Re: [libreoffice-design] The purpose of Impress
I would also like to propose tge ability to copy slides from one presentation to another be it power point or impress and preseve all formattings and stylings. This can be seen in office 2010 2013 On 19 Jan 2014 16:38, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Regina, 2014/1/19 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Mirek, Mirek M. schrieb: Hi guys, In order to be able to effectively design and shape the future of LibreOffice modules, it is imperative that we define what these modules are for. Knowing the purpose of each module will help us focus on doing one thing well and avoid counterproductive feature creep. Since, out of all the modules, Impress's purpose might be one of the clearest, let's start with it. My rough draft: The purpose of Impress is to make it simple and quick to craft a slide show to perfectly complement a speech. Please comment on this. complement a speech is not all. There exists other popular usages of impress. For example: (1) Self-repeating (product-) information, for example in shop window, waiting room, or station. (2) Interactive learning arrangement (3) Present pictures from travel or festivals to friends or parishioners (4) Background for memorial or meditation (5) Lecture notes for revision Yes, but it's important design practice to focus on doing one thing excellently, not on doing several things in a mediocre way. That doesn't mean Impress can't or shouldn't be used for other things, but that it should be optimized to do one thing well. Alternative use-cases can be covered unintentionally, by extensions, or by splitting the module into two. Real-life examples of each of these: LibreOffice Writer wasn't designed for editing code. You may use it for that purpose, though. (You definitely shouldn't, there are much, much better tools for the job, but it is possible.) The same goes for using Impress for a picture slideshow -- there are better tools for the job, and that's because those tools were designed specifically for that job. Chrome was designed strictly as a web browser, and it fulfills that role excellently. You may use it as an RSS reader or as a torrent client, though, if you install the right extension. The Mozilla Software Suite, which was a web-browser and an e-mail client combined, was discontinued in favor of the more focused Firefox and Thunderbird. simple and quick needs to be expanded in a further step. For example one requirement is adaptability. What exactly do you mean by adaptability? Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center: display the URL of the recent document selected
How about we have it display the path when we mouse over it? On Sunday 27 October 2013 05:59:16 Teo91 wrote: The path should be displayed in tooltip (see the drop-down list of Open button in 4.1) and in a status bar at the bottom of the dialog IMHO this can lead more UI clutter, there is not enough space to display a full path. the size of button (too small) Absolutely agree: sometimes it's hard to click them, buttons are too small. Their size should be like the previous development layout: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/117080397062943807626/albums/posts/591824 5746644552914?pid=5918245746644552914oid=117080397062943807626 (without the upper panel with logo, it's a good thing that is gone) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Start-Center-display-the-URL-of-the-re cent-document-selected-tp4079964p4080054.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2
I have to say i really like it and its very similar to that of microsoft office and what microsoft works used to be. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I showed him new LibreOffice, he ask what is purpose of these small icons? Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and intuitive! I asked him for better mockup and he did this. http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat
I would give this a miss not sure who else of the design team wants to join the admin team but the admin team has our weekend this weekend of meetings etc. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Yet again, I won't be able to attend this week. Will any of you be there? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat
maintain the server infrastructure of the TDF such as keeping websites online upgrading servers etc On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Oskar Olsson oso...@gmail.com wrote: What does the admin team do? 2013/7/24 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com I am not tryign to discourage the chat im just not sure how many out of the design team are wanting to get involved in the admin team as well. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Oskar Olsson oso...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to attend a meeting, if there is one. We can move it if it's a hard time. /Oskar 2013/7/24 Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com I would give this a miss not sure who else of the design team wants to join the admin team but the admin team has our weekend this weekend of meetings etc. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Yet again, I won't be able to attend this week. Will any of you be there? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] AOO for Android - not worth the download
To be honest, I do not know how to install an app outside of a app store. Google Play and Nook for the new 9 in Nook HD+, while the old 7 inch Mach Trio used Amazon and two others. It is very easy to do outside of the play store you need to get the APK package onto the device then use the file manager to navigate to the apk on the device and install it that way. Regards Jonathan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] RE: [Libreoffice-design] We recommend Libreoffice banner
I like this idea. I +1 as I would like to link to LibreOffice from my website and drive potential new users to this great product :) Regards Jonathan -Original Message- From: Charles-H. Schulz [mailto:charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org] Sent: 24 March 2013 17:57 To: design@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-design] We recommend LibreOffice banner Hello Design/UX team, We (the board, actually) get several requests from small businesses worldwide who are using LibreOffice and who would like to show support other than by donating. These requests specifically highlighted the need to have a We recommend LibreOffice banner/button that can be inserted by them (or anyone else) in their own documents, for instance invoices, quotes, receipts, etc. This is not a footer for emails we're talking about, it's an actual banner to be inserted in a document. Can anyone here work on it? It should look good but there's no need to reinvent the wheel. Also, the logo without the subline should be used. Thank you! -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Thank you
I want to echo a big thanks to all involved, it makes me wish at this point in time i had more time to help infrastructure wise, and im hoping for infrastructure 3.0 that I can be apart of the upgrade as well as a major contributor in terms of bringing the LO infrastructure into a virtual as well as cloud based solution. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, a big thanks also from my side! It was a fantastic, exciting and very successful day, and I am so proud of being a part of this team. It was an impressive experience, and you all rock! :) Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+help@global.**libreoffice.orgwebsite%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/**website/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Press Clippings
WoW thats amazing :D so much publicity :D thats just amazing want to tell everyone keep up the good work and hopefully i can contribute more come summer On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.comwrote: Apologies for spamming all mailing lists, but I wanted to share the success with everyone. I have collected clippings in English, but it looks there are as many in other languages. Although done in a hurry, for the usual reasons, I think that this announcement has been another big step for LibreOffice. ArsTechnica http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/02/libreoffice-goes-for-cleaner-and-leaner-code-base-with-major-update/ Best Ubuntu https://www.bestubuntu.com/libreoffice-4-0-available-for-download.html BetaNews http://betanews.com/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-arrives-get-it-now/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed+-+bn+-+Betanews+Full+Content+Feed+-+BN C|Net http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57568190-93/free-libreoffice-office-suite-beefs-up-with-version-4.0/ CMS Wire http://www.cmswire.com/cms/document-management/libre-office-40-adds-new-features-cms-support-and-greater-compatibility-019524.php Cool As A Geek http://coolasgeek.com/computers/programs/productivity/libreoffice/2013/02/libreoffice-4-0-has-been-released/ Exciting IP http://www.excitingip.com/3494/libre-office-4-0-the-latest-version-of-the-free-office-productivity-suite-released/ G Hacks http://www.ghacks.net/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-changes/ GameSpasm http://www.gamespasm.com/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-wants-to-free-you-from-microsofts-clutches/ H Online http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-4-0-arrives-with-improved-interoperability-and-Personas-1800137.html H Online http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Highlights-of-LibreOffice-4-0-1799408.html Hexus http://hexus.net/tech/news/software/51501-libreoffice-40-now-available/ LifeHacker http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/02/libreoffice-4-0-adds-better-collaboration-and-text-comments/ LifeHacker http://lifehacker.com/5982475/libreoffice-40-adds-better-collaboration-and-text-comments-plus-a-ton-of-other-new-features Liliputing http://liliputing.com/2013/02/libreoffice-hits-version-4-0-adds-an-android-app-for-remote-controlling-presentations.html Linux Today http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/libreoffice-4.0-release-to-widen-divide-with-openoffice-130205143018.html Linux Updates http://linux-updates.org/?tag=libre-office-4-0 Linux User http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/libreoffice-4-0-0-released My Sense Technology http://www.mysensetechnology.com/2013/02/libreoffice-400-is-here-download-and.html#.URQnmlpdduc OMG Ubuntu http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/libreoffice-hits-4-0-adds-unity-integration-persona-theming OS News http://www.osnews.com/story/26768/LibreOffice_4_0_released Parity News http://paritynews.com/software/item/613-the-document-foundation-releases-libreoffice-40 Phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTI5NjA Pinoy Tech News http://www.thepinoytechnews.com/open-source-libreoffice-4-0-0-is-now-out-and-released/?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=open-source-libreoffice-4-0-0-is-now-out-and-released RefuGeeks http://refugeeks.com/RefuGeeks/2013/02/libreoffice-4-released/ SoftPedia http://news.softpedia.com/news/LibreOffice-4-0-0-Finally-Out-Gets-Better-Unity-Integration-and-Microsoft-Publisher-Support-327596.shtml TechCrunch http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-released-just-in-time-for-office-365-refugees/ Ubuntu HQ http://www.ubuntuhq.com/content/libreoffice-hits-40-adds-unity-integration-ampamp-%E2%80%98persona%E2%80%99-theming VentureBeat http://venturebeat.com/2013/02/07/libreoffice-4-0-release/ WebUpd8 http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design]
There is one on linux called basket On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Maximi89 maxim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what do the One Note? OneNote is a notetaking application. It’s useful to take quick notes, minutes, etc., while in a class, conference… It has competitors, and there are alternatives in Linux: Everpad and NeverNote are the most popular. -- Adolfo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] The Tango Save Icon (Cabinet v/ Diskette) Under Discussion Again
I will admit the cabinet i find really confusing as its something that people arent used to. What about replacing the floppy disk with a hard disk image? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: I guess we need to discuss reverting to the diskette icon... What do you think? A diskette in “Real Life™” may be obsolete, but it’s still a current and valid metaphor for saving, much more than a cabinet. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat at 14:00 GMT
Hey Mirek I dont think I am going to be able to make it for this meeting :( Due to me just starting my exams and having another 2 on monday and tuesday. Do you have the logs of last weeks meeting, and will you put this weeks logs up as well? Regards Jonathan Aquilina On May 12, 2012, at 12:31 AM, Mirek M. wrote: Hi everyone, This saturday's IRC chat has been moved up again, so please come at 14:00 GMT. If you can't make it that early, come join at 16:00 GMT -- it's very likely that we'll still be there. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC Chat: GSoC
On 03/05/2012 15:16, Mirek M. wrote: Since we have 4 GSoC whiteboards to go over this Saturday, I was thinking we could move the chat up an hour or two. Alternatively, we could have two chats -- one on Saturday, one on Sunday. What do you think? Please reply saying whether you will attend this weekend and when you'll have time. Keep in mind it's only for this weekend and it won't change the regular time we meet. I will be able to attend this weekend As i would like to discuss the android stuff which is part of GSOC -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress remote
I know there has been discussion as to what programming languages to use, and I would like to add my 2 cents here. If one plans to release this for mobile devices, such as android phones or iphones I would try and keep the language in c/c++ as both platforms can compile those languages. Android uses the NDK to compile code for android devices with out massive rewriting of it into java, and iOS supports c/c++ out of the box. I must say this would be something I would find very useful to have on a smartphone device especially when giving presentations :) Looking forward to testing this out :) On 4/27/12 9:05 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: Hello, Great to see so much awesome ideas already presented. I decided to chip in. I added my thoughts to the Whiteboard as well: https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Design/**Whiteboards/Impress_remotehttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote great, could you set it up like my mock up and split them into different pictures. IMO landscape mode may be better suited, because when you give presentation, you don't want the gadgets to catch the eye, with landscape mode you can hold the mobile close to your body, it might go almost unnoticed, if you don't stare at it. I like the idea, but some may want it in portrait. maybe we could have a lock orientation mode that allows the users to keep it in the orientation that they want. * blanking to black (optionally to white) screen we will probably make different themes for the app. * people may not need the view of current slide at all in case of double monitors or the standing position where presenter could see the main screen good idea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC meeting tomorrow (like every week)
On 4/20/12 3:38 PM, Mirek M. wrote: Just a quick reminder -- IRC meeting tomorrow at 16:00 GMT. Sadly I wont be able to make the meeting tomorrow as I have a friends wedding in the evening. I will post an email with the android information and include information on how to import my project into an existing eclipse workspace. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI update
On 4/18/12 11:29 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello Jonathan, 2012/4/18 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com Hey guys My android project has made it into master and can be found in core/android/experimenta/eagles051387 Well, it made it into the *experimental* branch, don't get too excited :-) Best, Charles. The next thing I am going to do is make a file explorer that will list files of all LO supported formats that can be opened up in read only mode for now. Are we having a meeting this saturday? -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted I understand that totally Charles, I am just letting those guys on this list that are interested in the UI for this port know that they can pull the code if they are programming knowledgable to help me out, not to mention so that the design team isnt out of the loop when it comes to the developments on this project. I already have andrew P on this mailing list whose interested, as well as another individual who is really well versed in android development. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Windows 8 version?
The problem here is man power, alot of the developers on the develop list will tell you man power is the issu and i agree. if you really want this to happen i would grab it by the horns and start working on it On 4/14/12 7:30 PM, Brenden Seibel wrote: +1 On Apr 14, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Alberto Delgado wrote: I don't really think it's bad, I've been using windows 8 for a while now and it works perfectly on desktop, surprisingly, it works great even when having in mind that the system is primarily thought for tablets. I understand that working on other projects right now might damage the ongoing work, but you shouldn't set a Metro UI version aside just because you don't like it. Windows has an enormous amount of users, users that either don't like or are afraid of changing to MacOS or Linux, users that are very likely migrate to W8, also, W8 for tablets is a much more powerful OS than iOS or Android, specially when the user is using it for work (sound like your public, right?), on the other side, the PC version will be receiving a great amount of users soon enough, they won't change their mind just because it doesn't feel right for you. Whichever reason for which you don't like W8 is not enough to forget about the great amount of users the OS has. Again, take it from me, I've been using it on desktop and i can't wait to get a tablet with W8 an OS that is not as closed as Apple's and not fragmented as Google's. Try it out before saying anything about it, the link to the free preview is in my original e-mail. I'm not saying you should start working on it right now, but it IS important and useful to prepare a version for Windows 8 soon. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat + whiteboards
Would you guys think that a white board for the android UI work would be good to have? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Don't worry about it -- I'm happy that you want to help. However, the whiteboard really needs a scope (every whiteboard needs a scope), and thus it requires some input from the team. 2012/4/12 Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com Hello, ... haven't heard anything either. S. Gecko's whiteboard has been hijacked by Andrew anyway. So, I guess, Andrew should deal with either radically cleaning it up or shelving it. Im sorry I thought when I saw Mireks call to change the whiteboards that it was an invitation to start working on them. we can't continue working on the anything(much) till they are done. so I figured that id help out with the process. was not till I did a few and had some questions about them that I thought of asking the person who made the whiteboard. I just want to get us back to the point of working on things. I just picked some that were pretty easy and some that had a lot of the same sections but just needed to be reordered and changed a bit. should I have posted it on the mailing list or something? I do not want to offend anyone, just want to get back to work. things were getting pretty stangnet and did not want to see us go back through another period of not doing anything again. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Windows 8 version?
Android UI update. Currently I am waiting for Tor to review my patches for the Eclipse project I created to be added to master. I am then going to proceed to create a file explorer and figure out how we can create the UI to display a file explorer which will list all files that LO reader can open files to viewe. On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alberto, first: welcome to the design list! On 13 April 2012 11:05, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the developer team plans to support Windows 8 Metro anytime soon, so any work on it would be futile right now. I guess that is true, sadly. Hopefully, the Android tablet port will make LibO more touch-friendly at least – how that touch interface is written is still not fully decided, I think, so it _might_ even be portable to Windows. Also, there's at least a bit of similarity shared between all of the new-fangled touch-friendly platforms, so maybe there are synergies. You might want to have a look at one of the Tablet UI whiteboards that Mirek started: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Tablet_Writer Hope that helps in some way, Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] New member
Mirek is there one already for the android UI work, if not is it possible to get one setup? On 08/04/2012 23:30, Mirek M. wrote: Hi Jean, It's great to have you on board. Right now, we're in the process of converting our old whiteboards [1] to fit the newly created whiteboard template [2], and we're holding off on submitting new ideas until we get these old ones sorted out. You can help if you'd like -- look at the current whiteboards and see which ones you'd like to move over to the new format, then post a message with it so we don't do duplicate work. It would also be great if you could make it for next week's IRC chat, which will most likely be on Saturday at 16:00 GMT. If you'd like to take part in these chats regularly, please add the times and days you tend to be available on this Doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/fyevrffhaqq79vkt. (Ignore the specific dates and be aware of your set timezone.) Also, don't hesitate to create a thread on this mailing list if you feel there's something that we should discuss. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Whiteboard_Template 2012/4/8 Jean-Francois Nifeneckerjean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net All, I'm a recent (and till now silent) subscriber of this list. Before I post a few things about LibO GUI and usage, I'd like to introduce myself: I'm a 56 yo French civil servant using OOo since 2005 when my employer decided to move from MSO. Since then I never looked back and I have always been very pleased with OOo. In a former part of my professional life, I had been an unofficial part-time programmer (Turbo-Pascal, Object Pascal then Delphi). Though this was supposed to be a part-time job, it in fact took most of my time, daily and nightly for nearly 15yrs. I had to stop sometime after I switched job as I couldn't do both. Now, I've been an IT tech (support chain) for 20yrs. As such, among a lot of other things, I help and train my colleagues to our office automation suite of choice (formerly MSO, currently OOo, very soon to be LibO [2012]). As such, I can see everyday how and why my colleagues use the software, what they do right and what they do wrong. To the risk of seeming overly proud, I think I have a broad view of our corporate workflows and I can tell where the local pitfalls are (wrt office automation tools). I have some ideas of what should be changed wrt textprocessor and in which direction some changes would be beneficial to their users. (hence my visit here ;) BTW, I've written a dozen FR how-tos and guides for OOo Writer and I'm involved in some other Free software areas: I'm a member of the local Bordeaux LUG, a contributor to Clonezilla Live doc and also to the OpenStreetMap project. CU soon, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC meeting this Saturday at 16:00 GMT
On 07/04/2012 10:25, Mirek M. wrote: Hi everyone, I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it for the IRC chat today (something important came up). Just in case I don't, here's a list of possible topics to discuss: - Quick question whether anyone has any reservations about the proposed whiteboard template [1]. If not, then we can start to implement it across the whiteboards we already have. - Individual whiteboards: Look at each current whiteboard, discuss it, and try to tweak it to fit our new whiteboard template. - On that note, I recently put up a whiteboard for a file manager [2], which is relevant since a developer is showing interest in developing a prototype for a basic file manager, though it could also be useful for replacing the main LibreOffice application. - Icon testing: If we'd like to test our icons, perhaps someone should set up a really basic Android app for the purpose? These are just suggestions -- feel free to talk about anything you deem important. For the moment this last point i have a basic android app, but its not integrated into the master branch Its basically right now a list of the apps that we can cfhoose to run, but I can easily rework that as needed. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Mirek2#Tentative_Whiteboard_Template [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Manager -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI rework
On 07/04/2012 12:38, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: Hi Jonathan, Kévin, Agreed, there are so many ways that we could take this i think for now we just keep it simple and move forward with the work. then adapt and recode as necessary. I guess the best would be just having something like the start center and then if the user taps on open a file, show her a simple folder view. However, it would really be a good start if you could show us how far you are with your current idea with some screenshots/a functional prototype etc. Else, we're just having discussions in a vacuum. Astron. I have a git hub repository which i need to make some modifications so that a few things are ignored in the repository and not included. https://github.com/eagles051387/LibreOffice-Android-UI- Hopefully I can work a bit on it this evening. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI rework
Astron I forgot to add that is a simple start center which isnt hooked into any of the core LO code. On 07/04/2012 12:38, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: Hi Jonathan, Kévin, Agreed, there are so many ways that we could take this i think for now we just keep it simple and move forward with the work. then adapt and recode as necessary. I guess the best would be just having something like the start center and then if the user taps on open a file, show her a simple folder view. However, it would really be a good start if you could show us how far you are with your current idea with some screenshots/a functional prototype etc. Else, we're just having discussions in a vacuum. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Meeting
What time is the meeting CET time and in what channel? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI rework
On 06/04/2012 18:12, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Hi Jonathan I'm not sure it can be done quickly without a lot of memory. Then I'm not a programmer so we should ask one. Else, I think there is the problem of where is my file. For me, your solution is great but as an optional search, I think people want to know, and organize their files, so they need either an easy way to do this, or a complete file explorer. Kévin With my idea we could take it a step further and add a path to the file list to show the user where the file is stored. I am thinking out side the box here, since we dont want to be like other office suites which are available, but one that provides something the others would want to follow suite and adopt. 2012/4/3 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com After the discussions yesterday and looking at some already existing apps, I think i have developed a plan to move forward with being able to read and just open documents for starters. I was thinking instead of providing the user with the whole Directory tree, what do you guys think of giving a file explorer, but that would search the system and just display all documents and file formats that can be opened by LO? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI rework
On 06/04/2012 18:42, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Yes having the path can be a good solution. What could be done is to have your solution almost as actually, and maybe when a file is selected, showing its path on the top of the window (Something like that). Kévin Or a little text box on the bottom I think i need to get my android project into master branch then proceed from there. 2012/4/6 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com On 06/04/2012 18:12, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Hi Jonathan I'm not sure it can be done quickly without a lot of memory. Then I'm not a programmer so we should ask one. Else, I think there is the problem of where is my file. For me, your solution is great but as an optional search, I think people want to know, and organize their files, so they need either an easy way to do this, or a complete file explorer. Kévin With my idea we could take it a step further and add a path to the file list to show the user where the file is stored. I am thinking out side the box here, since we dont want to be like other office suites which are available, but one that provides something the others would want to follow suite and adopt. 2012/4/3 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051387@gmail.**comeagles051...@gmail.com After the discussions yesterday and looking at some already existing apps, I think i have developed a plan to move forward with being able to read and just open documents for starters. I was thinking instead of providing the user with the whole Directory tree, what do you guys think of giving a file explorer, but that would search the system and just display all documents and file formats that can be opened by LO? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffi** ce.orghttp://libreoffice.orgdesign%2Bhelp@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%252bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-* ***http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.**libreoffice.org/get-help/** mailing-lists/how-to-**unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundati**on.org/**http://documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoff**ice.org/global/design/http://libreoffice.org/global/design/ http://**listarchives.libreoffice.org/**global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI rework
On 06/04/2012 18:54, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Yes it could to. Maybe it didn't even need to show the location if you don't ask it (having it in a file property dialog maybe) Agreed, there are so many ways that we could take this i think for now we just keep it simple and move forward with the work. then adapt and recode as necessary. 2012/4/6 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com On 06/04/2012 18:42, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Yes having the path can be a good solution. What could be done is to have your solution almost as actually, and maybe when a file is selected, showing its path on the top of the window (Something like that). Kévin Or a little text box on the bottom I think i need to get my android project into master branch then proceed from there. 2012/4/6 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051387@gmail.**comeagles051...@gmail.com On 06/04/2012 18:12, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Hi Jonathan I'm not sure it can be done quickly without a lot of memory. Then I'm not a programmer so we should ask one. Else, I think there is the problem of where is my file. For me, your solution is great but as an optional search, I think people want to know, and organize their files, so they need either an easy way to do this, or a complete file explorer. Kévin With my idea we could take it a step further and add a path to the file list to show the user where the file is stored. I am thinking out side the box here, since we dont want to be like other office suites which are available, but one that provides something the others would want to follow suite and adopt. 2012/4/3 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051387@gmail.com eagles051...@gmail.com After the discussions yesterday and looking at some already existing apps, I think i have developed a plan to move forward with being able to read and just open documents for starters. I was thinking instead of providing the user with the whole Directory tree, what do you guys think of giving a file explorer, but that would search the system and just display all documents and file formats that can be opened by LO? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.libreoffi** ce.orghttp://libreoffice.org**design%2Bhelp@global.**libreo** ffice.orghttp://libreoffice.orgdesign%252Bhelp@** global.libreoffice.orgdesign%25252bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how- **to-*http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-* ***http://www.libreoffice.**org/**get-help/mailing-lists/**how-to-**http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.**libr**eoffice.org/get-help/**http://libreoffice.org/get-help/** mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/http://www.** libreoffice.org/get-help/**mailing-lists/how-to-**unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundati**on.org/** ht**tp://documentfoundation.org/**http://documentfoundation.org/** ** Netiquettehttp://wiki.**docum**entfoundation.org/**Netiquettehttp://documentfoundation.org/**Netiquette **http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoff**ice.org/global/** design/http://ice.org/global/design/http://libreoffice.** org/global/design/http://libreoffice.org/global/design/ http://**listarchives.**libreoffice.org/**global/**design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/**global/design/ http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ ** All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffi** ce.orghttp://libreoffice.orgdesign%2Bhelp@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%252bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-* ***http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.**libreoffice.org/get-help/** mailing-lists/how-to-**unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundati**on.org/**http://documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoff**ice.org/global/design/http://libreoffice.org/global/design/ http://**listarchives.libreoffice.org/**global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
I had looked at think free office, which I know doesnt support ODF but I am using it more for the UI look. What I noted is that it displays all the directories in ones devices. I was thinking instead of doing that, When loading it would some how index the location of all files and just display all the files that the user can open with the program, with icons just as you mentioned to show which program will open them. On 4/4/12 3:12 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: What do you mean by directory tree? Do you mean that view where you see the icon of the document, doc name, when created, what type, and other info all in one line? Because I hate that view in the desktop. It's fine to offer that for the people who want it for some reason. But the default view shoud be large document previews with the type of doc icon in one of the corners, and the name under it. On Apr 3, 2012 1:40 PM, Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher this is userful, but in a way you are jumping the gun here. Tor and I discussed yesterday on a good place to start, and I agree with him at this point its best to get something to where we can just open the files. As in my original email I am wondering if its worth making it easy for the users to open the files by just providing them with a list of all files that can be opened by LO instead of a file explorer that displays the entire directory tree. On 03/04/2012 19:37, Christopher Stark wrote: Hi, in November I sent this email with a link several suggestions concerning a Android UI: http://www.christopherstark.**de/extern/LO-Android/Android_**LO.htmlhttp://www.christopherstark.de/extern/LO-Android/Android_LO.html Maybe it helps for the current discussion. best regards Christopher Original Message Subject:Suggestions for an Android User Interface Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:04:44 +0100 From: Christopher Starkchristopherst...@gmx.de To: design@global.libreoffice.org Hi, I would like to make some suggestions for an Adroid UI of LibreOffice: http://www.christopherstark.**de/extern/LO-Android/Android_**LO.htmlhttp://www.christopherstark.de/extern/LO-Android/Android_LO.html Maybe I can put this into the LO-Wiki, but I'm not sure if that works with regular html-code... best regards Christopher -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
Charles I have to disagree, I feel that a prototype is the best way to go in regards to moving this project forward, I understand that its a big task and very far from being over. I think a working prototype would allow us to actually have a testing platform in this case a simple UI that can then be refined and improved. Tor on the developers list at this point suggested getting a UI which will open files only at this point, and I think its a good start, and then slowly we can implement new UI's for the various parts of LO and that would be where what you mentioned should be carefully considered. On 4/4/12 9:16 AM, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: Hello there, Shameless plug from my side: I think that Jonathan might be putting the carriage before the horses here , to use an old french word. First, let's all remember that the porting work to Android is far from being over. In fact it's hardly started. Second, there has been an exploratory design job that's been started here, by the UX/Design team, as a set of concepts for a future tablet, touch-based interface, and I think we may first want to continue refining and exploring that path before developing an actual interface. Simply put: Jonathan's work is rather premature. We have nothing to base its interface on, and it might be better to keep the UX/Design team active on existing tasks and to-dos rather than having its efforts spent in something that cannot / will not work for a long time. Best, Charles. Le mercredi 04 avril 2012 à 08:01 +0200, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit : I had looked at think free office, which I know doesnt support ODF but I am using it more for the UI look. What I noted is that it displays all the directories in ones devices. I was thinking instead of doing that, When loading it would some how index the location of all files and just display all the files that the user can open with the program, with icons just as you mentioned to show which program will open them. On 4/4/12 3:12 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: What do you mean by directory tree? Do you mean that view where you see the icon of the document, doc name, when created, what type, and other info all in one line? Because I hate that view in the desktop. It's fine to offer that for the people who want it for some reason. But the default view shoud be large document previews with the type of doc icon in one of the corners, and the name under it. On Apr 3, 2012 1:40 PM, Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher this is userful, but in a way you are jumping the gun here. Tor and I discussed yesterday on a good place to start, and I agree with him at this point its best to get something to where we can just open the files. As in my original email I am wondering if its worth making it easy for the users to open the files by just providing them with a list of all files that can be opened by LO instead of a file explorer that displays the entire directory tree. On 03/04/2012 19:37, Christopher Stark wrote: Hi, in November I sent this email with a link several suggestions concerning a Android UI: http://www.christopherstark.**de/extern/LO-Android/Android_**LO.htmlhttp://www.christopherstark.de/extern/LO-Android/Android_LO.html Maybe it helps for the current discussion. best regards Christopher Original Message Subject:Suggestions for an Android User Interface Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:04:44 +0100 From: Christopher Starkchristopherst...@gmx.de To: design@global.libreoffice.org Hi, I would like to make some suggestions for an Adroid UI of LibreOffice: http://www.christopherstark.**de/extern/LO-Android/Android_**LO.htmlhttp://www.christopherstark.de/extern/LO-Android/Android_LO.html Maybe I can put this into the LO-Wiki, but I'm not sure if that works with regular html-code... best regards Christopher -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquettehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
Understandable. I think from a code compilation standpoint we are at a point where someone has to grab this by the horns and move it forward which is what I am hoping to do. I have my android project made available on github for anyone that wants it to help me out, and im more then willing to provide the link. On 4/4/12 9:32 AM, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: Jonathan, We don't have a prototype at this stage. We want to have something where several contributors have had a shot, and not something that was designed by one guy somewhere with his own UI choices. Don't get me wrong: I appreciate your enthusiasm, but method is required and we don't want to confuse everyone with labeling this the prototype of LibreOffice on Android. Because at this stage it really isn't. Best, -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
I understand that its not an LO project, but I am working on it to get it to the point where i can get it integrated into the master branch. On 4/4/12 9:38 AM, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: You can grab anything you want by the horns. But if your project is on github I think it also shows that it's not LibreOffice on Android. Otherwise it'd be hosted here. More seriously though: There are countless to-dos, bugfixes, large or small work that needs to be done all around the code and the project. I'm not suggesting that there are better use of your time, but well, you get my point :-) . Best, -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Android UI rework
After the discussions yesterday and looking at some already existing apps, I think i have developed a plan to move forward with being able to read and just open documents for starters. I was thinking instead of providing the user with the whole Directory tree, what do you guys think of giving a file explorer, but that would search the system and just display all documents and file formats that can be opened by LO? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
Christopher this is userful, but in a way you are jumping the gun here. Tor and I discussed yesterday on a good place to start, and I agree with him at this point its best to get something to where we can just open the files. As in my original email I am wondering if its worth making it easy for the users to open the files by just providing them with a list of all files that can be opened by LO instead of a file explorer that displays the entire directory tree. On 03/04/2012 19:37, Christopher Stark wrote: Hi, in November I sent this email with a link several suggestions concerning a Android UI: http://www.christopherstark.de/extern/LO-Android/Android_LO.html Maybe it helps for the current discussion. best regards Christopher Original Message Subject:Suggestions for an Android User Interface Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:04:44 +0100 From: Christopher Starkchristopherst...@gmx.de To: design@global.libreoffice.org Hi, I would like to make some suggestions for an Adroid UI of LibreOffice: http://www.christopherstark.de/extern/LO-Android/Android_LO.html Maybe I can put this into the LO-Wiki, but I'm not sure if that works with regular html-code... best regards Christopher -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Android UI work
I just got an email from Charles about you guys working on android specifications for what you would like in the UI. I have been communicating with Tor on the developers list as to how to go about getting what I have so far integrated into version control. Tor suggested we start with getting a UI together that works with MIME types to be able to open the files. Is this a good way to start? I have installed thinkfree office on my device so I have a clearer understanding of what I would need to do to move forward with reading files. Are the specifications listed anywhere so I can start following them? Regards Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
On 02/04/2012 16:10, Mirek M. wrote: 2012/4/2 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com I just got an email from Charles about you guys working on android specifications for what you would like in the UI. I have been communicating with Tor on the developers list as to how to go about getting what I have so far integrated into version control. Tor suggested we start with getting a UI together that works with MIME types to be able to open the files. Is this a good way to start? I have installed thinkfree office on my device so I have a clearer understanding of what I would need to do to move forward with reading files. Are the specifications listed anywhere so I can start following them? Hi Jonathan, You mean the file manager, right? No specs yet, though I started a whiteboard for this purpose [1]. It's not tablet-only, since a file manager would be helpful for the desktop version as well (especially since LibO is slowly getting into collaboration). It'd be helpful to know the scope from a development perspective. For example, should the design consider synchronization features (e.g. sync/collaboration for Google Docs) or is it too early for that? A while ago I made a mockup for what a file browser could look like on a tablet [2] -- maybe that could be of use to you? [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Manager [2] http://clickortap.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/files1.png Hey Mirek I already started with my own cocept of the start center which is available on the pc versions, I am not sure if thats necessary or not. Do you think that would be a feature users would like? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
I see a flaw here. From the little development work I have done for games on iOS, and im not sure if its the same on android but I would not doubt that it would be, but usually the resolution and the app would upscale to the larger screen size. Jovan (seems very knowledgable in regards to android development) about is this assumption correct? Regards On 02/04/2012 16:05, Alexander Wilms wrote: Hi Jonathan, that sounds great! Here is a whiteboard regarding the design of a LibO tablet UI: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Insert_bar.png Hope that helps Alex Am 02.04.2012 14:30, schrieb Jonathan Aquilina: I just got an email from Charles about you guys working on android specifications for what you would like in the UI. I have been communicating with Tor on the developers list as to how to go about getting what I have so far integrated into version control. Tor suggested we start with getting a UI together that works with MIME types to be able to open the files. Is this a good way to start? I have installed thinkfree office on my device so I have a clearer understanding of what I would need to do to move forward with reading files. Are the specifications listed anywhere so I can start following them? Regards Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work
On 02/04/2012 19:49, Mirek M. wrote: 2012/4/2 Jonathan Aquilinaeagles051...@gmail.com I see a flaw here. From the little development work I have done for games on iOS, and im not sure if its the same on android but I would not doubt that it would be, but usually the resolution and the app would upscale to the larger screen size. What exactly do you mean? Android is quite scalable -- the app's interface adjusts to the resolution. For example, if you have multiple panes, you can choose from a number of ways to display them when they can't all fit [1]. The action bar also adjusts to various orientations and screen sizes. [2] The Devices and Displays part of the Android Design site [3] is a nice introduction to the way Android scales. [1] http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/multi-pane-layouts.html [2] http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html [3] http://developer.android.com/design/style/devices-displays.html What i mean is on mac iOS devices if you have an older device with a lower resolution if its set to the resolution for that older device any newer devices that operate with a higher resolution it automatically upscales the resolution, does android do the same as well can it down scale for resolutions on older devices or smaller devices? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
