Re: [DUG]: Retrieving data from XML streams

2001-11-12 Thread Nic Wise

Get an XML Parser. There is the microsoft one, an IBM one, I think there are
a few free ones,
www.nothingbutnet.co.nz rings bells (PETER!!!), the Delphi-Jedi site - etc
etc etc. Basically, if you have D6 enterprise, you
can load it in from a string or file, and it puts it all nicely into a tree
structure for you (you need a sample or XSD/DTD first tho). I dont know how
the other ones work, but I'd guess its similar.

Nic.

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From: Chris Veale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: [DUG]: Retrieving data from XML streams


 Can anyone tell me how to retrieve data returned from an XML stream?

 We are making a http request to a MySQL database and have configured the
 system so that an XML stream is returned to the application.

 I can display this resultset fine.but want to be able to retrieve the
 data from the stream so that we can perform some number crunching on it
and
 provide other solutions for the user based on the retrieved data.

 Any ideas?

 Cheers

 Chris Veale

 Chris Veale
 HortResearch
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Re: [DUG]: Const

2001-11-11 Thread Nic Wise

and I think you can do

sName := 'something else'

in the first case and not the second.

If it was this:

Const a = 1;
Const b : integer = 2;

then a would only be a byte, where as b would be an int

N
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From: Stacey Verner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: Const


 Just a guess, but the second one probably uses shortstring, rather than
 string.

 Stacey

  -Original Message-
  From: John Christenhusz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, 12 November 2001 12:30 p.m.
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  Subject: [DUG]: Const
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  Can anybody tell me the difference between the following two
  declarations
  and why you want to use the first one. The second one seems
  to use less
  memory!
 
 
  const
 sName : string = 'This is a test';
 
 
  and
 
  const
 sName  = 'This is a test';
 
 
 
  TIA
 
  John.
 
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Re: [DUG]: Sending BDE dataset to Access Database

2001-11-01 Thread Nic Wise

ADOExpress was about $350-500 I think - dunno if we have it or can get it

Delphi 6 Pro has the ADO stuff in it tho, so an upgrade might be a better
option?

Nic.

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OK
I understand that I would have to buy the ADO components from Borland (using
D5 Pro)
And that the target machine has to have MS ADO 2.1 or greater?

Anyone have any idea of the costs of these?

Mark
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  From: Steve Galyer
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [DUG]: Sending BDE dataset to Access Database


  Hi Mark

  I have done exactly this when migrating from Paradox to Access - no
problems encountered.

  Regards
  Steve Galyer
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Hi

I apologise in advance if this question demonstrates a fundamental lack
of understanding of Delphi!

I have a potential site that has a lot of in house written reports based
on an Access database.  My app is a potential replacement for their existing
front end data capture.  It is BDE/Paradox based.

My question is:

Is it easy from within my app to output a dataset (populated through the
BDE) to an Access table (say through ADO).

That is can a single application read and write data from/to an Paradox
database and also write data to Access?

Any big fish-hooks?

Tia

Mark




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Re: [DUG]: Midas 2 and Midas 3 on the same machine.

2001-10-22 Thread Nic Wise



run 2 instanced of the socket server on different 
ports - one for D6, and one for D4. Should fix the problem I hope 
:)

N

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stacey 
  Verner 
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:37 
  AM
  Subject: [DUG]: Midas 2 and Midas 3 on 
  the same machine.
  
  We had a system 
  that was in Delphi 4 (Midas 2)
  
  App1
  App2 - Socket 
  Server (D4) - 
  Appserver1
  App3
  
  We have now 
  upgraded to Delphi 6 (Midas 3) so any new software we write is inDelphi 
  6, but untilthe next version of our main piece of software 
  isfinishedwe are still running some Delphi 4 
  Apps.
  
  So what we now 
  have is
  
  App1
  App2 
  - 
  - Appserver1 (D4)
   
  Socket Server (D6)
  App3 
  - 
  - AppServer2 (D6)
  
  
  Current if only 
  App1 and App2 (Midas 2) are used everything runs smoothly.
  If App3 (Midas 3) 
  is used then it worke well most of the time, but sometimes AppServer2 hangs so 
  that new connections just sit there waiting. No timeout. Also, but less often 
  AppServer1 hangs as well. In this case once we fix up AppServer2 (kill all 
  App3's and then Kill AppServer2) AppServer1 works again.
  
  AppServer1 and 
  Appserver2 have different GUID's but that names of the RDM's, Methods and 
  Providers are the same.
  AppServer2 is 
  essentially AppServer1 ported to Midas 3.
  AppServer1 and 2 
  both use a TDatabase to connect to an informix database. They don't use an 
  existing BDE alias but they do have the same DatabaseName.
  
  Is it OK to have 
  Midas 2 and Midas 3 App servers on the same machine?
  Do I need to 
  change more than the GUID's between versions of an 
  AppServer?
  Anything else I should know?
  
  Thanks
  
  Stacey
  
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Re: [DUG]: Multiple Socket Servers

2001-10-22 Thread Nic Wise



Um, in the properties, you can select the port 
(deft. is 211), but, if you are running it all on one machine, just use COM! its 
quicker! if you are going overa net, then use sockets. or DCOM. Or 
CORBAetc.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stacey 
  Verner 
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:56 
  PM
  Subject: [DUG]: Multiple Socket 
  Servers
  
  How do I run 
  multiple socket servers with different ports?
  
  The D4 and D6 
  socket servers seem to use the same list of ports.
  
  I assume I need a 
  command line parameter but I can't fins the info anywhere.
  
  Stacey
  
  Stacey 
  Verner 
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  Developer Fax: 
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Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML

2001-10-18 Thread Nic Wise

The unquoted value is _illegal_ in XML. You can't do it. You specify the
_type_ of the variable in the XSD (XML Schema Defn) - with our XML parser
/ wrapper, it generated interfaces for you - as you know- and manages the
types for you in there.

bottom line: no XML parser should handle this

a b=1 /

N

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Subject: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML


 Hi all

 I'm scratching my head

 NodeAttributes['Att'] := 10 sets Att=10 even tho 10 is an integer

 Does anyone know how to set an 'unquoted attribute ie Att=10

 TIA


  Regards Neven
  N.K. MacEwan B.E. EE
  Ph 649 574 0027
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Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML

2001-10-18 Thread Nic Wise

Well, yeah - but how compliant are the other parsers? the MS one and
especially the IBM one, is very compliant.

N
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From: Neven MacEwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML


 Nic

 Thanks, My XML book was a little old, 1999!
 I like the TXMLDocument and using it has certain adavantages (like the
 wizard support)
 but it would be nice if some bolted one of these 'native' delphi parsers
 onto it,
  So it didn't required the MS or IBM XML parser

 Neven

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 From: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML


  The unquoted value is _illegal_ in XML. You can't do it. You specify the
  _type_ of the variable in the XSD (XML Schema Defn) - with our XML
 parser
  / wrapper, it generated interfaces for you - as you know- and manages
the
  types for you in there.
 
  bottom line: no XML parser should handle this
 
  a b=1 /
 
  N
 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:43 AM
  Subject: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML
 
 
   Hi all
  
   I'm scratching my head
  
   NodeAttributes['Att'] := 10 sets Att=10 even tho 10 is an integer
  
   Does anyone know how to set an 'unquoted attribute ie Att=10
  
   TIA
  
  
Regards Neven
N.K. MacEwan B.E. EE
Ph 649 574 0027
Fax 649 570 2706
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 

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Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML

2001-10-18 Thread Nic Wise

Fair enough - and as someone asked yesterday, you could make it plug into
the Borland framework, if you really wanted to

N
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML


 Nic Wise asked:

  Well, yeah - but how compliant are the other parsers? the MS one and
  especially the IBM one, is very compliant.

 Well, the OpenXML native Delphi parser is so compliant that the author has
 found several bugs in the actual XML standards that he had had to get
 resolved by the commitee! And the good bit is that any problmes get a very
 fast fix and correction on Deiter's mailing list. Its an ongoing, free and
 well supported native Delphi product, which gives makes it perfect for us
 paranoid developers who want the source to every single thing we use.

 Cheers, Max.


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Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML

2001-10-18 Thread Nic Wise

You asked? I didn't recall seeing you there :( :( :(

Sorry, the last 3 days have been a bit of a haze - rather tired after doing
2 weeks of back-to-back training, plus having my laptop nicked, then doing
the road show etc etc. sorry :( Hence why I'm taking today off :)

Nic.


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From: Neven MacEwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML


 Nic

 Have I been reduced to 'someone' or are you having a bad day

 Neven

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 From: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML


  Fair enough - and as someone asked yesterday, you could make it plug
into
  the Borland framework, if you really wanted to
 
  N
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  From: Max Nilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:28 PM
  Subject: RE: [DUG]: Setting Attributes in XML
 
 
   Nic Wise asked:
  
Well, yeah - but how compliant are the other parsers? the MS one and
especially the IBM one, is very compliant.
  
   Well, the OpenXML native Delphi parser is so compliant that the author
 has
   found several bugs in the actual XML standards that he had had to get
   resolved by the commitee! And the good bit is that any problmes get a
 very
   fast fix and correction on Deiter's mailing list. Its an ongoing, free
 and
   well supported native Delphi product, which gives makes it perfect for
 us
   paranoid developers who want the source to every single thing we use.
  
   Cheers, Max.
  
  
 

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[DUG]: RAD seminars start times

2001-10-17 Thread Nic Wise

 Sorry - just got back from Wellington and Christchurch - 8:30 rego, 9am
 start, and we have been finishing about 4-4:30 so far

 lunch at 12:30 :) break at about 10:30 and 3-3:30 or so.

 N
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 8:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [DUG]: Borland RAD Seminars - Ak, Wgtn, ChCh


  At 04:59 pm 02.10.01, you wrote:
  I'll try and fill you in tommorow - doing training today, so I'm rather
  flatout. Bottom line is, its Richard and my show, so its mostly going
to
 be
  more technical and less marketing driven,
 
  Can we have a starting time for this please? I'm heading up tomorrow
  afternoon so will need to plan a bit. Also, what time does it finish?
 
  Thanks
 
  Steve
 

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Re: [DUG]: Pascal / Delphi for Mac ????

2001-10-09 Thread Nic Wise

Nope, its just that OSX is the only version with a decient JVM for JDK 1.2
or better - OS9 I think had a JDK1.1.8, which is way lower than that JB
needs.

N
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Subject: RE: [DUG]: Pascal / Delphi for Mac 


 The only this with JBuilder is that is has been created specifically for
Max
 OS X only I think

 Eion McIntosh

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  Subject: RE: [DUG]:  Pascal / Delphi for Mac 
 
  Its not pascal, but maybe (Java || JBuilder) is an option?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: vss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 2:52 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
  Subject: RE: [DUG]: Pascal / Delphi for Mac 
 
 
  Well we have Virtual PC for the Mac's, BUT its quite exspensive..like
  about $500 I thinkwe need it for about 55 machinesso its not the
  BEST alternative.
 
  Jeremy Coulter
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ross Levis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:37:02 +1300
  Subject: RE: [DUG]:  Pascal / Delphi for Mac 
 
   Maybe Kylix would work under Mac Linux.
  
   Ross.
  
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HI. Does anyone know of a Delphi type app. for the Mac?
   
Thanks, Jeremy Coulter
   
   
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Re: [DUG]: Treeview with checkboxes

2001-10-07 Thread Nic Wise

Jeremy,

I think Raize does: www.raize.com

N

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Subject: RE: [DUG]: Treeview with checkboxes


 You probably already know this but:
 You can use the treeview that comes with delphi.
 Just set the state image to a bitmap that looks like a checked or
unchecked
 box.

 a REALLY basic implementation might be:

if   treeview1.Selected.StateIndex = 2 then
 treeview1.Selected.StateIndex := 1
else
 treeview1.Selected.StateIndex := 2;

 where 1 and 2 refer to the checked and unchecked images

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 Subject: [DUG]: Treeview with checkboxes


 Hi. Does anyone know of any treeview controls that can had checkboxes as
 well as images ?

 Thanks, Jeremy Coulter


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Re: [DUG]: [Q] MIDAS (Socket Connection), BDE, Threads

2001-10-07 Thread Nic Wise

yes, you do need a sepetate TSession per thread - each database usually
shares a single one, hence the problem.

N
- Original Message -
From: Donovan J. Edye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: [Q] MIDAS (Socket Connection), BDE, Threads


 R,

 Sorry. Part II. Is a TSession still necessary even though the thread and
 the application have their own TDatabase components and inherently their
 own Session?

 At 15:50 08/10/2001 +1300, you wrote:
 I have no idea about how MIDAS works but you definately need to use a
 seperate session with each thread when working with DBase etc.  As to BDE
 crashes, me too!  Any app that crashes the BDE will crash any other app
 using the BDE in my experiance.
 
 Robert Martin
 Software Engineer
 Wild Software Ltd
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Donovan J. Edye
 To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Multiple recipients of list delphi
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 2:49 PM
 Subject: [DUG]: [Q] MIDAS (Socket Connection), BDE, Threads
 
 G'Day All,
 
 I have the following:
 
 - A component TCricketLiveScoringClient that uses a MIDAS socket
 connection to make and handle a connection to a MIDAS server
 - The above component uses a TTXProcessThread to monitor changes in a
 local BDE table
 - When a change is detected by the it uses
 TCricketLiveScoringClient.ProcessTX() to send the transaction to the
 MIDAS server
 
 However what I am finding is that if an exception is raised and the
 thread terminated and the connection to the MIDAS server closed that the
 application dies horribly with access violation(s), runtime error 216
 etc. So my questions are these:
 
 - The thread uses its own TDatabase connection (and not the TDatabase
 connection of the application that contains the component). But does it
 require a TSession component as well? Are there issues here to do with
 the BDE/Threading?
 - It appears to me that the AppServer property of the TSocketConnection
 disappears out from under me. However no amount of:
 
if not ((VarIsNull(FSocketConnection.AppServer)) AND (varEmpty =
  VarType(FSocketConnection.AppServer)) AND
   (varNull = VarType(FSocketConnection.AppServer))) then
 seems to protect me from getting the access violation.
 
 Can anybody provide me with some pointers etc.? Below find the necessary
 code, but if you need anything else then please ask. I am at a loss as
to
 how to solve this. Environment is D5.01 Enterprise.
 
 TIA
 
 
 type
 TNewTXDataEvent = procedure(ATXID : integer; ATXPayload : string;
  TotalTXs : integer;
var EventCompleted : boolean; var EventCompletedSuccessfully :
  boolean) of object;
 
 TTXProcessThread = class(TThread)
 private
FDatabase : TDataBase;
FEventCompleted : boolean;
FEventCompletedSuccessfully : boolean;
FLastTxIDProcessed : integer;
//FSession : TSession;
FTXTable : TTable;
FNewTXDataEvent : TNewTXDataEvent;
 protected
procedure Execute; override;
procedure FireCallBackEvent;
 public
constructor Create(CreateSuspended : Boolean; ADBPath : string;
   AStartTXID : integer; ANewTXData : TNewTXDataEvent);
destructor Destroy; override;
 end;
 
 type
 TCricketLiveScoringClient = class(TCustomPanel)
 private
FActive : boolean;
FCricketAppGUID : string;
FGlobalMatchCode : string;
FLastTXProcessed : integer;
FSocketConnection : TSocketConnection;
FStatusPanel : TPanel;
FTXPanel : TPanel;
FMessages : TStringList;
FTXProcessingThread : TTXProcessThread;
FClientIP : string;
FDBPath : string;
FLoggedIn : boolean;
FMidasServerPort : SmallInt;
FMidasServerAddress : string;
procedure AddMessage(AMsg : string);
procedure CustomOnDblClick(Sender : TObject);
function Get_Local_IPAddr : string;
procedure HandleExceptionError(AProcName, AErr, ADelphiError :
  string);
function Login : boolean;
function Logout : boolean;
procedure NewDataEvent(ATXID : integer; ATXPayload : string;
  TotalTXs : integer;
   var EventCompleted : boolean; var EventCompletedSuccessfully :
  boolean);
function ProcessTX(AGlobalMatchCode : string; ATXID : Integer;
   const ATXPayload : string; var ANextTXID : Integer;
   var ASQLServerErrroCode : integer; var ASQLServerErrorDesc :
  string) : WordBool;
procedure SetActive(const Value : boolean);
procedure SetGlobalMatchCode(const Value : string);
procedure SetMidasServerAddress(const Value : string);
procedure SetMidasServerPort(const Value : SmallInt);
 protected
 
 public
constructor Create(AOwner : TComponent); override;
destructor Destroy; override;
 published
property Active : 

Re: [DUG]: Borland RAD Seminars - Ak, Wgtn, ChCh

2001-10-03 Thread Nic Wise

Well, skycity has a carpark if your bike is of the motor variety, if its of
the push variety, email me off the list - should be able to accomodate you,
being I dont like keeping my mountain bike on the back of the car when its
in the carpark. :)

Nic.

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From: Steve Peacocke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Borland RAD Seminars - Ak, Wgtn, ChCh


 OK Nic, I've booked in, it'll allow me to catch up with you and Richard if
 nothing else. Now I've gotta find out where I can park my bike for the day
 so I'll find it still there when I go to ride home again that night.

 Steve

 At 03:59 pm 02.10.01, you wrote:
 People,
 
 I'll try and fill you in tommorow - doing training today, so I'm rather
 flatout. Bottom line is, its Richard and my show, so its mostly going to
be
 more technical and less marketing driven, BUT: we are a commercial entity
 with budgets to meet, so the end purpose is to sell more Delphi 6
 enterprise.
 
 The plan - subject to change, natch - is to take an existing (UGLY as
hell)
 paradox app, port it to IB, port that (well, some of it) to DataSNAP, add
a
 web layer (for entry of data), and add a SOAP interface (WebServices) for
 rich gui data entry over the net. Richard is doing the talking (ie, what
the
 technology is, how it related to other things, why its cool, why you
wanna
 use it) and I'm doing the demo's in between.
 
 As I said, subject to change, but thats the idea at the moment. Think
stuff
 like Richard's Java tut's this and last year, but for Delphi 6
Enterprise.
 
 Nic.

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Re: [DUG]: Missing unit ??

2001-10-01 Thread Nic Wise

have a look thru the archives - this one has been done a few times before :)

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Nic.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:53 AM
Subject: [DUG]: Missing unit ??


 HI all.
 I have been converting some components I have over to Delphi 6.
 I have had to change DsgnInf to Designinf and include DesignEditors.
 This is all fine, BUT when I compile, I get the error File Not Found
 Proxies.DCU
 I have searched my Delphi dir and I can not find the file it mentions.
 I am running D6 Enterprise..can anyone shed some light on this problem
?


 Thanks, Jeremy Coulter



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Re: [DUG]: Borland RAD Seminars - Ak, Wgtn, ChCh

2001-10-01 Thread Nic Wise

People,

I'll try and fill you in tommorow - doing training today, so I'm rather
flatout. Bottom line is, its Richard and my show, so its mostly going to be
more technical and less marketing driven, BUT: we are a commercial entity
with budgets to meet, so the end purpose is to sell more Delphi 6
enterprise.

The plan - subject to change, natch - is to take an existing (UGLY as hell)
paradox app, port it to IB, port that (well, some of it) to DataSNAP, add a
web layer (for entry of data), and add a SOAP interface (WebServices) for
rich gui data entry over the net. Richard is doing the talking (ie, what the
technology is, how it related to other things, why its cool, why you wanna
use it) and I'm doing the demo's in between.

As I said, subject to change, but thats the idea at the moment. Think stuff
like Richard's Java tut's this and last year, but for Delphi 6 Enterprise.

Nic.

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From: David Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Borland RAD Seminars - Ak, Wgtn, ChCh


 I thought this was a very good question but there doesn't seem to have
been
 an answer. I'm also undecided about going and would like more information
on
 who the seminar is targetted at. From my point of view (like Steve), the
 more technical and the less sales oriented the better.

 Is anyone from/related to Borland able to fill us in?

 David Brennan.
 DB Solutions Ltd.

  -- Original Message --
  From: Gary Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Its that time of year again, and these one day seminars are on the
road.
 A
  steal at $99.
 
  Gidday Gary,
 
  Seeing as it's a long way to go for me plus a day off work (no income)
 plus the cost - can you please tell me the difference between this Seminar
 and a Captured Sales Pitch.
 
  Reading the blurb on your letter, it does really say Sales Pitch to
me.
 As a committed long time Delphi developer, whould I get anything at all
out
 of this day?
 
  For what would essentially cost me around $700 (petrol, 1 day lost
 contract, entry fee), what would I come away with?
 
  Or is this not really intended for the likes of me?
 
  Steve


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Re: [DUG]: String Encryption routine

2001-09-25 Thread Nic Wise

Does it need to be 2 way, or 1 way? MD5 is very good for one-way.

:)

N
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From: Ross Levis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: [DUG]: String Encryption routine


 Firstly, thanks to those who helped me find a Help authoring tool.

 I've searched the Net but not found some simple Delphi source to encrypt a
 string (based on a given key value).  I've only found large component sets
 which are an overkill.

 I don't need strong encrytion but just something to deter most people from
 working it out.
 Anyone have any suggestions.  Maybe I could create something myself but
I've
 not had any experience in this area.

 Cheers,
 Ross.
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[DUG]: Microsoft does JDBC - officially. in sql2000

2001-09-25 Thread Nic Wise

 About time, really :)

Hi,
 
Microsoft allows Java programs to connect to SQL Server 2000.
 
   http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7298466.html
 
 
Test JDBC Driver is available as a free.
 
 
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/Press/2001/Sep01/09-25MerantPR.asp


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Re: [DUG]: String Encryption routine

2001-09-25 Thread Nic Wise

See Peter's post - its a 1 way hash, very useful for password (ie, you
encrypt it, and compare only the encrypted states). I think its part of the
Indy component set, from memory, but I'm not sure. Its standard, and
implemented in lots of languages - Delphi and Java for sure

N
- Original Message -
From: Ross Levis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: String Encryption routine


 Nic Wise wrote:
  Does it need to be 2 way, or 1 way? MD5 is very good for one-way.

 Well I was thinking 2-way but I should be able to use 1-way.  What or
where
 is MD5?

 Cheers,
 Ross.
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Re: [DUG]: String Encryption routine

2001-09-25 Thread Nic Wise

Um, unless I'm mistaken, this is a pretty basic cypher - are you after
encrypting something that NEEDS to stay crypted, or just scrambling
something so a luser can't get at it? if its the latter, this should be
fine, but a cryptographer work his salt should be able to go thru this in
about 2 seconds flat. Something like MD5 or RC4 are _proven_ secure by
years of testing etc.

Another thing to look at could be Bill Raike's library - not sure of the
URL, but's he's over here in NZ somewhere :)

Nic.

- Original Message -
From: Ross Levis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: String Encryption routine


 Hi Phil

 This looks useful.  Can I assume it decrypts as well by passing the
Encrypt
 param as False?

 Cheers,
 Ross.

 Phil Scadden wrote:
  here is my favourite, very simple string to hex gobbledegooker.
 
  Function Encrypt (Src:String; Key:String; Encrypt : Boolean):string;
  var
 idx :integer;
 KeyLen  :Integer;
 KeyPos  :Integer;
 offset  :Integer;
 dest:string;
 SrcPos  :Integer;
 SrcAsc  :Integer;
 TmpSrcAsc   :Integer;
 Range   :Integer;
 
  begin
   KeyLen:=Length(Key);
   if KeyLen = 0 then key:='235jhsf9msf;#@*#';
   KeyPos:=0;
   SrcAsc:=0;
   Range:=256;
   if Encrypt then
   begin
Randomize;
offset:=Random(Range);
dest:=format('%1.2x',[offset]);
for SrcPos := 1 to Length(Src) do
begin
 SrcAsc:=(Ord(Src[SrcPos]) + offset) MOD 255;
 if KeyPos  KeyLen then KeyPos:= KeyPos + 1
  else KeyPos:=1;
 SrcAsc:= SrcAsc xor Ord(Key[KeyPos]);
 dest:=dest + format('%1.2x',[SrcAsc]);
 offset:=SrcAsc;
end;
   end
   else
   begin
offset:=StrToInt('$'+ copy(src,1,2));
SrcPos:=3;
repeat
  SrcAsc:=StrToInt('$'+ copy(src,SrcPos,2));
  if KeyPos  KeyLen Then KeyPos := KeyPos + 1
  else KeyPos := 1;
  TmpSrcAsc := SrcAsc xor Ord(Key[KeyPos]);
  if TmpSrcAsc = offset then
   TmpSrcAsc := 255 + TmpSrcAsc - offset
  else
   TmpSrcAsc := TmpSrcAsc - offset;
  dest := dest + chr(TmpSrcAsc);
  offset:=srcAsc;
  SrcPos:=SrcPos + 2;
until SrcPos = Length(Src);
   end;
   Result:=Dest;
  end;
 
  --
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  41 Bell Rd South, PO Box 30368, Lower Hutt, New Zealand
  Ph +64 4 5704821, fax +64 4 5704603
 
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Re: [DUG]: Turning on/off another computer

2001-09-23 Thread Nic Wise

BackOrafice?

:)

Seriously, why not write a socket server, and do it that way. Then, total
control! (even via telnet, if you want :) )

N
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:07 PM
Subject: [DUG]: Turning on/off another computer


 Hi

 i have examples of how to shutdown and reboot a
 computer, is there a way i can do the same with
 another computer on the same network (any Win
 version).

 thnks
 moises

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Re: [DUG]: Scanning and Barcode Reading recommendations?

2001-09-18 Thread Nic Wise

wouldn't a scanner (call it via TWAIN?) and a barcode reader (using a
keyboard block) work? 2 pieces of hardware, but the cost of the hardware
should be less than your time to write a barcode recognition system.

I think Gary has done something like this dude, wanna comment?

Nic.

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Subject: [DUG]: Scanning and Barcode Reading recommendations?


 Hi all,

 We are looking at developing an in-house application (unless we can find
 one already made that will help us to the job) that scans a few pages of
 documentation in with a bar code is on the first page...

 The scanned pages will be 'attached' to a DB record...

 Just wondering if anyone could recommend any good scanning components
 (including barcode recognition) or recommend a program that could do
 something similar (eg store the scanned images in a directory named via
 the barcode).

 We are looking at the ImageLib library, Lead Tools library, and a couple
 of other less known libraries...

 Just wondering if anyone has any experience with these or other
 libraries...

 Any info appreciated.

 Regards
 Colin


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[DUG]: test - ignore

2001-09-16 Thread Nic Wise

not even the usual smart comments, please :)
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: Re: [DUG]: DesignEditors and Proxies

2001-09-10 Thread Nic Wise

 you need to include one of the .dcp or .bpl files in your project to fix
 this - I dont have Delphi on this machine (I'm at home...), so I can't
tell
 you which one. but have a look around on the newsgroups, or websites,
 and there is a fix for it - I'll post something tommorow if you dont find
 it.

 I think its something like designide.dcp or similar - install it in the
same
 place as you would a package.

 Nic.

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 From: Ian Fear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:15 PM
 Subject: [DUG]: DesignEditors and Proxies


  Hi All
  When trying to convert one of my D4 components to D6 ran into a problem
  the unit used TPropertyEditors which I duly found in the unit
 DesignEditors.
  Added the Path --- source\toolsApi to the library path but  Now I get a
 message
  can find Proxies.dcu.
  This is in the Uses list of DesignEditors.pas but there is no sign of a
 proxies unit in D6
  stuff how ever there is in D4 and D5 doesn't seem Quit Right ??
 
  Any Suggestions solutions greatly Appreciated
  Regards Ian
 
 
  Ian Fear
  Fear Consulting Ltd
  1427 Te Kopia Rd
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Re: [DUG]: dbExpress and MS SQL

2001-09-09 Thread Nic Wise

Rumours: yes. Actual products: No.

There is an ADO one around -
http://islamov.com/dbexpress/


No idea how much / how good but there is a download available.



N

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Subject: [DUG]: dbExpress and MS SQL


 Hi All

 Has anyone heard any rumour et al about MS SQL and dbExpress?
 I've seen a dbExpress/ODBC bridge but it's horrible expensive (ie not
free)

  Regards Neven
  N.K. MacEwan B.E. EE
  Ph 649 574 0027
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Re: [DUG]: Buying Delphi

2001-09-06 Thread Nic Wise

How about:

Borland New Zealand Ltd
ph: 09-3600231
fax: 09-3600384

ask for Alice or Olivia.

We dont have distributors anymore - we split from Sealcorp last year, and
they have since gone under.

:)

Nic.

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Subject: [DUG]: Buying Delphi


 It's been a while (Delphi 4 infact) and a different company.

 Can anyone tell me who the NZ distributor for Delphi is? Contact details
 etc?

 Thanks,

 Phil.

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Re: [DUG]: Midas performance and maybe BDE Threading

2001-09-06 Thread Nic Wise


Incase Chris is busy, I'll jump in, as I think I know the project he's
talking about

 1stly.  Did the system originally use a file based DB like Paradox.  If
the answer
 is yes, is the new app using TTables or TQueries.  This is the first
bottleneck
 and relates to C/S developement in general.

Yes, it was originally Paradox via tables and a few queries. Its now IB via
BDE and 99.9% of them
are TQueries with associated TUpdateSQL's. Some work has been done on
getting it to send just the minumal amount of data back.

 There are several other things that can cause this, and they are not
necessarily
 related to MIDAS. (all off the top of my head)

The developer has, AFAIK, been testing the performance of the layers, and
the MIDAS bit is not the problem. AFAIK. I may be wrong here, as I've not
talked to him for a while.

 Are they retrieving some records and then doing lookups for other
information
 on the records retrieved, ie have a db grid of all the records in one
table
 with a lookup field (excellent on file based DB's but on C/S not good)

There are a few grids involved (didn't change the UI and rewrite it when the
oppertunity was there :( ) - they have
some lookups (ALL this is from memory - which is about a year old, too!),
but IIRC, there is caching of the lookup tables in CDS's.

 Have they only got one BDE connection that all the RDM's share.  Each RDM
should
 have it's own TDatabase and TSession (unless the programmer has
implemented
 some sort of connection pool).

each RDM has a connection / session etc.

 Which MIDAS connection method are they using Sockets, DCOM, WebConnection?
 Sockets is the fastest.  If sockets then check that the SCKTSVR has the
resolve
 host names set off.

Sockets. - I dont think it has resolve hostname turned off tho.

 Are the Remote Data Modules (RDM) in the server all opened at the start or
opened
 as required.  If opened as required are the RDM's broken into logical
smaller
 groups ie Order RDM containing the Order header and order details etc.

RDM's are opened as required. There are 2 RDM's per client - one for the
app, and one for the reports. the app one is _HUGE_. That might be the
problem possibly.

 The BDE will suffer under MIDAS if there is a TDatabase and TSession per
RDM
 if there are likely to be more than 60 open at a time (we actually found
that
 this was lower like around 25) and will lock clients.  I would strongly
recommend

It appears to lock at about 5 clients, I think. Basically, not even close to
25, let alone 60.

 that IBX or IBO is used to avoid the BDE for MIDAS, unless they want to
use
 the SharedConnection methods in the RDMs.

Hmmm, didn't look at shared connection - I'll have a look There is
currently only 2 conections from each client back to the server (ie, one for
the main one, and one for the reports when its loaded)

  I would suggest that you look at http://www.distribucon.com for other
tips relating
 to MIDAS.  The Shared Connection information can be found there.

Cheers.

 IBX updates are available from
http://codecentral.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/author?authorid=102


 IBO is at http://www.ibobjects.com/

IBX and IBO were not options at the time, as it may be need to be ported to
Oracle at a later date :( Hence why the BDE (not my first choice, either - I
was gunning for IBX at the time)


Thanks for the info.

Nic

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Re: Re: [DUG]: Midas performance and maybe BDE Threading

2001-09-06 Thread Nic Wise

 I wonder if the Midas caching of the master dataset is forcing full
 population of all the child datasets.

Unless Campbell has changed it, yes, it does :)

 One of the datasets also has a couple of blob fields so that could also be
 causing overwork.

Not to the degree that this is, AFAIK.

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Re: [DUG]: Accessing mulltiple Interbase databases

2001-09-02 Thread Nic Wise

Mike,

are you doing this thru something BDE-specific? or is it going direct to
interbase?

I'm not sure if IB support hetrogenious use of databases (I thought I saw
reference in the help file once, but I can't find it anymore), but the BDE
will do it, pretty much as you showed below. I doubt its going to be
quick tho

If its just a once off thing, try using the datapump :)

Nic.

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Subject: [DUG]: Accessing mulltiple Interbase databases


 I have two Interbase databases - same structure.

 I want to append records from a table in one database into the other.

 I write -

  insert into mytable select * from :otherdb:mytable

 but the SQL will  not run as it doesn't seem to allow the alias definition
 in the prefix.

 I've tried batch moves - they don't work either.

 How can I append records across Interbase databases?

 TIA
 Mike


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Re: [DUG]: Accessing mulltiple Interbase databases

2001-09-02 Thread Nic Wise

Hadn't thought of that - I've tried it - it's working for some tables and
not for others. Can't see why some aren't working -
columns map corrrectly.


might be a FK conflict or something - whats the structure / constraints etc
on the table?

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Re: [DUG]: xfer between PCs

2001-08-28 Thread Nic Wise

Sorry, been on holiday

Yes we can do that, I guess - we dont have a protocol for it tho, but I can
find you a key :)

Call me at work tomorrow AM - 09-3600231

N

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Subject: RE: [DUG]: xfer between PCs


 Hi Neven,

 My guess would be that if you have a legit proof of purchase, I am sure
 that the Borland guys would help you out.

 Just a guess... I would give them a ring...

 Regards
 Colin

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 Sent: Monday, 27 August 2001 11:14 a.m.
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 Subject: [DUG]: xfer between PCs


 Hi all

 This is not a piracy question but a legit situation

 I'm setting up my new PC (Athlon 1333, 640Mb Ram) but in xfering
 software I have found
 that someone in labelling all our CD's has unfortunately xferred my D5
 CD into a Jewel Case
 and the rego's gone west, Can I transfer D5 from 1 PC to another without
 reinstalling?

 TIA

 Neven





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[DUG]: Intermediate / Advanced Delphi developers wanted

2001-08-03 Thread Nic Wise

[ed's note: DONT reply to me or the list - I'm just relaying the info. XSol
are located
 in Parnell Road in Auckland.]


Exciting New Development for Senior/Intermediate Software Developers


What XSol Offers


Like many start up companies we pay well and have a stock option scheme to
qualifying contributors along with the usual employee benefits. What makes
XSol unique is the challenge factor. We offer you the opportunity to develop
new skills and a new paradigm in our target enterprise systems market.

Almost as important we recognise that talented people are special and
deserve to be treated as individuals. We offer flexibility in working hours,
dress code and remuneration packages.

So Who is XSol
--

XSol is a well-funded RD Software Company focused on creating the next
generation of ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) software and associated
tools.

Our quest, Same Today, Different Tomorrow is XSol's point of difference.

We are about real time solutions. Not just in the use of our products but
also in the speed of our customers ERP development and implementation.

XSol's customers will be able to implement our ERP solutions with
spreadsheet like ease.

Visual tools will enable our customers to change their system just as they
need it to be, no programming, no compromise, no delays.

Caught the vision? Then read on.

We Seek
---

Extremely bright developers who like to work in a think tank like
environment. We need the best of the best as the complexity and the lateral
thinking involved in this product are extremely challenging even to
experienced developers.

So if you like to be challenged and you like working with and in a team of
equally talented individuals that spark off each other then XSol could be
your new home.

Skills
--

We are currently doing proof of concept development using Delphi and XML
using Object Oriented analysis and design. Significant experience in these
areas is obviously desirable.

The software we are developing is able to interact with a range of
databases, with emphasis on an e-commerce environment; so knowledge of a
range of other environments and tools is also desirable. Specific areas of
interest are C++, Java, relational databases, sound modelling skills, UML,
GUI and Web development. Mapping database layer or other tool experience is
useful.

Interested?
---

For more information about us and to make an application, please visit our
web site at www.xsol.com. We would like you to complete the attached skills
matrix (under the Employment menu) and to attach your CV.

==




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Re: [DUG]: Kylix problems

2001-07-30 Thread Nic Wise

kylixpath is a script - if you use the dot infront, it runs it under the
context of the current shell - basically, the same as typing in the commands
that are in the file onto the command line, unlike if you execute a shell
script, then it gets its own copy of the shell, and most path etc changes
are not held by the parent shell - unless you use the likes of export

or something like that :)

comeone Mark, you of all people should know that :)

N
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Why the dot?  I can't quite see what its purpose here is...

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 In your case run the command
   . /root/kylix/bin/kylixpath
 (note the dot! before /root/.)



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Re: [DUG]: Kylix problems

2001-07-30 Thread Nic Wise

Very true, but this is

dotspacepathofscript

eg

. /root/whatever.sh

very handy thing to use tho :)

N
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*grin* actually, that was one I didn't.  Seems a somewhat stupid way to do
it thou, as you often use . as part of the path, to run a script or
something in the current directory

$ ./setup.sh

or somesuch.

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix OE and database

2001-07-30 Thread Nic Wise

OE is basically standard version - and like Delphi standard, there are NO
database components.

Nothing wrong with your install - thats how its ment to be.

Nic
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 Testing Kylix OE at present and after install and running it I noticed
 there was no Database components .

 Is it Normal ? is there any available ? or Is it my Install which went
 completely wrong ?

 Bernard


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[DUG]: Technical FAQ for new Linux users

2001-07-28 Thread Nic Wise

From Slashdot - might be handy for people who are trying Kylix out, and
coming from a windows background

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/07/28/2158211.shtml

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-faq/?t=gr

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix now Free for Open Source Projects

2001-07-26 Thread Nic Wise

Well, it _is_ true, I'm definatly NOT a lawyer :) Tho I did take a
first-year law paper at uni, and enjoyed it quite a bit (mostly 'cos the
lecturer was REALLY cool and made it really interesting)

N
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Subject: Re: [DUG]: Kylix now Free for Open Source Projects


 Nic

 I've never met anyone brave enough to use IANAL - good for you :-)

 Neven

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 Subject: Re: [DUG]: Kylix now Free for Open Source Projects


   Even more importan question... if Kylix uses any GPLed code, then
 doesn't
   the GPL require it to be open-source too?  Just a thought :
 
  yes it does, and no, AFAIK, we dont. But IANAL.
 
  N
 

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix now Free for Open Source Projects

2001-07-26 Thread Nic Wise

 to pay for the no-nonsense licence.   Fortunately all the Kylix
 components are available in either licence (right?) so switching
 will be painless at least with respect to the Borland code
 in your app.


Nope, just the ones in the OE. The ones in the other versions (that are not
in the OE) are not under GPL.

N

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix now Free for Open Source Projects

2001-07-25 Thread Nic Wise

WOW! I wounder if the slashdot crowd have realised THAT one

Somehow I think they might have missed it.

N
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Subject: Re: [DUG]: Kylix now Free for Open Source Projects


  It appears that any Kylix OE app opens a wee dialog box that
  displays this
  was written with OE, it must be GPL! (i've only seen a screen shot
  so
  far),  but to me that sounds $(*#(*$ annoying and bad on Borlands
  part...

 unfortunately it's required by the GPL 2(c):

  c) If the modified program normally reads commands
  interactively when run, you must cause it, when
  started running for such interactive use
  in the most ordinary way, to print or display an
  announcement including an appropriate copyright
  notice and a notice that there is no
  warranty (or else, saying that you provide a
  warranty) and that users may redistribute the
  program under these conditions, and telling the
  user how to view a copy of this License.
  (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive
  but does not normally print such an announcement,
  your work based on the Program is not required to
  print an announcement.)

 GPL is pretty restrictive.There are certainly other more friendly
 OSS choices - it does seem strange Borland wouldn't have chosen
 one of them.


 -ns














 
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Re: [DUG]: Alternative list hosting?

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise


 Currently my system allows you to get a web based 'digest' of the last
 month, last week, or todays list mail.  I would add a search, but
currently
 I'm the only one using it...

if you do, Peter, look at Lucene (www.lucene.com) - its a VERY cool
full-text-index package for Java.



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Re: [DUG]: Alternative list hosting? - maybe the final word for a while

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

Hi people,

OK, I've looked thru this, and I think I may know of a solution, but I need
a little time (and approval from Annie and Richard) to do it (to say I'm
busy at the moment is a little bit of an understatement - but you all know
THAT one).

I just need to check if ezmlm will do what we want, and if so, I'll set it
up on the Linux server we have in the office. The address may change
([EMAIL PROTECTED] for example) but other than that it would be the
same.

Get back to you in a week or so.

Nic.

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Subject: [DUG]: Alternative list hosting?


   There were some other issues raised like archives, address munging,
   digest mode, multiple address subscription and so on. YG happens to
   offer all
  these
   features.
 
  Then why dont we move over to YG then?

 Have you read their privacy policy? At least they tell me about all
 their privacy invasion practices in detail, but that doesn't make me
 any more comfortable about using their services. And IIRC you need to
 be a member of Yahoo (and party to their TOS) to subscribe to their
 groups. And I hate ads, even tiny little text ones at the bottom of
 emails.

 Having said that, if the list moved there, I'd still sign up, and I
 can see the point of webarchives for people who don't just keep a
 mail-folder with 6000+ archived messages in it like I do, and better
 anti-virus checking for people who use Outlook. Still, I suspect
 there's a better solution than YG to be found, and personally I'm
 happy enough with the status quo.

 Just my US$0.0085

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Re: [DUG]: MIDAS Primer....

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise



Donovan,

IMO and IME, dont treat it as a TTable replacement 
- its so much more than that, and you can do effective distributed systems with 
it very easily. Make sure you know that you call methods on the appserver (not 
just connect to tables) and such. Basically, throw your old knowledge out and 
learn midas with a semi-clean slate.

Just IMO.

Nic.

  - Original Message - 
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  Edye 
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:55 
  AM
  Subject: [DUG]: MIDAS Primer
  G'Day,I am about to dive into my first MIDAS project 
  and was wondering if there were any on-line resources that people could point 
  me at?TIA
  -- 
  Donovan 
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Re: [DUG]: D6 installation

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

Works for me. Usual rules apply - install the latest BDE AFTER installing
the last version, eg if you install 6, then 5, then 4, install BDE5.11 (
whats the latest?) after you install 4.

you may wanna do a reg install of your prefered one after, too, to update
the .dfm and .pas associations.

Nic.

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Subject: [DUG]: D6 installation


 Having not installed two Delphi's on the same machine before ... Is it
safe
 to install D6 to directory ..\.Borland\D6\... given I have D5 in
 ...\Borland\D5\...?

 Thanks

 Russell Belding


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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

Its possible Sanctuary is down (the registration server). You DO need to be
online to do it tho. All I can recommend is, try, try again :) Failing that,
call Olivia on 09-3600231 and she shoudl be able to atleast provide some way
for you to get your rego number via the phone/fax/email, tho I'm pretty sure
she can't do it on the spot - yet.

You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
bugged everytime D6 starts up :(

Nic.
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Subject: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


 Hi

 We have loaded D6 Pro this morning and have been trying to register it. We
 are using our Borland Community identity and
 we are getting a Connection Failed when the registration is trying to
 connection to the Registration Server.

 As anyone had this and know how to get around it?

 Thanks
 Eion McIntosh
 PPCS Ltd
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

I dont know. All I know is, our lawyers threw up their hands and said you
can't do that - if someone buys a product, they have to be able to use it,
regardless. Maybe there's a class action suit there against MS :)

If you dont have net access, you can call us (or the 0800# I think - its on
the dialog), give us the number it generates, and we give you back a number
(std challange response) and all is well.

N
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If that would be illegal, how come MS can do it with their activation
stuff?

And what happens if you don't have net access?  (or, email only access).

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 You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
 bugged everytime D6 starts up :(



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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

yes, you get bugged about it around 1x per week, I think. JBuilder bugs you
every time you load it.

AFAIK, it doesn't grab your credit card, molest your cat, or any of the
other things that the MS one is supposed to do - it just takes the key, and
some form of finger print of your machine (maybe, I'm not sure about that
even) and says add one to the install count for this key - if it hits 3,
we get notified, I _think_ (not a lot of info has come out on it yet).

then I guess we call you and ask you why you've installed 1 copy of d6
enterprise on 42 machines :)

I would imagine that, to get update s(eg, delphi 6.01 :) ) you need to be
registered. ;-) Big enough carrot for you?

If anyone _is_ paranoid enough about it, I'll see what I can extract from
the people in the US, but seriously, I dont think its an invasion of your
privacy at all - just a way for us to monitor installs of the product
(kinda) so piracy can be kept to a minimum, without using something like
Macrovision SoftDisc (which was going to be used, until it was found to fail
on around 50-60% of beta testers machines!).

N
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Subject: RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


 Are you or do you get a box when D6 starts up about registering or not
being
 registered?
 They only thing that show ups in Unregistered on the splash screen and it
 goes staight in with no other intervention required

 Eion

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  You are not required to register (this would be illegal), but you do get
  bugged everytime D6 starts up :(
 
  Nic.
 
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

Exactly. If you had to install Delphi 6 42 (or even 5) times, without
reinstalling Windows, THEN I wanna know about it. Badly.


That said, Windows XP does have a migration thing in it that allows you to
repear ^H^H^H^H upgrade your machine without losing all your settings.

Hell, is it just me, or does anyone else who's used XP think its a total
waste of time? I have a Celeron 533 with 384meg and its SO DAMN SLOW.
Windows 2000, OTOH, _flys_ on that machine (even running JBuilder :) ) and
its stable as all hell.

So, I'm sticking with windows 2000 and office 2000 until I have to upgrade.
Even the usual free copy of XP (being a beta tester) is unlikly to move me
over.

N

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Subject: Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration


Well Mr Borland, its windows you see, and that darn blue screen meant I
had to reinstalled Windows 42 (#*($ times, its only on one machine
*mutter* :P

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 then I guess we call you and ask you why you've installed 1 copy of d6
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 6 Registration

2001-07-11 Thread Nic Wise

No, I havn't. I have installed the last beta (ie, not RC1) since I talked to
you, so if you have a small-ish app you want testing (that doesn't need
couriering of hardware :) ) I'd be happy to try it. email me off the list -
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Its unlikely to stay around too long tho - my GF wants to learn Linux,
and I should really obligue :)

Nic.

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 Nic Wise wrote:
  Even the usual free copy of XP (being a beta tester) is unlikly to move
me
  over.
 
 Nic,
 Have you tried any Dos programs on the Beta version of XP. If so, did
 you strike any problems ?
 Peter (whose work rate over the next year or so depends on this answer).
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Re: [DUG]: similar type is used. [virus warning]

2001-07-08 Thread Nic Wise

They promised them?

Not that I recall. Might have been a we would like to... but not a we
will

The list software that is used can't do it, and is still in use..

N
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 Yes, its a great pity the administrators of this list have still not
gotten
 around to blocking attachments, and all those other wonderful things that
 were promised

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  Behalf Of Edward Aretino
  Sent: Monday, 9 July 2001 15:12
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
  Subject: Re: [DUG]: similar type is used. [virus warning]
 
 
  Look out folks, Norton tells me this regarding the attachment
  (hpbmset.exe)
  from gajo:
 
  Scan type:  Realtime Protection Scan
  Event:  Virus Found!
  Virus name: W32.Magistr.24876@mm
  File:  D:\docs\Internet\Eudora\attach\hpbmset.exe
  Location:  D:\docs\Internet\Eudora\attach
  Action taken:  Clean succeeded : Access allowed
 
 
  At 04:56 09/07/2001 +0200, you wrote:
  Valid command because $USERID is a variable of type string.4.0   String
  LiteralsScripting for Dial-Up Networking supports escape sequences and
  caret translations, as described below.  String
  Literal  Description^charCaret translationIf char is a value
  between '@' and '_', the character sequence is translated into a
  single-byte value between 0 and 31.
 
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Re: [DUG]: similar type is used. [virus warning]

2001-07-08 Thread Nic Wise

 Maybe they didn't promise anything, but there was certainly a proposal
to
 upgrade the software, and I remember it being discussed.

yup, it was discussed, but as there are around 150 domains on the mail
server (last time I looked, which was about a year ago), moving it over to a
new server is NOT a trivial operation.

 I'm a user of Yahoo Groups and it offers heaps more options.

yes it does. And it also appends an _advert_ to each and every email that
goes out, last time I used it. OK, so Mark wrote a filter for that, but
still, someone pays for every email that goes out. Plus, I get more spam to
the accounts I used to have sub'ed to egroups accounts (now yahoo groups)
than any other account I have.

Noone pays for the Delphi lists. Its done off the backs of Gary and Steve.
We could move it to yahoo or similar, but aside from the _odd_ email
attachment getting thru, noone's had a problem with it for ages.

N

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Re: [DUG]: similar type is used. [virus warning]

2001-07-08 Thread Nic Wise

 A few lines of text at the bottom of a message that you can easily ignore.


last time I checked, they were at the top.

 Well that's interesting. I don't get any spam to the addresses I have
signed
 on.

I get lots.

 There were some other issues raised like archives, address munging, digest
 mode, multiple address subscription and so on. YG happens to offer all
these
 features.

Then why dont we move over to YG then?

 My ISP runs their own lists using mhonarc which is similarly featured and
is
 free, I think.

I run my own lists using EZMLM, just not on the same server or OS that the
delphi list runs on.


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[DUG]: new educational pricing

2001-07-05 Thread Nic Wise

Hi people,

For all those poor (AHEM) students out there :) (yes, valid student ID's are
needed). All of these carry a no-commercial-use license, I beleive. If your
making money off it, you need to pay retail - sorry, but I like eating and
being paid at the end of the month :) .

NOTE: All pricing here is $US - we just adjust for our laughable exchange
rate and GST, so call Olivia on 09-3600231 of email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Delphi 6 Enterprise EDUCATIONAL: $399.00
Delphi 6 Professional EDUCATIONAL: $99.00

JBuilder 5 Enterprise EDUCATIONAL: $399.95
JBuilder 5 Professional EDUCATIONAL: $99.95

(no, I dont know why JBuilder is 95c more expensive)

Kylix Server dev EDUCATIONAL: $399.00
Kylix Desktop dev EDUCATIONAL: $99.00

More info
http://www.borland.com/education/ - just replace College for University
:)
http://www.borland.com/education/eligible.html

And the all-mightly press release:
http://www.borland.com/about/press/2001/ed_pricing.html

Nic.
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[DUG]: comparison white paper VB6 vrs Delphi 6.

2001-07-02 Thread Nic Wise

Hi

We are looking for someone who has an excellent knowledge of both VB6 and
Delphi 6 to provide us with a technical whitepaper comparing the products in
all areas.

If you are interested, please send contact details and a brief bio about
your experience with both products to Richard Vowles at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Payment is $5000 NZ + 1 license of Delphi 6 Enterprise, however this must be
completed within 2 weeks, with review available after 1 week. Deadline for
submissions is the end of this week (Friday 6th July 2001)

Feel free to forward this on to anyone else you feel would be able to do
this.

Cheers,

Nic Wise.
Borland New Zealand.


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Re: [DUG]: PC Speaker

2001-07-01 Thread Nic Wise

... or go out and spend around $20 on a cheep soundcard and a pair of
headphones or speakers!

:)

N

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Subject: RE: [DUG]: PC Speaker


 David O'Brien asked:

  Any ideas how to control the PC Speaker in D5?

 On WinNT you use Win32 API call Beep which driver the speaker for you. On
 Win9x you do it the old fashioned way by fiddling with the speaker IO port
 and timer to generate a tone. Check in an old DOS reference book, or check
 the web for some sample code.

 Cheers, Max.


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Re: [DUG]: The Long and Winding Road

2001-06-24 Thread Nic Wise

 1) If I was to program in CONSOLE mode, would I have access to graphics
 commands like LINE or RECTANGLE (or the Delphi equivalents) ?

No, but you can manually open a window and draw on it.

 2) In Standard mode, do you need to keep strictly to an OBJECT style ?
 It would make it easier if I could just convert all my spaghetti
 junction like code straight over and only have the screen graphics and
 data structures to worry about.

No, you dont _have_ to, but I'd recommend it. OO is nice once you get the
hang of it, which is, IMO, not that hard.

Might be a better idea to look at your app as a reference document and
rewrite it all in Delphi from scratch. Sounds like the nasty way, but you
end up spending a lot of time trying to make things that worked under the
old system (in my case. Paradox) work the same under the new system (in my
case, Interbase and MIDAS). In the long run, I dont think its worth it.

 Also :
 Does anyone have a Beta copy of Windows XP ? Let me know.

yup, but unless you are an official beta tester (and hence, have it), I
can't give it to you.

Nic

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Re: [DUG]: TCP/IP

2001-06-17 Thread Nic Wise

 I found the TCP components that ship with Delphi to be a real pain to use.
 If you're comfortable installing components, have a look around the net
for
 either ICS by Francois Piette or WinShoes.  There are a bunch of different
 opinions out there about which is best, but those two are the most often
 named.  Either one will be better than the standard components, and they
 both come with plenty of examples for common tasks.

WinShoes is now called Indy and ships with Delphi 6 and Kylix. Its native
VCL, and is rather good, IMO :)

Its still opensource tho. www.nervrona.com/indy I think Google.com has
it tho :)

Nic.


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Re: [DUG]: TCP/IP

2001-06-17 Thread Nic Wise

Sergi,

Indy is still free, and AFAIK, works with D5, D6 and Kylix.

:)

Nic.


 Thank you gents, I'll look at them. Though I don't have access to D6 and
 it'll have to be some 3rd party.
 Sergei.

   either ICS by Francois Piette or WinShoes.  There are a
  bunch of different
   opinions out there about which is best, but those two are
  the most often
   named.  Either one will be better than the standard
  components, and they
   both come with plenty of examples for common tasks.
 
  WinShoes is now called Indy and ships with Delphi 6 and
  Kylix. Its native
  VCL, and is rather good, IMO :)
 
  Its still opensource tho. www.nervrona.com/indy I think
  Google.com has
  it tho :)
 
  Nic.
 
 
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Re: [DUG]: Interfaces

2001-06-12 Thread Nic Wise

I design with them now - much easier, from my POV. They are used
extensivly in Java as well, so its good practice if you are ever
going to move.

Nic.


 On 13 Jun 2001, at 10:46, Neven MacEwan wrote:
 
  Sandeep
  
  Simple Answer - HUGE
 
 Only one reply so far, so should I assume that there are not many 
 people using Interfaces.
 
 Sandeep
 
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Re: RE: [DUG]: Interfaces

2001-06-12 Thread Nic Wise

 Ok, give a poor C++ programmer a hint... what are we talking about here?
  G 

I think you lot call them pure virtual classes - ie a class with
no implementation. In Delphi, you can inherit from more than one of them, 
which is a big advantage.

 Specifically, I've seen many definitions for 'interfaces', but none of 
 them seems to quite fit the discussion.  Does some kind soul out there 
 feel like enlightening me? 

:)

N

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Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

Nope, the code has been bought back inhouse for IB6.x and beyond. What was
released as free and opensource is still that way - future stuff may not be.

Firebird  IB - it might have at v6.0, but not beyond that - the code
forked almost immediatly.

Nic.

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 Yes it is (I thought) - and theres the Firebird project stemming from it.
As
 I understand it the only difference between the Open source version is
that
 Borland wont give it their certification - you are free to buy licences
and
 get the certification if you so require.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 11 June 2001 11:03
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
 Subject: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL


 Neven MacEwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/06/2001 10:09:02:
 
 Mark
 
  I understand that I can distribute Interbase for 6 simultaneous
  users from my existing D5 Pro license.
 
 I didn't think so..but i could be wrong, I would suggest MSDE here but
 the anti M$ crowd
 would prob shout me down (even if it is free)

 Uh... isn't Interbase6 free now?  Didn't it go open-source?

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Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 The Interbase site makes scary statements about the Open version being a
 work in progress which will not be supported by them.

 Not sure whether one should be concerned with this or not.  How stable is
 the current Open source version?

Very :)


 It would not be a good look to have commercial clients relying on an
 unsupported databes which ends up being used only by hobbyists and
learning
 institutions.

 Are people using the Open version commercially?

yeah, there are quite a few using the Borland released 6.0.1. Lots and lots
still using (and paying for 5.6, too)

Nic.



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Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 Nope, the code has been bought back inhouse for IB6.x and beyond. What
 was released as free and opensource is still that way - future stuff
 may not be.

 So they made IB6 free, got a bunch of people using it, then decided
 that it could turn a profit again?  That's almost funny :

Well, yes and no. They made it free, thinking it wasn't making any money.
Then, _after the fact_, they asked around, and found it was a substantial
product for some countries. That didn't go down well :)

I dont think there are lots of people using it that didn't before - they are
just not having to pay for it (assuming they moved from 5.6 in the first
place, and AFAIK, not a hell of a lot did).

 Firebird might be worth looking into if you don't want to shell out
 bucks on licensing, but I guess if you want to maintain future
 compatibility you'll have to pay for IB6.

Exactly. And I _know_ there are new features planed for IB6.5/7/etc*, but
I'm not sure what the FB lot are doing. Hell, I even walked past the IB team
when I was in Scotts Valley (the training room was almost next door to them
:) )

*obviously, I can neither confirm, nor deny, their existance, or if it will
happen etc etc etc.


 Firebird  IB - it might have at v6.0, but not beyond that - the code
 forked almost immediatly.

 Which was expected by a lot of people.  Firebird is based on the
 opensource IB6, but divergent from it.  Wonder if the various IB6 ODBC
 drivers and component sets out there will support it?

Firebird? well, IBO will, as Jason Warton seams to not like Borland now,
after the IB6 OS row, so there's one. And IBX is pretty much OpenSource,
so unless it diverges a LOT, I'd guess that both will support both versions.

Lots of bad blood and petty arguments there tho - its not pretty.

Nic.

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Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 Borlands behaviour over the entire open sourcing of InterBase has been
 somewhat curious to say the least, and the relationship between the open
 source project and the Borland project is currntly somewhat strained. But

Thats a polite way of putting it, Max :) (see references on
community.borland.com and www.ibpheonix.org (?. com?))

 the open source is open, and can't be closed again, and development will
 continue reguardless of Borlands wishes, and more in line with what those
 doing the coding want.

Technically, no. The name Interbase is NOT opensource - its still (tm)
Borland (it was never released, AFAIK - that was one of the big blowup
points in the whole mess last year). So we could have IBPheonix v1.0, but
not Interbase 6.5 - IBP version - unless Borland legal dept. let them.

But you are right - the code, or a snapshot called v6.0.1, is out there, and
I for one think thats a good thing (my bank manager doesn't, as its less
revenue and hence commission for me, but hey)

Nic.

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Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

OK, so PGSQL outperforms Oracle in some tests - does it scale as well? Is it
as well supported and known in the industry? Does it run on as many
platforms? Does it recover well if you pull the plug on the machine (ok,
so Oracle doesn't either, but IB does :) )

N
- Original Message -
From: Neven MacEwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL


 Sandeep

 Do you want URL's where PostgreSQL outperforms Oracle?
 Anyway I thought we were comparing Open Source DB's

 Neven

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 Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 12:56
 Subject: Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL


  On 11 Jun 2001, at 12:10, Neven MacEwan wrote:
 
Firebird might be worth looking into if you don't want to shell out
bucks on licensing, but I guess if you want to maintain future
compatibility you'll have to pay for IB6.
  
   So why not PostgreSQL?
  Interbase was placed in  2nd position after Oracle in a Java
  magazine. Thats good enough to impress anyone.
 
  Sandeep
 
  Software Developer
  CFL
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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 5 Free

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

Its on the PCWorld with Fortress PC and the knights on the cover (ie, June
2001). It IS, however, not upgradable and the standard version (ie, not pro
:) )

Its still good tho :)

Nic.
- Original Message -
From: Glenn Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: [DUG]: Delphi 5 Free


 Hi All,

 Just thought I would enlighten people to the fact that this months
 PC-World (NZ Edition) is giving away a free copy of Delphi 5 on their
 cover CD. I have to congratulate Borland on this marketing ploy, it
 seems a brilliant way to attract new users who will most likely upgrade
 at a later point.

 Regards,

 Glenn Bull
 Hand Multimedia
 New Zealand


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Re: [DUG]: Delphi 5 Free

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 My question, is whats the legalitie of redistributing this?  i.e. is it
 legal for me to make a CDR of the PCW coverdisc for someone?


Well, I can't _See_ anything to the contry, but I'd guess that you can only
do it in NZ without violating the agreement or something

but I dont really know - IANAL.

N

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Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 My point was a single Swallow does not a summer make...

Very true.

 My opinion is that amongst the open source DB's PostgreSQL is prob the
 leader

In some areas, yes, it is. Not in all of them, tho - and IMO, all OSS DB's
are blown out of the water by MSSQL, Oracle, Informix etc.

 As for your questions Yes, Not as yet, Yes, Yes

  OK, so PGSQL outperforms Oracle in some tests - does it scale as well?
Is
 it
  as well supported and known in the industry? Does it run on as many
  platforms? Does it recover well if you pull the plug on the machine
 (ok,
  so Oracle doesn't either, but IB does :) )


ya sure? Especially on the first and last counts?

N

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Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 Prob as sure as you are on IB.

Oh, I _know_ IB does not scale past 50 or so users on intel (well, 100, if
you design the app right). Oracle goes into the 1000's on decient hardware
(note, tho, I've never run IB on a Solaris box)

 There has been a bit of barny recently re
 PostgreSQL WAL (write ahead logging) interferrring or being interferred
with
 (performance wise) with the Linux jounalling file system so you could say
it
 it overly fault tolerant

Fair enough - what method does it employ for logging of transactions? the
same type as MSSQL and Oracle or the versioning type one that IB uses (which
means even really large DB's take seconds to come back up)

 Hmm, Wheres DB2 (and didn't IBM just buy Informix?) and isn't MSSQL single
 platform
 (Unless you count all variantions of Windows as a platform)

I forgot DB2, and yes, MSSQL is single platform. But seriously, how many
people in NZ do _you_ deal with who deploy on non-NT platforms, (ok, with
the exception of the Linux+IB crowd)

 Basically leaves DB2 and Oracle (stangely the drivers that always seem to
 ship with Enterprise -:)

exactly :)

N

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Re: [DUG]: Union

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 Sorry to interrupt the great Nic and Nev  debate but ... ;-)

hehe, oddly enough, we got on rather well in real life.


 
 Does Delphi have an equivalent to the Union statement in C++. 
 
 I have some C++ code I want to convert to Delphi
 

um:

blah = record 
  case integer of
0 : firstByte, secondByte, ThirdByte, fourthByte : byte;
   1 : firstInt, secondInt : word;
   2 : firstLong : longint
  end;
end;

or something like that.

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Re: Re: Re: [DUG]: Tuning SQL

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise

 What do you mean by got :-).

Ok, allow me to re-word it:

we got on, and still get on, fine :)

well, I think we do, anyway.

 I could be sarcastic and say what was it doing down in the first place!
Got
 to
 be suspicious of a product that has really good crash recovery :-)

Nope, gotta be sus. of hardware that gets nuked, basically. A UPS should be
one of the highest selling pieces of equipment around, but its not.

Basically, try taking your DB of choice, which ever one it is, and yank the
plug. See what happens once you get the OS back running, and then evaluate
it.

 We deploy more Linux than NT currently (hampered mainly by the installed
 base
 of software that we use). For every NT Terminal Server we roll we also
 supply
 a Mail  Firewall running Linux. Having said that we have yet to roll out
a
 linux
 DB server (but it's comming)

:) I thought you were an MSSQL shop? grins, ducks, and runs like hell

Seriously, thats how Linux is creeping in these days - routers etc, then
samba, then DB's, then. THE WORLD! bwahahaha!

back to work. The men with white coats and the net are coming up in the
lift.

Nic.


  Basically leaves DB2 and Oracle (stangely the drivers that always seem
to
  ship with Enterprise -:)

  exactly :)

 Good to see we can FINISH this thread ageeing

 Neven



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Re: [DUG]: IB Downloads

2001-06-10 Thread Nic Wise



http://www.borland.com/devsupport/interbase/opensource/

you will need: windows server, optionally windows 
client (client is in the server, and can be installed on its own)
linux binaries if you want them
Interclient 1.6 if you plan to to Java stuff - 
otherwise, dont bother. 2.0 is only a beta.
IBX - get the source, its newer (AFAIK) than the 
one in Delphi 5.
get the 320 console. Dont bother with the source 
unless you wanna mess with it.

and, optionally, the security fixes 
from:

http://www.borland.com/devsupport/interbase/security_patches.html

note, however, its a pretty difficult exploit that 
can't be easily exploited without the source, but I guess the source is out 
there.

N



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark Howard 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi 
  
  Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:17 PM
  Subject: [DUG]: IB Downloads
  
  If I want to try Open Source IB (and I DON'T want to re-open 
  the discussion! - although there was some useful stuff in there) what version should I download and from where - there seem to be several 
  options. Not sure if I've got the right one.
  
  For Interbase questions - is there a more appropriate list 
  to use - I think I heard that the Database list was no longer 
  operational. Is that right?
  
  Mark
  
  


Re: [DUG]: Interbase/Delphi Stored Procedure

2001-05-29 Thread Nic Wise

  CREATE PROCEDURE PRO_GETSLPRTY
  RETURNS (ID_SLPRTY INTEGER)
  AS
  BEGIN
  ID_SLPRTY = gen_id(GEN_SLPRTY, 1);

um, dont you need a 

SUSPEND;

right about here? Or is that just for ones you execute with

select * from PRO_GETSLPRTY

??


 Thats because u r trying to pass a input parameter which doesn't 
 exist in the stored procedure.

definatly the case :)

Nic.

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[DUG]: more on kylix pricing

2001-05-29 Thread Nic Wise

on theregister.co.uk, no less.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19283.html



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[DUG]: Delphi 6 launch TOMMOROW (and Wednesday and Thursday)

2001-05-27 Thread Nic Wise

Hi everyone

just a reminder that the Delphi 6 - and JBuilder 5 - launch is tomorrow in
Auckland, Wednesday in Wellington and Thursday in Christchurch. If you
haven't registered, its not too late - or, alternatively, just turn up :)

More info at http://register.borland.co.nz/ebusiness

Nic.

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?

2001-05-23 Thread Nic Wise

Well, NZ price = US price x exchange rate, so I guess so, but call the
office to be sure (09-3600231), but its just a special price until august
23rd in the US.

Nic.

   Is this new pricing?
 
  http://shop.borland.com/Product/0,1057,3-15-CQ100479,00.html
 
 
  Steve


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Re: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?

2001-05-23 Thread Nic Wise



yup, its only the "desktop" edition.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cooke, Andrew 
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:36 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [DUG]: Kylix price 
  drop?
  
  Like 
  I am when I go to the supermarket each week and find there is a special on 
  something I purchased the previous week...
  
  Anyway, isn't this the "developer" version, not the "professional" 
  version?
  
  Regards,
   Andrew Cooke.
  
-Original Message-From: Moises Lopez 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2001 10:32 
a.m.To: Multiple recipients of list delphiSubject: RE: 
[DUG]: Kylix price drop?
just imagine that you had just acquired kylix... 
wouldnt you be just a little mad at borland?
;-)


Re: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?

2001-05-23 Thread Nic Wise

No idea - call the office, they should know (I'm onsite at the moment :) )

09-3600231 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nic.
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?



 Does this also go for the discount coupon in the Delphi 6 box?
 Enterprise = 400 x exhange
 Pro = 75 x exchange

 JED

 Well, NZ price = US price x exchange rate, so I guess so, but call the
 office to be sure (09-3600231), but its just a special price until august
 23rd in the US.

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?

2001-05-23 Thread Nic Wise

We will do the desktop price - $199US - as a close-enough-to-direct $US -
$NZ price translation. thats _approx_ $450NZ + gst etc. Annie just confirmed
it with me about 2 seconds ago.

Thats on Desktop only tho, not server. I'm not sure the office people know
about it, but they will shortly whenyou all call and order it, right?!?!?!
:)

Nic.
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?



 They may not ship it since it is available local.  I don't know if this is
 the case.  Be handy if you had a contact
 in the states.  (How many copies you want...)

 JED

  Does anyone know if we could just buy from the US at that $199US price?

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Re: [DUG]: Kylix price drop?

2001-05-23 Thread Nic Wise

 do you know if the webbroker components in kylix server are available as
 upgrade from desktop?

Sorry, AFAIK there are no addons to Kylix :(

Nic.

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Re: [DUG]: IDSN Modem

2001-05-17 Thread Nic Wise

 No the ISDN modem does not use D.U.N.
 I am not entirly sure what thos go is. I have an ISDN modem, a network
hub,
 and a Cisco I think it might be a router, but not sure.
 Anyway, I entered an IP address for my machine, and a gateway to the Cisco
 unit, and then when I try to navigate, it dials, but I did not setup any
 D.U.N for itotherwise I would have used your suggestion.

welcome to the world of dial-on-demand. 99% of decient routers will do this
on an ISDN connection :)

 I thought of doing a PING to our main webserver to see if it was
connected,
 but obvcourse this would make the ISDN modem dial.

exactly.

 I have some code to find the IP address assigned to my machine when I am
 connected t the net, maybe I could check the result to see if I get an IP
 address returned...AAny other Ideas ??

Try looking at the SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol - NOT SMTP!!! it
has nothing to do with mail!) interface on the Cisco (assuming its plugged
into the ISDN modem), or on the modem if it has a network interface. That
should tell if you its up or not. If you have a [u|li]nux box around, there
are SNMP tools around, if you are on windows, well, there is an RFC for SNMP
somewhere, and the components in Indy may support it.

Infact: fires up delphi 6 it does not out of the box, but its fairly
simple and based on UDP AFAIK. You will need to hit either the modem maker
or cisco for the MIB (Management Info Block - IDL for SNMP) for the device
tho.

N

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Re: [DUG]: IDSN Modem

2001-05-17 Thread Nic Wise

Oh, and BTW:

the Nokia M10 - and M1122 I guess - DO do SNMP, and you can get the IP from
it, which is very handy when you want to use your dynamic IP and push it up
to a dynamic DNS server to appear to be a fixed server. :) Friend of
mine did it, and it works really well, but he _does_ have 100% control over
the DNS server.

Nic.

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From: Jeremy Coulter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: IDSN Modem


 No the ISDN modem does not use D.U.N.
 I am not entirly sure what thos go is. I have an ISDN modem, a network
hub,
 and a Cisco I think it might be a router, but not sure.
 Anyway, I entered an IP address for my machine, and a gateway to the Cisco
 unit, and then when I try to navigate, it dials, but I did not setup any
 D.U.N for itotherwise I would have used your suggestion.

 I thought of doing a PING to our main webserver to see if it was
connected,
 but obvcourse this would make the ISDN modem dial.

 I have some code to find the IP address assigned to my machine when I am
 connected t the net, maybe I could check the result to see if I get an IP
 address returned...AAny other Ideas ??

 Cheers, Jeremy Coulter

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Laurence Bevan
 Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2001 18:00
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
 Subject: RE: [DUG]: IDSN Modem


  Is there a way to detect promatically if an ISDN modem is connected ?
  This is my first time using an ISDN modem, so I am curious, plus I need
to
 know for  a wee app. I have to write.

 Jeremy,

 Does the connection you use the ISDN modem for show up in Dial-Up
 Networking? If so, then yes there is a way to detect connections. If the
app
 in mind is one that monitors connection usage then we have an app you
might
 be interested in. It works for dial-up and ADSL but have never tried it
with
 ISDN.

 Email me offlist if you like.

 Laurence Bevan

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[DUG]: Borlands Business is your E-Business - JB5/D6 Launch

2001-05-16 Thread Nic Wise


**
 for more infomation and FREE registration, please visit

http://register.borland.co.nz/ebusiness 

**


# Enterprise Solutions Breakfast - Dr Kevin McIsaac, from 
Meta group will present an overview of the challenges 
facing all businesses today and address the big issues of 
n-tier architecture, intergration, and storage 
consolidation.

This session provides insight into the challenges facing 
all businesses today and addresses the big issues of n-tier
architecture, system integration, and storage and server 
consolidation. 

A must-attend session for top management and decision-makers.

# JBuilder 5 Product Launch - This technical session will 
bring you up to speed on the new features of JBuilder 5, 
and will be of great value to Java developers, current 
JBuilder users and anyone involved in the technical area
of Web and J2EE(tm) development.

Presented by Greg Wright, Senior Engineer, Borland Aust. Pty.


# Delphi 6 Product Launch - Make the move from business 
to e-business a snap with Delphi 6's BizSnap(tm), 
WebSnap(tm), and DataSnap(tm). 

Not to be missed by Web developers, current Delphi users, 
and anyone who develops applications for Windows.

Presented by John Kaster, Senior Manager, 
Developer Relations, Borland USA.

**
 for more infomation and FREE registration, please visit

http://register.borland.co.nz/ebusiness 

**



**
VENUES
**

Auckland, Tuesday 29 May 2001
Sky City, Conference Centre, Level 3
Corner of Victoria and Federal Street

Wellington, Wednesday 30 May 2001
Te Papa, Concourse Conference Centre
Level 3, Cable Street


Christchurch, Thursday 31 May 2001  
Rydges Christchurch
Cnr Oxford Terrace  Worcester Street


**
AGENDA
**

Auckland and Wellington Agenda:
7.30 am - 8.00 am   Registration
8.00 am - 10.30 am  Enterprise Solutions Breakfast
11.30 am - 1.30 pm  JBuilder 5 Product Launch
2.00 pm - 3.30 pm   Delphi 6 Product Launch

Christchurch Agenda:
8.00am - 8.30am Registration
8.30am - 10.00amJBuilder 5 Product Launch
10.30am - 12.00pm   Delphi 6 Product Launch

**


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Re: [DUG]: A few more delphi 6 articles.

2001-05-15 Thread Nic Wise

yeah, slip-oh-the-finger, I guess.

Sun's ONE is their version of .net and IBM's somethingelse

basically, web services for the masses.

N
- Original Message -
From: Mark Derricutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: A few more delphi 6 articles.


 Pity about this line:

 In terms of Web-based frameworks, Sun Microsystem's Delphi 6 doesn't only
 support Microsoft's .NET; Sun's ONE framework is also catered for

 I didn't know Sun Microsystem's did Delphi ? :P  Also, whats Suns ONE
 framework?

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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-09 Thread Nic Wise

 As an aside, this is one reason why Java has done so well - it transcends
 the heterogeneous nature of the enterprise. Note that the entrance cost of
 the JDK (and its labour saving class libraries) is very low.


The enterance cost of the JDK, in $ terms, is low, but the productivity
without a decient IDE is also VERY low. You need a debugger for java, just
as you do for other environments. Just imagine doing delphi development with
notepad and dcc32 - not a lot of fun.

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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-09 Thread Nic Wise

Yes. Definatly. It also has ADO (dbGo- noone can use the name ADO), and
dbExpress, which is the new, crossplatform, lightweight db access framework.

N
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Subject: Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 Does D6 still talk to the BDE?
 Mark
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  Well in this case isn't the client the business?
 
  A few months ago I saw research that claimed 90% of software
development
  is
  custom development done in house by business. Only 10% of software
  development is for shrink-wrap sales.
 

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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-09 Thread Nic Wise

upgrades are usually from any delphi version of the same level, eg pro to
pro or ent to ent.

there are crossgrades, too and they are usually a little more, but you can
go from pro to ent or VB to pro etc.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 Pro full upgrade - $890+  . . . This also from version 2?

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 Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2001 11:00 a.m.
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 Subject: Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 OK, pricing (all are +freight +gst):

 enterprise full $6670 + gst
   upgrade $5330 + gst
 pro full $2220 + gst
   upgrade $890 + gst

 order before 30 june and get a discount
 pro $815 + gst (upgrade)
 ent $4930 + gst (upgrade)

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Re: [DUG]: Fw: Borland Unveils Industry's First RAD Web Services Development Platform

2001-05-09 Thread Nic Wise

Its Kylix Desktop (ie, pro) only.

   Would the D6 + Kylix deal include D6.Upgrade + Kylix.Full @ half
 price
  
   Cheers,
   Nahum.
  
-Original Message-
From: Nic Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 08:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
Subject: [DUG]: Fw: Borland Unveils Industry's First RAD Web
Services
Development Platform
   
   
well, its official - Delphi 6 is out of the hat - the XML stuff,
BTW,
hassupport for XSD, but I couldn't say anything until this was out
:)
   
Also, we have a special on Kylix + Delphi 6 - buy Delphi 6
(well, preorder
it :) ) and get Kylix for 1/2 price :) Call the office (09)
3600-231 for
more info or visit us at the ComputerWorld expo in Auckland.
   
There is an Akl / Welli / Chch launch of this and JBuilder 5
towards the end
of the month, with David Intersimone doing the talking AFAIK :)
   
Nic.
   
   
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
BORLAND UNVEILS INDUSTRY'S FIRST RAD WEB SERVICES DEVELOPMENT
PLATFORM
Borland. DelphiT 6 Introduces New RAD Platform For The Rapid
Creation Of Web
Services Using Latest Industry Standards
SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif. - May 8, 2001 - Borland Software
Corporation (Nasdaq
NM: BORL), a leader in e-business implementation platforms,
today announced
the availability of Borland. DelphiT 6, the new version of its rapid
application development (RAD) environment for Windows.. As
the first RAD
tool to help developers easily use and create industry standard Web
Services, Delphi 6 enables the rapid development and deployment of
applications using XML- and SOAP-based Web Services
technologies.  Delphi 6
Web Services and XML technologies speed e-business by
allowing companies to
share and exchange application data, such as information
about a business,
transaction or supplier, over the Internet with minimal human
intervention.
Delphi 6 is the only RAD environment that fully supports all
major emerging
industry standards: XML, SOAP, WSDL, and XSL; in turn,
supporting emerging
Web Services based vendor platforms such as Microsoft. .Net
and BizTalk, and
from Sun Microsystems. ONE, while providing the scalability
and reliability
that enterprise and Web developers require.
The adoption of Web Services is at a crossroads, said Evan
Quinn, director
of application strategies for Hurwitz Group, an analyst, research,
and
consulting firm. Right now, individual and corporate
developers need the
right tools to make Web Services applications powerful, yet
easy to design.
With Delphi 6, Borland is responding to this critical industry
need.
The new Delphi framework includes BizSnapT, WebSnapT and
DataSnapT, which
will help users build server-side and client-side
applications that support
Web Services specifications through a fully integrated set of
Web Service
enabled visuals tool, advanced compiler technology and
re-usable software
components.  Delphi 6 is designed to enable faster time-to-market by
simplifying business-to-business integration.
Web Services is the next step in application development on
the Internet
and developers are under pressure to quickly move business
applications to
open standards so even though two companies have different IT
infrastructure, they can conduct e-business together, said
Simon Thornhill,
vice president and general manager of Borland's RAD products.
 Delphi 6
enables any Enterprise to quickly move into the future of e-business
application development with Web Services without abandoning past
methodologies, skills and source code.
Borland Delphi 6 new product features include:
* BizSnap Web Services RAD development platform simplifies
business-to-business integration by easily creating XML/SOAP
Web Services
and connections.
* WebSnap is a component-based Web application development
framework that
supports leading Web Application Servers, including ApacheT,
Netscape. and
Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS).
* DataSnap allows customers to build high-performance, Web
Service-enabled
middleware that enables any client application or service to
easily connect
with any major database, such as Oracle., MS-SQL Server,
Informix., IBM.
DB2., Sybase. and InterBase., through industry standard Web
Services and
XML, DCOM, or CORBA..
In addition, when paired with Borland KylixT, the first native RAD
environment for the Linux. operating system (OS), Delphi 6
users can build
single-source applications for both Windows and Linux, which opens
new
opportunities and increases the potential return on
development investments.
Delphi 6 is scheduled to be available this month in three
editions

[DUG]: Fw: Borland Unveils Industry's First RAD Web Services Development Platform

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

well, its official - Delphi 6 is out of the hat - the XML stuff, BTW,
hassupport for XSD, but I couldn't say anything until this was out :)

Also, we have a special on Kylix + Delphi 6 - buy Delphi 6 (well, preorder
it :) ) and get Kylix for 1/2 price :) Call the office (09) 3600-231 for
more info or visit us at the ComputerWorld expo in Auckland.

There is an Akl / Welli / Chch launch of this and JBuilder 5 towards the end
of the month, with David Intersimone doing the talking AFAIK :)

Nic.


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
BORLAND UNVEILS INDUSTRY'S FIRST RAD WEB SERVICES DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM
Borland. DelphiT 6 Introduces New RAD Platform For The Rapid Creation Of Web
Services Using Latest Industry Standards
SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif. - May 8, 2001 - Borland Software Corporation (Nasdaq
NM: BORL), a leader in e-business implementation platforms, today announced
the availability of Borland. DelphiT 6, the new version of its rapid
application development (RAD) environment for Windows.. As the first RAD
tool to help developers easily use and create industry standard Web
Services, Delphi 6 enables the rapid development and deployment of
applications using XML- and SOAP-based Web Services technologies.  Delphi 6
Web Services and XML technologies speed e-business by allowing companies to
share and exchange application data, such as information about a business,
transaction or supplier, over the Internet with minimal human intervention.
Delphi 6 is the only RAD environment that fully supports all major emerging
industry standards: XML, SOAP, WSDL, and XSL; in turn, supporting emerging
Web Services based vendor platforms such as Microsoft. .Net and BizTalk, and
from Sun Microsystems. ONE, while providing the scalability and reliability
that enterprise and Web developers require.
The adoption of Web Services is at a crossroads, said Evan Quinn, director
of application strategies for Hurwitz Group, an analyst, research, and
consulting firm. Right now, individual and corporate developers need the
right tools to make Web Services applications powerful, yet easy to design.
With Delphi 6, Borland is responding to this critical industry need.
The new Delphi framework includes BizSnapT, WebSnapT and DataSnapT, which
will help users build server-side and client-side applications that support
Web Services specifications through a fully integrated set of Web Service
enabled visuals tool, advanced compiler technology and re-usable software
components.  Delphi 6 is designed to enable faster time-to-market by
simplifying business-to-business integration.
Web Services is the next step in application development on the Internet
and developers are under pressure to quickly move business applications to
open standards so even though two companies have different IT
infrastructure, they can conduct e-business together, said Simon Thornhill,
vice president and general manager of Borland's RAD products.  Delphi 6
enables any Enterprise to quickly move into the future of e-business
application development with Web Services without abandoning past
methodologies, skills and source code.
Borland Delphi 6 new product features include:
* BizSnap Web Services RAD development platform simplifies
business-to-business integration by easily creating XML/SOAP Web Services
and connections.
* WebSnap is a component-based Web application development framework that
supports leading Web Application Servers, including ApacheT, Netscape. and
Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS).
* DataSnap allows customers to build high-performance, Web Service-enabled
middleware that enables any client application or service to easily connect
with any major database, such as Oracle., MS-SQL Server, Informix., IBM.
DB2., Sybase. and InterBase., through industry standard Web Services and
XML, DCOM, or CORBA..
In addition, when paired with Borland KylixT, the first native RAD
environment for the Linux. operating system (OS), Delphi 6 users can build
single-source applications for both Windows and Linux, which opens new
opportunities and increases the potential return on development investments.
Delphi 6 is scheduled to be available this month in three editions --
Enterprise, Professional and Personal.
About Borland . Delphi 6 T
Borland Delphi 6 is the first rapid application development environment for
Windows that fully supports new and emerging Web Services.  With Delphi 6,
corporate or individual developers can create next generation e-business
applications quickly and easily.  Major features include BizSnap, WebSnap
and DataSnap that enable developers to create applications that simplify
business-to-business integration with full support for XML, SOAP, and WSDL.
Delphi 6's industry standard Web Services support enables immediate and
ongoing integration with emerging Web Services based vendor platforms such
as .Net and BizTalk from Microsoft, and ONE from Sun Microsystems.  For more
information about Delphi 6, please visit the Borland website,

Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

 Nic, would be good to get thee NZ pricing out asap - I have budget money
for
 Delphi allocated before July and could going on the red tape.

I'll get it ASAP - Alice, who has the info, is currently in transit to the
computerworld expo, so I'll get it from her as soon as she gets there and
calls me :)

Nic.

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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

OK, pricing (all are +freight +gst):

enterprise full $6670 + gst
  upgrade $5330 + gst
pro full $2220 + gst
  upgrade $890 + gst

order before 30 june and get a discount
pro $815 + gst (upgrade)
ent $4930 + gst (upgrade)

wow, the NZ$ does suck (and our prices in the US have gone up a bit too.)

 Nic, would be good to get thee NZ pricing out asap - I have budget money
for
 Delphi allocated before July and could going on the red tape.



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Re: [DUG]: Fw: Borland Unveils Industry's First RAD Web Services Development Platform

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

 Most likely. I'll have to check.

- Original Message -
From: Nahum Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: Fw: Borland Unveils Industry's First RAD Web Services
Development Platform


 Would the D6 + Kylix deal include D6.Upgrade + Kylix.Full @ half price

 Cheers,
 Nahum.

  -Original Message-
  From: Nic Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 08:54 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
  Subject: [DUG]: Fw: Borland Unveils Industry's First RAD Web Services
  Development Platform
 
 
  well, its official - Delphi 6 is out of the hat - the XML stuff, BTW,
  hassupport for XSD, but I couldn't say anything until this was out :)
 
  Also, we have a special on Kylix + Delphi 6 - buy Delphi 6
  (well, preorder
  it :) ) and get Kylix for 1/2 price :) Call the office (09)
  3600-231 for
  more info or visit us at the ComputerWorld expo in Auckland.
 
  There is an Akl / Welli / Chch launch of this and JBuilder 5
  towards the end
  of the month, with David Intersimone doing the talking AFAIK :)
 
  Nic.
 
 
  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
  BORLAND UNVEILS INDUSTRY'S FIRST RAD WEB SERVICES DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM
  Borland. DelphiT 6 Introduces New RAD Platform For The Rapid
  Creation Of Web
  Services Using Latest Industry Standards
  SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif. - May 8, 2001 - Borland Software
  Corporation (Nasdaq
  NM: BORL), a leader in e-business implementation platforms,
  today announced
  the availability of Borland. DelphiT 6, the new version of its rapid
  application development (RAD) environment for Windows.. As
  the first RAD
  tool to help developers easily use and create industry standard Web
  Services, Delphi 6 enables the rapid development and deployment of
  applications using XML- and SOAP-based Web Services
  technologies.  Delphi 6
  Web Services and XML technologies speed e-business by
  allowing companies to
  share and exchange application data, such as information
  about a business,
  transaction or supplier, over the Internet with minimal human
  intervention.
  Delphi 6 is the only RAD environment that fully supports all
  major emerging
  industry standards: XML, SOAP, WSDL, and XSL; in turn,
  supporting emerging
  Web Services based vendor platforms such as Microsoft. .Net
  and BizTalk, and
  from Sun Microsystems. ONE, while providing the scalability
  and reliability
  that enterprise and Web developers require.
  The adoption of Web Services is at a crossroads, said Evan
  Quinn, director
  of application strategies for Hurwitz Group, an analyst, research, and
  consulting firm. Right now, individual and corporate
  developers need the
  right tools to make Web Services applications powerful, yet
  easy to design.
  With Delphi 6, Borland is responding to this critical industry need.
  The new Delphi framework includes BizSnapT, WebSnapT and
  DataSnapT, which
  will help users build server-side and client-side
  applications that support
  Web Services specifications through a fully integrated set of
  Web Service
  enabled visuals tool, advanced compiler technology and
  re-usable software
  components.  Delphi 6 is designed to enable faster time-to-market by
  simplifying business-to-business integration.
  Web Services is the next step in application development on
  the Internet
  and developers are under pressure to quickly move business
  applications to
  open standards so even though two companies have different IT
  infrastructure, they can conduct e-business together, said
  Simon Thornhill,
  vice president and general manager of Borland's RAD products.
   Delphi 6
  enables any Enterprise to quickly move into the future of e-business
  application development with Web Services without abandoning past
  methodologies, skills and source code.
  Borland Delphi 6 new product features include:
  * BizSnap Web Services RAD development platform simplifies
  business-to-business integration by easily creating XML/SOAP
  Web Services
  and connections.
  * WebSnap is a component-based Web application development
  framework that
  supports leading Web Application Servers, including ApacheT,
  Netscape. and
  Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS).
  * DataSnap allows customers to build high-performance, Web
  Service-enabled
  middleware that enables any client application or service to
  easily connect
  with any major database, such as Oracle., MS-SQL Server,
  Informix., IBM.
  DB2., Sybase. and InterBase., through industry standard Web
  Services and
  XML, DCOM, or CORBA..
  In addition, when paired with Borland KylixT, the first native RAD
  environment for the Linux. operating system (OS), Delphi 6
  users can build
  single-source applications for both Windows and Linux, which opens new
  opportunities and increases the potential return on
  development investments.
  Delphi 6 is scheduled to be available this month

Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

As I said, the prices have gone up, and the NZ doller has dropped quite a
bit since delphi 5 was released. (which was, what, nearly 2 years ago now?)

Just based on the exchange rate (41c/$US), this would be around 2730$ US,
which would have been 4964$NZ @ 55c/$US or 5460@ 50c/$US. (vrs 6660 it is
now). Thats a big difference (around $1200) _just_ based on the exchange
rate, not on a price hike.

Time to get some US$ contracts, I think :)

Nic.

- Original Message -
From: James Low [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 It doesn't such THAT much!

 -Original Message-
 From: Nic Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 9 May 2001 11:00
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
 Subject: Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 OK, pricing (all are +freight +gst):

 enterprise full $6670 + gst
   upgrade $5330 + gst
 pro full $2220 + gst
   upgrade $890 + gst

 order before 30 june and get a discount
 pro $815 + gst (upgrade)
 ent $4930 + gst (upgrade)

 wow, the NZ$ does suck (and our prices in the US have gone up a bit too.)

  Nic, would be good to get thee NZ pricing out asap - I have budget money
 for
  Delphi allocated before July and could going on the red tape.
 


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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

No mention yet, AFAIK, but I would imagine that the status quo would stand.

- Original Message -
From: Colin Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 Someone else mentioned unbundling... this was done a bit with the last
 version, eg ADO add-on, any info on unbundling with D6??

 Regards
 Colin

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Nic Wise
 Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2001 11:00 am
 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
 Subject: Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 OK, pricing (all are +freight +gst):

 enterprise full $6670 + gst
   upgrade $5330 + gst
 pro full $2220 + gst
   upgrade $890 + gst

 order before 30 june and get a discount
 pro $815 + gst (upgrade)
 ent $4930 + gst (upgrade)

 wow, the NZ$ does suck (and our prices in the US have gone up a bit too.)

  Nic, would be good to get thee NZ pricing out asap - I have budget money
 for
  Delphi allocated before July and could going on the red tape.
 


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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

That maybe so, but its tools like gcc (especially gcc) that make people use
Delphi and Kylix in the first place. It may cost you $6K for the enterprise
verison of the Delphi 6, but how long _extra_ (at, for eg, $80/hr) would it
take to write an app in gcc? Hell, how much extra time would it take to
_compile_ something with gcc, which is pretty much the world slowest
compiler (unless they have improved it out of sight in gcc 3.x).

:)

N
- Original Message -
From: Mark Derricutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...


 it's also prices like these that make people look towards say gcc and
 KDevelop and linux/open source solutions.

 --On Wednesday, 9 May 2001 1:05 p.m. +1200 Martin Paulo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  PS: Having just compared these prices to our MSDN subscription price I
can
  see that it is probably time to start brushing up on my C# skills!




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Re: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...

2001-05-08 Thread Nic Wise

Jed:

Kylix = Delphi 5 on the linux platform. Its almost feature-for-feature, but
without the BDE (pretty much), and a few Linux-centric extras, eg Apache
support.

Hell, 1/2 of the dialogs even LOOK the same!

N

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Subject: RE: [DUG]: d6 - pricing, mutter...



 I think it's a case of you get what you paid for.  You can't honestly
 compare either of those development enviroments (well GCC isn't
technically
 an enviroment) to Delphi.  Haven't used Kylix first hand so I can only go
 on hearsay but have used both KDevelop and GCC.

 JED

 PS:  Glad to see you got rid of that offensive quote in your sig  ;-)


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[DUG]: Fw: Help us stress test the chat server! (and talk about next gen web services)

2001-05-07 Thread Nic Wise

this is, I think, 3pm NZDT wednessday, but I'm not sure. The site is not up
quite yet, tho :)

 On May 8, 2001, at 10:00am PDT (1700 GMT) we will be hosting a moderated
 live chat
 on the Borland Community Web Site.

 The subject of this chat will be Borland's Next Generation Web Services
 Strategy.

 Since this could be of interest to one or two people out there, the chat
 may
 get a little crowded, so we'd like to do some capacity testing TONIGHT
 for it.

 If the site is configured appropriately in time, Anders Oh!, Christine
 Ellis and
 myself will be moderating a general, free-for-all test chat in the
 Delphi room at
 7:00 pm PDT (200 GMT, Tuesday) to see how much traffic our router can
 stand.

 The link for the chat test is: http://chatjet.borland.com/delphi

 If this room isn't available yet, that means it hasn't been configured
 properly yet.

 (A little background)
 For the Kylix launch chat, we had about 120 people, then we started
 experiencing
 bandwidth problems with the router. The chat machine itself was fine, of
 course,
 since it was built with Kylix g. For the Interbase chat, we had just
 under 100
 people (97, IIRC) so we don't know for sure if the load problems have
 been solved.

 So, we'd like to try to get 300 - 500 people hitting the box tonight if
 possible.
 If you can help test it, I'd really appreciate it. If we hit problems
 with some
 lower number, we can throttle back the chat server to deny additional
 people
 logging in to the chat. Obviously, everyone is welcome to attend, so
 we'd like
 to make sure we can gracefully handle an overload of people and give
 them a room
 capacity has been set at x by the fire marshall message instead of
 some ugly
 web error.

 If you can help participate in the chat, or you haven't heard of our
 chat server
 before, please go to http://community.borland.com/chat/ to make sure
 you're all
 set for the chats both at 200 GMT and at 1700 GMT.

 Thanks for your help keeping the community site working for you.

 --
 John Kaster, Borland Developer Relations, http://community.borland.com
 $1150/$50K: Thanks to my donors!
 http://homepages.borland.com/jkaster/tnt/thanks.html
 Buy Kylix! http://www.borland.com/kylix * Got source?
 http://codecentral.borland.com
 The #1 Java IDE: http://www.borland.com/jbuilder

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Re: [DUG]: Fw: Help us stress test the chat server! (and talk about next gen web services)

2001-05-07 Thread Nic Wise

oops, its 1700GMT, which is, I think, 5am NZT? My bad.

- Original Message -
From: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: [DUG]: Fw: Help us stress test the chat server! (and talk about
next gen web services)


 this is, I think, 3pm NZDT wednessday, but I'm not sure. The site is not
up
 quite yet, tho :)

  On May 8, 2001, at 10:00am PDT (1700 GMT) we will be hosting a moderated
  live chat
  on the Borland Community Web Site.
 
  The subject of this chat will be Borland's Next Generation Web Services
  Strategy.
 
  Since this could be of interest to one or two people out there, the chat
  may
  get a little crowded, so we'd like to do some capacity testing TONIGHT
  for it.
 
  If the site is configured appropriately in time, Anders Oh!, Christine
  Ellis and
  myself will be moderating a general, free-for-all test chat in the
  Delphi room at
  7:00 pm PDT (200 GMT, Tuesday) to see how much traffic our router can
  stand.
 
  The link for the chat test is: http://chatjet.borland.com/delphi
 
  If this room isn't available yet, that means it hasn't been configured
  properly yet.
 
  (A little background)
  For the Kylix launch chat, we had about 120 people, then we started
  experiencing
  bandwidth problems with the router. The chat machine itself was fine, of
  course,
  since it was built with Kylix g. For the Interbase chat, we had just
  under 100
  people (97, IIRC) so we don't know for sure if the load problems have
  been solved.
 
  So, we'd like to try to get 300 - 500 people hitting the box tonight if
  possible.
  If you can help test it, I'd really appreciate it. If we hit problems
  with some
  lower number, we can throttle back the chat server to deny additional
  people
  logging in to the chat. Obviously, everyone is welcome to attend, so
  we'd like
  to make sure we can gracefully handle an overload of people and give
  them a room
  capacity has been set at x by the fire marshall message instead of
  some ugly
  web error.
 
  If you can help participate in the chat, or you haven't heard of our
  chat server
  before, please go to http://community.borland.com/chat/ to make sure
  you're all
  set for the chats both at 200 GMT and at 1700 GMT.
 
  Thanks for your help keeping the community site working for you.
 
  --
  John Kaster, Borland Developer Relations, http://community.borland.com
  $1150/$50K: Thanks to my donors!
  http://homepages.borland.com/jkaster/tnt/thanks.html
  Buy Kylix! http://www.borland.com/kylix * Got source?
  http://codecentral.borland.com
  The #1 Java IDE: http://www.borland.com/jbuilder

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Re: [DUG]: Fw: Help us stress test the chat server! (and talk about next gen web services)

2001-05-07 Thread Nic Wise

As it says in the email, the problem is NOT the chat server, its the router.
It flakes out at around 100 users, wihch I'd say would be regardless of
protocol.

tongue-in-cheek type=global-dominationanyway, why use something standard
when you can use your own product/protocol? Thats how MS got like they are
:)/tongue-in-cheek

N
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From: Mark Derricutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Fw: Help us stress test the chat server! (and talk about
next gen web services)


 Why don't they just use an IRC server and a java irc client, and let those
 using BitchX or mIRC or XChat use that, getting problems at 100 users?
eeep
 :P

 --On Tuesday, 8 May 2001 10:08 a.m. +1200 Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  (A little background)
  For the Kylix launch chat, we had about 120 people, then we started
  experiencing
  bandwidth problems with the router. The chat machine itself was fine,
of

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[DUG]: Fw: Visibroker 3.3 Available for Delphi 5

2001-05-06 Thread Nic Wise



VISIBROKER 3.3 FOR DELPHI 5 - SERVER  CLIENT EDITION, leading the way to
the fastest CORBA development is now available from
http://www.borland.com/visibroker/delphi/

Updated questions  answers are available at
http://www.borland.com/visibroker/delphi/qanda.html

 and the latest whitepapers can be found at
http://www.borland.com/visibroker/delphi/whitepapers/


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[DUG]: marketing Fw: More Kylix white papers available at http://www.borland.com/kylix/papers/

2001-05-06 Thread Nic Wise

 The second series of Kylix white papers have arrived!

 - The Kylix Evaluators Guide - RADical Performance Linux Application
 Development
 (http://www.borland.com/kylix/papers/eval_guide.pdf)
 This guide provides an overview of the Kylix product line, its major
 features and benefits, and a look at the underlying technology that
 makes Kylix unique.
 
 - Technical Overview of the Kylix Compiler
 By John Ray Thomas - RAD Tools Product Manager, Borland Software
 Corporation
 (http://www.borland.com/kylix/papers/techovrvwcompiler.pdf)
 This white paper covers the highly visual Integrated Development
 Environment (IDE) of Borland Kylix. It often is easy to overlook one of
 the most important behind
 the scenes keys to this modern development system.  That key, the native
 code compiler, is absolutely essential to make your programmed logic and
 
 turn it into an application that runs natively on your target operating
 system.
 
 COMING SOON ...
 
 Kylix vs. GCC - May 2001
 Migrating your Projects to Kylix - May 2001


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