Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Myrna van Lunteren
I was also wondering if a bug with a higher number of votes should be taken to be more severe. Or having higher priority? Myrna

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 7/26/06, Kathey Marsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree. If a JIRA admin can enable the urgency field then the community can start marking urgency for the 10.2 issues as they think appropriate without regard to JIRA Priority (severity)/ The release manager, The reporter, the assignee, or

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Kathey Marsden
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: I see what you mean, even though there is no "transition from the current scheme". We don't have a current scheme for defining priority(jira urgency), only one for defining severity(jira priority). I agree. If a JIRA admin can enable the urgency field then the co

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Rick Hillegas wrote: > I'm simply trying to clarify the transition from the current scheme to > Kathey's preferred scheme. Someone has to fill in the value of Urgency > for pre-existing issues. I'm asking whether this is the algorithm for > determining Urgency values for 10.2 issues which have alr

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Kathey, I think we're on the same page. I hope my reply to Dan's question clarified the intention of my mapping table. I'm trying to figure out how we assign Urgency values to existing 10.2 JIRAs. I'm asking whether this is the algorithm you would use. At the risk of being pedantic and cr

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Thanks, Kathey. I think this does capture what I mean. I think this is your proposal: Priority - Means "severity" according to the JIRA definitions. Urgency - Has the common-sense meaning of priority, not to be confused with the JIRA sense

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Kathey Marsden
Rick Hillegas wrote: Thanks, Kathey. I think this does capture what I mean. I think this is your proposal: Priority - Means "severity" according to the JIRA definitions. Urgency - Has the common-sense meaning of priority, not to be confused with the JIRA sense. Yes, that makes sense , but

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Rick Hillegas wrote: > Thanks, Kathey. I think this does capture what I mean. I think this is > your proposal: > > Priority - Means "severity" according to the JIRA definitions. > > Urgency - Has the common-sense meaning of priority, not to be confused > with the JIRA sense. > > For current 10.

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Kathey. I think this does capture what I mean. I think this is your proposal: Priority - Means "severity" according to the JIRA definitions. Urgency - Has the common-sense meaning of priority, not to be confused with the JIRA sense. For current 10.2 issues: Priority==Blocker => Urge

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Kathey Marsden
Rick Hillegas wrote: How is this field used? Does it take two values (Urgent, NotUrgent) or does it cover a broader spectrum? Here is the forrest definition, which looks closely correlated with with what we are trying to achieve. If I had my druthers I would alter Urgent a bit to include

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: For 10.2, I want to use the priority field to mean what it means in other bug tracking systems: a field which helps engineers figure out what to do next. I would appreciate it if people would use Blocker and Critical to mean, respectively, "

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Kathey, How is this field used? Does it take two values (Urgent, NotUrgent) or does it cover a broader spectrum? This might help us separate the concepts of priority and severity. However, I think there will continue to be confusion as long as a field named "priority" is used to hold the c

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Rick Hillegas wrote: > For 10.2, I want to use the priority field to mean what it means in > other bug tracking systems: a field which helps engineers figure out > what to do next. I would appreciate it if people would use Blocker and > Critical to mean, respectively, "priority 1" and "priority 2"

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Kathey Marsden
Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Kathey, I think that this is a defect in JIRA. If someone knows how to add a severity field to our bug tracker, that would be great. I notice when I take a Jira report there is an URGENCY option, under custom fields with: Blocker Urgent Normal Low But

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Kathey Marsden wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: . I would appreciate it if people would use Blocker and Critical to mean, respectively, "priority 1" and "priority 2". Can you put some words around "Priority 1" and "Priority 2" so I have a better understanding of where to draw the line? How'

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Kathey Marsden
Rick Hillegas wrote: . I would appreciate it if people would use Blocker and Critical to mean, respectively, "priority 1" and "priority 2". Can you put some words around "Priority 1" and "Priority 2" so I have a better understanding of where to draw the line?

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Kathey, I agree that this is a bit confusing. In other bug tracking systems which I have used, there is a distinction between the priority and the severity of a bug. Priority is the field which helps engineers figure out which bug to tackle next. Severity captures the bug's impact on custo

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-26 Thread Kathey Marsden
Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Kathey, If an issue would cause you to vote -1 on the 10.2 release, please mark the issue as Critical or Blocker. I am looking now at the known open regressions and am still struggling with how to set the priority. Here is the current list of 4. https://issues.apa

Fix Version for 10.2 unassigned issues (was Re: remaining 10.2 blocker)

2006-07-25 Thread Kathey Marsden
Kathey Marsden wrote: * Mark Fix Version 10.2 for unassigned issues if we think it is a high value fix that could be fixed in time for the release. * Iteratively adjust Fix Version as we get closer to the release. * Use Blocker/Critical to mark must fix issues. Details here: htt

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Kathey, If an issue would cause you to vote -1 on the 10.2 release, please mark the issue as Critical or Blocker. Kathey Marsden wrote: Kathey Marsden wrote: Alternately we could just not muddy the Jira descriptions of these fields and only mark only mark Fix Version 10.2 for an unas

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-21 Thread Kathey Marsden
Kathey Marsden wrote: Alternately we could just not muddy the Jira descriptions of these fields and only mark only mark Fix Version 10.2 for an unassigned if we would vote -1 on the release if it is not fixed, mark the priorities objectively based on the Jira priority descriptions[2 ]

Re: remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-21 Thread Kathey Marsden
Rick Hillegas wrote: That leaves one last unassigned blocker: I think two new issues DERBY-1569 and DERBY-1564 look potentially *very* problematic and may quite possibly be serious regressions. We also have two known regressions[1].If I would vote -1 on the release if any of these ar

remaining 10.2 blocker

2006-07-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks to David for taking DERBY-1377. That leaves one last unassigned blocker: DERBY-936. DERBY-936 is a Documentation issue. Recently, there was some discussion about how to identify outstanding 10.2 documentation issues. This one is definitely at the top of the list. Regards, -Rick