Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-09 Thread Peter Hyde
Another data point: I swapped my main laptop from V32 to V64 soon after getting it in early 2008. Very happy with the result. Thought I would give some feedback on my decision. I decided to try Vista 64bit out since if it all goes wrong I still have time to install XP or whatever. Well I have

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-08 Thread Jeremy Coulter
-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: 7 August 2009 14:51 To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Hmmm, I think it's going a bit far to say that it cripples a system. It doesn't kill the machine, just the current session. Reboot

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-08 Thread David Brennan
of the difference is probably new install vs old install. David. From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 8:27 p.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Conor Boyd
Can't answer your question directly, but Windows 7 RTM is available on MSDN today I believe. So it's already out. Don't know if that makes your decision easier or not. ;-) From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy Coulter
yeah but work has the MSDN Lic. not me :-( Jeremy _ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Conor Boyd Sent: 7 August 2009 09:35 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Can't answer your

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jason Coley
I fully recommend installing Win7, I know this shouldn't be said but there are plenty of torrents for the RTM build, when you can finally purchase the RTM (or get it through other MS channels), just enter your product key. You can re-arm it when necessary (up to 120 days I think) so the RTM

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Cross
Windows 7 is out, I'm downloading it now. If your computer supports 64, then install vista 64. There is no good reason to be using Vista 32. I have been using Vista 64 for over a year, and Win 7 64 since beta. Neither has had a 64 related problem and I get the use of all my memory. Regards

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jolyon Smith
aiui if you've only got 4GB of RAM then I don't think 64-bit is going to make that much of a difference. Of course, if you have the capacity to go beyond 4GB of physical RAM and the intention to do so, then 64-bit might be worthwhile. w.r.t Window 7 - I installed the RC (build 7100) as an

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Cross
: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? I fully recommend installing Win7, I know this shouldn't be said but there are plenty of torrents for the RTM build, when you can finally purchase the RTM (or get it through other MS channels), just enter your product key. You can re-arm it when necessary (up

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy North
There is no good reason to be using Vista 32. Unless you rely on shell extensions written in Delphi. ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy Coulter
...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jason Coley Sent: 7 August 2009 09:56 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? I fully recommend installing Win7, I know this shouldn't be said but there are plenty of torrents for the RTM build, when you can finally

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Cross
...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:01 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? aiui if you've only got 4GB of RAM then I don't think 64-bit is going to make that much

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jason Coley
Well yes, because the VM has to use 32bit (doesn't it). From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Sean Cross Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:11 a.m. To: Jason Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Stick Delphi in a VM. Solves all number

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jolyon Smith
-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Sean Cross Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:12 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Vista 32 will never see all 4 gb due to mapping issues with the video card etc. Under Vista 32, I got between 3 and 3.5 gb

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy Coulter
does windows 7 see all the RAM? Jeremy _ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: 7 August 2009 10:27 To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? The real question though

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Conor Boyd
Ummm, the 64-bit version will. ;-) From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jason Coley
the driver support, I don't know. Jason From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:39 a.m. To: Jason Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? The real question though is how much benefit you actually got

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy Coulter
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Ummm, the 64-bit version will. ;-) _ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Cross
. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? does windows 7 see all the RAM? Jeremy ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Cross
: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? The real question though is how much benefit you actually got from that extra 0.5 - 1GB ? I'm guessing not much. Not really. But if you've got a system equipped with 6GB or 8GB... at that point 64-bit makes perfect sense (and if you're the sort of user

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Dave O'Brien
...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? does windows 7 see all the RAM? Jeremy From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy Coulter
[mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? does windows 7 see all the RAM? Jeremy _ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jolyon Smith
: Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29 To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? does windows 7 see all the RAM? Jeremy _ From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: 7 August 2009

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Kyley Harris
I'm using Vista 64bit with 8GB ram works great running VMWare XP machines with 2GB ram each :D On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Jeremy Coulter jscoul...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys. I am building my new machine today...YAYand sinces I am getting a pretty res. machine (quad core with 4 gig)

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen Barker
Server 2003 can address up to 128GB (4GB for SBS) in the 32 bit edition or 2TB in 64 bit. Funnily enough,Server 2008 can only address 64GB in the 32 bit version. That must really annoy people. Who would ever need 64GB Ram? J Isn't it fantastic to be even having this discussion? (remembering

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread John Bird
Any comments from those with Windows 7 whether its worth thinking of upgrading a Sony Vaio with Vista (32 bit Home premium) to Windows 7 ?? I am encouraged by the closeness of Vista and Windows 7 - ie same drivers, and internally Winodws 7 is actually V6.1 (compared to Vista V6.0). And the

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy North
I've been using Windows 7 RC1 for a while doing quite a bit of testing on it. This is just a spare machine I picked up for $100. A pentium 4 2GHz with 768 meg of ram. It runs really well on that hardware. I must admit, I'm not a new fan of the task bar but most things are quite similar visually.

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread John Bird
Why do you prefer Vista (apart from the task bar?) John I prefer vista, but the performance improvements that Win7 has almost make it impossible to ignore (if you are currently running vista). Delphi runs quite well on it as well. Although I haven't tried Delphi 7 (yuck :p) cheers, Jeremy

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy North
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM, John Birdjohnkb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Why do you prefer Vista (apart from the task bar?) That is basically it. Although I will switch to Win7 for new hardware purchases. The start menu in Win7 has a nice feature where individual apps have their own recent

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Colin Fraser
I am sure your comment on Mac vs Win could start some flame wars... I'll start next :-)... I have a Mac Book Pro too, and much prefer it over Windows... though have not tried Windows 7 much at all. The One menu thing... you grow to like it... well, at least I actually like it better now.

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Kyley Harris
Hehe.. This is the Mac problem.. One thing that I still find infuriating though is that you can only size windows by the bottom right corner... why, why, why make sizing windows so hard???!! They have not made it HARD.. they have made it EASY. because there is only ONE OPTION :D I like my MAC

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Cross
August 2009 12:45 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM, John Birdjohnkb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Why do you prefer Vista (apart from the task bar?) That is basically it. Although I will switch to Win7 for new

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jolyon Smith
- Acer machine. Everything installed and worked without a hitch). -Original Message- From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy North Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 12:25 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread John Bird
...@paradise.net.nz 03-3844527, 027 4844528 http://jbclnz.googlepages.com http://www.jbcl.co.nz - Original Message - From: Kyley Harris To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Hehe

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy North
://www.jbcl.co.nz - Original Message - From: Kyley Harris To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Hehe.. This is the Mac problem.. One thing that I still find infuriating though is that you can only

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jolyon Smith
chipset. From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of John Bird Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 13:32 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? running a CHKDSK /R on secondary HD's will eventually cripple

Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

2009-08-06 Thread Jeremy Coulter
' Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not? Hmmm, I think it's going a bit far to say that it cripples a system. It doesn't kill the machine, just the current session. Reboot and normal service is resumed. If it irreversibly damaged the HDD that would be a different matter, but I don't think