Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all, I seem to have missed this mail ... Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2011, 02:25 +0200 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: > Hi Jay, all, > > planas schrieb: > > Bernard > > > > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:13 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > > >> [...] > >> > >> But we should avoid to discuss details like gra

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-28 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Jay, all, planas schrieb: Bernard On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:13 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...] But we should avoid to discuss details like graphical approach, menu positioning and so on: The first thing to do is defining the functionality - form will follow function when we really kn

RE : Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-27 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Http://wiki.documentfoundation.org :-) Le 27 mai 2011, 1:06 AM, "Phil Jackson" a écrit : Hi JL Why don't you make a start then and see what it takes to get a sample google docs form working. Then email us with the link. As they say, the start of a 100 mile journey starts with a single step! C

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread gael.lori...@laposte.net
Hi all, There's another GUI "function" that I find really smart in MS Office : when you select some text, a box appears next to your mouse cursor which enables you to change the text's formatting (color, size, boldness, font, etc). Doing so prevents the user to go reach the top side of the screen

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread Phil Jackson
Hi JL Why don't you make a start then and see what it takes to get a sample google docs form working. Then email us with the link. As they say, the start of a 100 mile journey starts with a single step! Cheers Phil On 5/27/2011 10:42 AM, jlopez777 wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Ph

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread jlopez777
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Phil Jackson wrote: > Hi JL > > We need to have some sort of structured approach. So any suggestions are > welcome - wiki or whatever. > I think a wiki could work, I can get one up. > > Is there some sort of tool we can use to poll members easily so we can get

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread planas
Bernard On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:13 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Hi all, > > sorry for stepping in here so late, especially as this topic has been > discussed over and over again in OOo UX (Renaissance) and here > in LibreOffice too. > > Irrelevant of the fact that some people understand t

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread Phil Jackson
Hi JL We need to have some sort of structured approach. So any suggestions are welcome - wiki or whatever. Is there some sort of tool we can use to poll members easily so we can get an accurate idea of what ideas are popular and what are not? We can make this a really democratic approach i

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread jlopez777
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/a/aa/Project_Renaissance_Impress_OOoCon2010.pdf Here you find some data about how the average user uses openoffice, this was insightful for me looking into the issue as person who like to see numbers behind decisions. Thanks for the suggestion again on

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread jlopez777
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Phil Jackson wrote: > Hi Scott > > You're right on target about the ineffective vertical space that MS allows > for and I like some of your sample screens. The vertical Word menu is a very > clear way of presenting options without any ambiguity. > > I'd like to wo

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread Phil Jackson
Hi Scott You're right on target about the ineffective vertical space that MS allows for and I like some of your sample screens. The vertical Word menu is a very clear way of presenting options without any ambiguity. I'd like to work more closely with you on these types of design decisions. H

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread Scott Pledger
Hey all! Sorry its been so long!! This is a topic that I've put a lot of thought into and one which I would love to work both the design and implementation sides of. Personally, I have an extreme dislike of the way that MS Office handles its ribbon layout. When you combine the Office 2011 ribbon

[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

2011-05-26 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi all, sorry for stepping in here so late, especially as this topic has been discussed over and over again in OOo UX (Renaissance) and here in LibreOffice too. Irrelevant of the fact that some people understand the word "ribbon" as a red flag they start to rant against, we neither copy any comp