Can't answer your question directly, but Windows 7 RTM is available on
MSDN today I believe.
So it's already out.
Don't know if that makes your decision easier or not. ;-)
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz]
On Behalf Of
yeah but work has the MSDN Lic. not me :-(
Jeremy
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Conor Boyd
Sent: 7 August 2009 09:35
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?
Can't answer your
I fully recommend installing Win7, I know this shouldn't be said but
there are plenty of torrents for the RTM build, when you can finally
purchase the RTM (or get it through other MS channels), just enter your
product key. You can re-arm it when necessary (up to 120 days I think)
so the RTM
Windows 7 is out, I'm downloading it now. If your computer supports 64, then
install vista 64. There is no good reason to be using Vista 32. I have been
using Vista 64 for over a year, and Win 7 64 since beta. Neither has had a 64
related problem and I get the use of all my memory.
Regards
aiui if you've only got 4GB of RAM then I don't think 64-bit is going to
make that much of a difference. Of course, if you have the capacity to go
beyond 4GB of physical RAM and the intention to do so, then 64-bit might be
worthwhile.
w.r.t Window 7 - I installed the RC (build 7100) as an
Stick Delphi in a VM. Solves all number of problems.
Regards
Sean Cross
CIO
Catalyst Risk Management
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jason Coley
Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 9:56 a.m.
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There is no good reason to be using Vista 32.
Unless you rely on shell extensions written in Delphi.
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I have installed Windows7 beta in a VM session (32bit only) and it flew
even on my old/current machine.
Has anyone tried Delphi7 on it? I unfortuntily have to support some stuff
with Delphi 7 and it need to run on it.
Jeremy
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz
Vista 32 will never see all 4 gb due to mapping issues with the video card etc.
Under Vista 32, I got between 3 and 3.5 gb available on my laptops. Vista 64
got the lot. How much you lose depends on your video card memory.
Regards
Sean Cross
CIO
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From:
Well yes, because the VM has to use 32bit (doesn't it).
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz]
On Behalf Of Sean Cross
Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:11 a.m.
To: Jason
Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?
Stick Delphi in a VM. Solves all number of
The real question though is how much benefit you actually got from that
extra 0.5 - 1GB ?
I'm guessing not much. Not really. But if you've got a system equipped
with 6GB or 8GB. at that point 64-bit makes perfect sense (and if you're the
sort of user that is loading a 4GB system so heavily
does windows 7 see all the RAM?
Jeremy
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jolyon Smith
Sent: 7 August 2009 10:27
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?
The real question though is
Ummm, the 64-bit version will. ;-)
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz]
On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter
Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 a.m.
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or
Yeah, I guess, but I have had a few people recently, who have installed
x64 on the same systems and have claimed better performance, my sister
for one. Her media centre definitely seems quicker with x64 installed
over x86, both installs were clean installs. I don't know why this is,
maybe it's the
ok, so the 32 bit wont...hmmm
Thanks all. I will work out which way I will gosoon still waiting for
the call to go pick up the partsgrrr
Jeremy
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Conor Boyd
Sent: 7 August 2009 10:42
To:
The W7 32 bit sees more than Vista 32 but nowhere near all of it. W7 64 sees
all of it, as does Vista 64
Regards
Sean Cross
CIO
Catalyst Risk Management
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter
Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 a.m.
In my case, the difference between 3 and 4 gb is huge. All my development is
in vms, so it makes a big difference in how much memory I can allocate to a vm,
and how may I can have running. I am using laptops, so much as I would like
8gb, it is non trivial to arrange. Ymmv.
For the general
The issue with 32 bit is that it can only address 4GB. Hardware uses
space from 4GB down, so depending on the hardware, you lose anywhere up
to 1GB from the available 4GB Windows limit.
64 bit still has the same issue, but from 128GB which is a Windows limit
on Vista, probably the same for
well I have server 2008 too...maybe I should put that on :-) ah the
choices :-o
Jeremy
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Dave O'Brien
Sent: 7 August 2009 10:59
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] to
No - the problem isn't a question of OS features, so much as a simple
characteristic of 32-bitness.
In your system there are (in simple terms) two kinds of memory: system
(motherboard) memory and device memory. That memory (again, hugely
simplified) becomes one big coalesced pool of RAM,
I'm using Vista 64bit with 8GB ram
works great running VMWare XP machines with 2GB ram each :D
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Jeremy Coulter jscoul...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Guys.
I am building my new machine today...YAYand sinces I am getting a
pretty res. machine (quad core with 4 gig)
Server 2003 can address up to 128GB (4GB for SBS) in the 32 bit edition or
2TB in 64 bit.
Funnily enough,Server 2008 can only address 64GB in the 32 bit version.
That must really annoy people.
Who would ever need 64GB Ram? J
Isn't it fantastic to be even having this discussion? (remembering
Any comments from those with Windows 7 whether its worth thinking of upgrading
a Sony Vaio with Vista (32 bit Home premium) to Windows 7 ??
I am encouraged by the closeness of Vista and Windows 7 - ie same drivers, and
internally Winodws 7 is actually V6.1 (compared to Vista V6.0). And the
I've been using Windows 7 RC1 for a while doing quite a bit of testing
on it. This is just a spare machine I picked up for $100. A pentium 4
2GHz with 768 meg of ram. It runs really well on that hardware. I must
admit, I'm not a new fan of the task bar but most things are quite
similar visually.
Why do you prefer Vista (apart from the task bar?)
John
I prefer vista, but the performance improvements that Win7 has almost
make it impossible to ignore (if you are currently running vista).
Delphi runs quite well on it as well. Although I haven't tried Delphi
7 (yuck :p)
cheers,
Jeremy
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM, John Birdjohnkb...@paradise.net.nz wrote:
Why do you prefer Vista (apart from the task bar?)
That is basically it. Although I will switch to Win7 for new hardware
purchases. The start menu in Win7 has a nice feature where individual
apps have their own recent
I am sure your comment on Mac vs Win could start some flame wars...
I'll start next :-)... I have a Mac Book Pro too, and much prefer it
over Windows... though have not tried Windows 7 much at all.
The One menu thing... you grow to like it... well, at least I actually
like it better now.
Hehe.. This is the Mac problem..
One thing that I still find infuriating though is that you can only
size windows by the bottom right corner... why, why, why make sizing
windows so hard???!!
They have not made it HARD.. they have made it EASY. because there is only
ONE OPTION :D
I like my MAC
I dual boot into OSX for iphone development. I much prefer windows 7. And I
hate objective c.
Regards
Sean Cross
CIO
Catalyst Risk Management
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From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jeremy North
Sent: Friday, 7
Interesting. I have to say that the desktop/window manager/taskbar changes
(I'd call them improvements but not everyone would agree...) were compelling
for me.
At first I missed Quick Launch, until I learned about Pinning both to
the bar itself and to the start menu and realised that Quick
OK its open season now that OSX has entered the comversation. And its Friday...
Here's another benchmark
http://www.tuxradar.com/content/benchmarked-ubuntu-vs-vista-vs-windows-7
Windows 7 does score tops in copying large files. not in slow files or
anything else.
btw
the first Windows 7
Faster doesn't instantly mean better, or more productive.
I've got a blog post stewing at the moment where I will be detailing
my experiences, if I get around to writing it.
XCode is an _interestingly_ architected application.
I love how apple do updates though. 230meg download to fix one
Hmmm, I think it's going a bit far to say that it cripples a system. It
doesn't kill the machine, just the current session. Reboot and normal
service is resumed.
If it irreversibly damaged the HDD that would be a different matter, but I
don't think that's the issue.
And aiui it's not a
well after the supplier providing th wrong motherboard and me having to wait
tll they hand delivered it themselves, and trying to decide what vid card to
buy, I have now build the machine and installed vista 64bit to see how it
goes for a while.
I figured I might as well try a few different things
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