[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

2013-02-01 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, As every week, we'll have an IRC chat this Saturday at 16:00 UTC on Freenode, channel #libreoffice-design. Topics for discussion: * Easy Hacks * Icons Feel free to add topics. If you can't make it, we'll post the log, so you can bring up anything from the discussion on the list, and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 31/01/2013 22:53, Jay Lozier a écrit : A question about ribbons - Is there any data differentiating the type of user and their preferences? I think this is the core question: who is the user? what population uses the software? how skilled are they? do they use the software at home, at

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 01/02/2013 00:55, Heiko Tietze a écrit : Means of self rated expertise from 1=beginner, 2=average user, to 3=expert (no one wants to be a beginner, but when do you become an expert?) grouped by ribbon vs. toolbar (semantic differential; first value agree totally with ribbons last with

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 01/02/2013 18:31, Jean-Francois Nifenecker a écrit : At a training tart start -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Heiko Tietze
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote Power users don't prefer toolbars: they prefer keyboard shortcuts... My conclusion is that no decision should be drawn based on guessing and personal preferences. It is not that simple with just age and expertise. For instance, even regular, highly experienced

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Jay Lozier
On 02/01/2013 03:00 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote: Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote Power users don't prefer toolbars: they prefer keyboard shortcuts... My conclusion is that no decision should be drawn based on guessing and personal preferences. It is not that simple with just age and expertise. For

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
Hi all, My conclusion is that no decision should be drawn based on guessing and personal preferences. Another aspect of this is that any preferences users might currently hold tell us nothing about how well an interface eventually works for users. All the current study tells us about is the