virus software on our mail server detected the  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
virus that appears to have come from your mail server.  It was sent in
an attachment your_details.pif, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
with the subject Re: Thank you!.  The Message-ID was:
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

This notice is sent as a courtesy so that you have the option of contacting
your user and helping them get rid of the virus.  This message was sent by
Declude Virus.

If your mail server had better virus protection, it would have caused less
work for our server and could have prevented one of your users from getting
a
virus.



 The part that set me off was them telling people that if their mail
server had better protection it would cause theirs less work!!! Arg...My
response was...

 If your mail server had better virus protection, it would have
 caused less
 work for our server and could have prevented one of your users
 from getting a
 virus.

#1 Our mail server does have better virus protection(in fact the same
yours does), and it does prevent our users from infection.
#2 If you had better administration you would turn off notifications to
postmasters and senders as it is well known the Sobig Virus and all variants
of this virus forge email addresses. I am sure I am one of many that has
received this in the wrong.
#3 Your auto response comes off unnecessarily rude, and makes your technical
staff look ignorant. I would hope this is not a reflection of how your
company does business. If you would like to cause your mail server less work
take our suggestion in #2

 Received: from DTS-ORL02 ([66.35.177.66])

Not my IP

Thank you for your time, the intention of this email is only to educate. I
am sure your technical staff is competent.


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Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus

2003-08-15 Thread andyb
Hi Scott,

I did that, but I'm still getting the notifications

Thanks, Andy

- Original Message -
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Your mail server sent us a virus


 That's due to the Mimail virus -- if you add a line SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS
 Mimail to the top of the \IMail\Declude\sender.eml and
 \IMail\Declude\otherpostmaster.eml files, you won't get those anymore.
  -Scott

 At 01:28 PM 8/13/2003, andyb wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I keep getting these...any ideas?
 
 Thanks, Andy
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:33 AM
 Subject: Your mail server sent us a virus
 
 
   The Declude software on our mail server detected a virus that appears
to
 have
   come from your mail server.  It was sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   with the subject your account oamoshgs.  The
 Message-ID was:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED].
  
   If your mail server had virus protection, it would have caused less
work
 for
   our server and would have likely prevented one of your users from
getting
 a
   virus in the first place!
  
   Virus name: : W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   File name:  message.zip
  
   This is an automated message sent by Declude Virus (
 http://www.declude.com ).
  
 
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