I’d like for this occasion that people don’t put a huge stupid digit in
place of our logo (why the heck did we put such an emphasis on a
stupid-looking “5”?)
El dia 20/03/2017 4:39 p. m., "Heiko Tietze"
va escriure:
> End of March granted. At least I got mail with this passage :-).
>
> On 03/20/
Why is it that you’re saying in the pad that changing the motif is
“missing a clear purpose”? The purpose is obvious to me. And for
better or worse, we’ve set a precedent with changing the branding for
every major version bump—it’d be weird and confusing if we maintained
the current branding (minus
2017-06-01 19:38 GMT+00:00 Heiko Tietze :
> On 01.06.2017 21:33, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote:
>> Why is it that you’re saying in the pad that changing the motif is
>> “missing a clear purpose”?
>
> https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/branding-libreoffice-6-0/175/7
Pedro, I think you’ve been here enough time to realize that, as many
similar libre software projects, this project is volunteer-driven, and
that waving around your pet bugs without giving some support
(financial or otherwise) yourself is borderline offensive for those
who are contributing their fre
2018-04-25 5:10 GMT-05:00 Regina Henschel :
> Please do not use OOXML for the Microsoft Versions of the format. That would
> be confusing. OOXML should only be used for strict, ISO-standardized Office
> Open XML.
How exactly is this confusing? We already denote the ISO-standardized
version of OOXM
[...]
> > * Bundle the new "EB Garamond" font with LibreOffice
I would really prefer that we didn’t add it if there are no reasons
beyond document compatibility with proprietary office applications.
Let us remind ourselves that we bundle fonts that are really necessary
for language support and do
Bug reports go to Bugzilla.
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I wish we stopped featuring numbers in our artwork altogether. It's as if
Google Chrome used different artwork in every single new release.
El dom., 8 dic. 2019 6:05 PM, Franklin Weng
escribió:
>
> Heiko Tietze 於 2019/11/20 下午5:06 寫道:
> > Some food for thought: Seven is a prime number, seen as a
Useless to base a new identity in just adding text. That won't work in
small sizes, like the system dock or taskbar, and in general is the
very opposite of a flexible visual identity.
So no.
What we want to work on is in this visual proposal by one of our
talented Indonesian contributors:
https://
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:01 AM Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
wrote:
> What we want to work on is in this visual proposal by one of our
> talented Indonesian contributors:
> https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/37942
My personal hope is that TDF allocates something to fund Bayu's work
so that
I think the explanatory labels are great! Just be sure that all UI copy
follows the guidelines (w.r.t. sentence- vs. Title-case, acronym
capitalization and curly apostrophes) at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/UIWriting
I’d ditch the colon at the end of the heading label “Lan
Just a little observation: I think the question "Would you like to
associate Office files (doc, [...])" needs to be simplified with a
checkbox, removing the (*) Yes ( ) No. Something like:
[x] Associate document files with LibreOffice
(Note that I also removed the "Office files" part, because th
Monochrome icons are the way to go. Look[1], even Microsoft has
introduced them into Visual Studio (a toolbar-based UI app) and it
lloks just great.
[1]:
http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-49-52-metablogapi/1464.image3_5F00_0ECF28C7.png
Why abandon the classic symbol paradigm? I don’t think that the
proposed symbols are recognizable in a glance anymore.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I've put up a design process on the wiki page (@
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_i
I'd prefer lowercase icons, because they're more recognizable in a
glance as I already said in the wiki page. Three uppercase "A"s can be
easily confused.
The Humanity (and Gnome) icon themes included in Ubuntu use lowercase,
you can check apps like Inkscape or Abiword to see that.
BTW, I don't q
OK, seems to win uppercase. Please try to use a font that makes the
bold and italic icons different enough to be recognised, I'd recommend
a black weight for the bold icon and a true, single-story italic for
the other icon (this is the reason why I don't like Vegur, it is
incomplete, does not have
I also don’t think that is necessary to include LibreOffice’s logo
into the New Document icon.
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Never say never! I also think that Metro UI implementation in Windows
8 is pretty bad, but don’t discard it per se!
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> I second Christopher. The metro UI is terrible and will fail. If micr$oft
> does not change back or bring more of what they
Hello,
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the LibreOffice conference will be held this autumn in Berlin. We need a
> logo for this conference, that could be used on the website and other
> marketing material. The proposals for our first LibreOffice conference
> i
I like your concept a lot, but it currently looks too childish with
all these strong shadows and thick borders. Something more subtle
would be fine. Also, I don’t understand why the apps have that big
icon in the top left corner. It is meant to be a button? If so, what
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I’ve submitted my first draft, but I made it in GIMP. Why is SVG
required, if not to make raster images from it? I can upload my source
.xcf, though, and later I can redo it in Inkscape.
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Nevermind, I’ve redone my design in SVG and uploaded the Inkscape source file.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
wrote:
> I’ve submitted my first draft, but I made it in GIMP. Why is SVG
> required, if not to make raster images from it? I can upload my source
> .xc
I think you're spoiling a few things regarding to fonts :) :
> 2. The Liberation Fonts.
>
> (Yes I know, it's preferable to open another thread as the subject changes
> but it is closely tied).
>
> First of all, you have to know that Liberation fonts are just free "copy" of
> MS fonts shipped with
The Design team doesn't even use Vegur for LibreOffice logos (LibO
Conference set in some Helvetica clone, for example...)
Italo's right: the limited character set in Vegur makes it unsuitable
fo shipping, because it cannot be used for writing in languages other
than English. That's why I don't un
Oh, that would be really awesome! =) The font would need to be open
source of course.
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Paolo Barattini
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I am new to this endeavour
>
> I have a close friend that has 40 years of font design experience.
>
> I could ask him to produce a "Libreoffic
Open Sans is Google's font (and now Motorola's as well, I think), used
by many other projects (elementary, for example, comes to my mind in
this moment), and is kind of generic. Have anyone considered Source
Sans?
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Stefan Knorr wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> really nice! Her
MS Office 2010 also have infobars, for example, in Access and when
viewing documents in safe mode:
http://www.edutechnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/image8.png
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Alexander Wilms
wrote:
> Sounds great :) Do you know whether there's an equivalent for KDE, Mac
> OS
Well, where is he? Has he sent an email to this list?
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
wrote:
> Well, I would hope this designer would join our team:
> http://www.iloveubuntu.net/creative-developer-presents-interesting-libreoffice-interface-concept-sustained-gtk-3-based-real
>
>
I agree, the deletion alert is unnecessary. If the user wants to
recover the header, they should be able to do so by using the “Undo”
functionality.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (not sure whether this goes to design or ux, so I'm flooding both :)
>
I’m not sure, isn’t that a bit too much political? Don’t think it’s
appropriate for the official G+ page. Also, it’s kind of unrelated to
design.
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> What do you think about trying to make the tag #WeWantODFSupport trend on
> Google+?
>
+10
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Sean White wrote:
> Do we have to make the large icons default to bring in the new design
> scheme. It doesn't add any value and with the current layout of toolbars
> actually make the window look ugly on all systems bar Gnome 3 where
> EV
>> Someone in the issue says that it's very unusual in Mac.
>> That is something I've no idea about.
>> Others?
>
>
> That's true.
> We could forego the icons on the Mac, then, as they also have command
> search, thus there's less need to look through the menus efficiently.
Ubuntu has the HUD. No
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
wrote:
> I am sorry... but why is it relevant? LibreOffice is the community. There's
> no LibreOffice and the community.
I think he meant the Foundation and the community. These are not the
same, and shouldn't have the same logo.
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> But why? Isn't the foundation supposed to represent the community? :-)
OK, let's say the Foundation and the community are one thing, and
LibreOffice other thing (the "Product"). Why should the first thing
share its logo with the latter? :)
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On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Stefan Knorr wrote:
> Does this look better/worse? Is it understandable? Something missing/too
> much?
It's decent. I can imagine it being in Google Play and in a phone.
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>
> Issue: LibreOffice implements additional menus by default as usually
> temporary tool bars instead of separate windows.
>
> Therefore you can open the search bar by choosing “Edit -> Find” or pressing
> “STRG + F” but there is no intuitiv
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron)
wrote:
> I guess we need to discuss reverting to the diskette icon... What do you
> think?
A diskette in “Real Life™” may be obsolete, but it’s still a current
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On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Alexander Wilms
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> Hi everyone,
>
> on the Deviantart page of Harvey Cabaguio someone mentioned an old design
> submission for the original LibreOffice brand:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/5/5f/AndyFitzsimon_ArtworkProposal_splashes.png
>
> It
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> I agree with you that with professional people personas may take a back seat
> to functionality, but to the other larger group who use our software and the
> younger set, functionality includes the look and feel of their software as
> if defines
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:
> LOL! The idea is to do a "re-branding" and be creative without even changing
> colours or the position of elements?
> You can exclude my proposal. As I said, I'm not a designer so I couldn't
> care less.
You shouldn't be angry (¡el que se enoja pie
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
wrote:
> Proposal by Maxim Darák:
> Start screen can't be modified this way (it's past UI freeze)
At least the splash screen can be used unmodified? I quite liked it.
And it would be easy to adapt the start center image to the current
UI.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> Here's what the proposed branding looks like in use:
> https://plus.google.com/photos/102673546895803839652/albums/5838256472940469953
I think it looks great. It's simpler and effective. There's room for
improvement, of course, but I don't get wh
Honestly, wth with this voting system? :)
+1: Mateus.m.luna "Clear_Full_Official" (make colors more vivid, please)
+1: G Sparks (I like the typographic motif as well, typeface choice
could be improved)
+1: Maxim Darák (almost perfect)
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Maximi89 wrote:
> Hi, what do the One Note?
OneNote is a notetaking application. It’s useful to take quick notes,
minutes, etc., while in a class, conference… It has competitors, and
there are alternatives in Linux: Everpad and NeverNote are the most
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> What do you think?
I think it’s very original. Nice idea!
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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Also, unless I am mistaken, it may not support all languages ... maybe
> someone from design could chime in on this?
Vegur was updated to support more languages, see the designer's
homepage at dotcolon.net (Chinese). LibreOffice uses an old versi
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> As Alex doesn't have the time to ready his proposal for implementation,
> we're going with Maxim Darak's green proposal.
I agree with the results of the poll. I still think that the color
could be a little more lively, but it looks good nonethele
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> What do you think?
I have nothing more to add apart from what Axel points out. Thanks for
the SVG by the way, I was about to create a store promo banner for the
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> Looks excellent! Let's ship this.
> Astron or Thorsten, could you take care of commiting this?
Good work eeveryone!
Thorsten, bear with me a little, I just started to create the app
banner with this new icon! Once I finish it, I'll send it to yo
Hi Thorsten, all, how about this?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Impress_remote_1.png
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2013/2/24 Issa Alkurtass :
> Hello Adolfo,
>
> Could you try using LibreOffice text from the logo? It might look better :)
Done, I uploaded a new version of the file, re-check the previous URL.
Thanks for pointing that out!
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Issa Alkurtass wrote:
> Adolfo please upload the svg to
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements
I’ll have to redo it in Inkscape then, as I made it in a raster
editor. Once I have it, I’ll upload it to the wiki.
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On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Wim Schwerdtner
wrote:
> […] I really wonder, that the developers of LO concentrate on
> many minor issues like bullet points in the note section, but
> neglect the central ones that are neccessary to use LO at all. […]
Everyone thinks their bug is more important t
2013/2/28 Issa Alkurtass :
> No need to redo it, I think the xcf file will suffice :)
I uploaded a basic SVG to
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Impress_remote_source.svg, on
which only the lettering can be edited, as I still used my raster
background. I’ll upload a proper SVG (entirely ma
2013/3/5 Issa Alkurtass :
> True but I've never seen them used on our wiki so I didn't know they were
> used until now.
We should use them. And indent every comment with : and sign them with
—. That’s a good practice to teach to everyone, IMHO :-)
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Issa Alkurtass wrote:
> I didn't know where to add it, but discussions of the icons themselves should
> go on the wiki page somewhere.
MediaWiki developers thought of that, and created the talk pages. :-)
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Emir Yâsin SARI wrote:
> Considering that current start center lacks the functionality of showing
> recent document previews, and uses pretty much excess screen space (in most
> cases users mostly maximise the start center window), I thought it would be
> a cool id
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Stefan Knorr wrote:
> [...] (The problem is that the colours we
> have on our website now have nothing to do with the defined
> LibreOffice colours – a situation which isn't great, but well, it has
> arisen – partly because the new website was designed without any
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
wrote:
> The question I have will be how much will LO 4.x.x need to be changed to
> deal with a URL change for the personalization URL access for the needed
> Persona files?
I think you need to poke Kendy in the development list, AFAIK ther
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Stefan Knorr wrote:
> Improvements welcome. :)
Hey Astron, I hope you don't mind adding Spanish and Catalan:
EN / ES / CA
Created with / Creado con / Creat amb
We use / Nosotros usamos / Nosaltres usem
I use / Yo uso / Jo ús
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Mariano Gaudiners
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> What license i must use ?
> ¿ LGPL version 3.0 ?
> So , you can use and modify this icons for LibreOffice .
IANAL but I think you can’t relicense to LGPL something that was
derived from an GPL work. I think you should ask
Hi everyone,
The Column and Row headers in any Calc spreadsheet look very “Windows
Vista”: they have a prominent faux bevel/reflection, which does not
fit with our mostly flat UI. Compare LibreOffice headers versus Office
2013 headers (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=74552 and
https
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> Dysfunctional webcrap resembling that "Google Apps" garbage.
I woulnd’t expect to take your point seriously, because your short
message only consisted of using harsh words to try to diminish that UI
concept, instead of providing a solid r
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Oskar Olsson wrote:
> Also, I have never use mailing lists before. Are there any guidelines on
> how to use them? I tried to respond to mails I got but I don't know how
> many people I am actually "talking" to.
Of course: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiqu
I'm super excited for this change, Mirek! =)
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Mirek wrote:
> Could we please use elementary's HIG [1], which has the GNOME
> HIG as back-up, as our go-to HIG from now on?
In your opinion, what are the main benefits that this change may bring
to LibreOffice? I’m not sure if elementary HIG completely fits
LibreOffice – for instance, I don’t com
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> * The "Create" label should be clearly set apart from clickable buttons. I
> suggest making it uppercase and bold.
I disagree with this one. I hate SCREAMING in UIs (and exclamation
marks as well, BTW). We shouldn’t follow Office/Visual Studio 20
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mirek M. wrote:
> See
> http://www.essentialmac.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Finder.jpg
> for example. Do the headers in the sidebar scream, in your opinion?
IMHO it’s unnecessary highlighting. I mean, when giving instructions
you’d say “… go to
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Mirek M. wrote:
> * At smaller sizes, the thumbnails are much harder to make out. Take a look
I don't think there's an actual need to "make out" things. You have
the name of the document as well, don't you? And for anything bigger
you can open a separate window (l
Sorry for contradicting you, but I absolutely hate those huge
previews, these are so inefficient, wasting an insane amount of space
(I do not own a big monitor, y'know). Shouldn't these adapt to smaller
screens, and netbooks?
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On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Stefan Knorr wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> so, I previously wrote something about wanting all-Vegur logos. I wanted
> to try too... and it turns out, the numbers of that font looks sort of
> bad...
>
I loved Eleonora’s logo, which was the only one that looked
professional:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Lucio Gómez wrote:
> Hello. I'm trying to learn a little about the VCL library. Someone could
> give me a small example of how to use, or an example of how to make a
> buttonor a box.
You seem to think that VCL is like Qt. It is not. And this is not the
correct m
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Joel Madero wrote:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
>
> That's the list you want.
But in any case, Lucio, if you just want to create a mockup of a
window, you can do so with GNOME’s Glade, which is the format
LibreOffice uses.
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Mariano: those items are meant to be text, not icons. Otherwise I do
not think they would be as clear.
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2014-09-30 12:06 GMT-05:00 Hillar Liiv :
> For first we need to give more consistent look for it:
> 1. same size tiles for recent and palette colors;
> 2. changing white background to dialog background color;
> 3. using icon for "color picker" etc.
Why don’t you ping the development list instead?
Jan,
I have also seen a report
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86891) in which a user
had the LibreOffice file picking dialog appearing too wide, could not
resize it, and I had never made that one non-resizable (my only
modification to that one dialog was making it modal, Jay’s
sugge
2014-12-10 3:52 GMT-06:00 Jan Holesovsky :
> In the meantime, I'll re-enable it for the Hyperlink dialog, and the
> dialogs that Miguel Angel mentioned - hope that's OK?
Please do :-)
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Hi Charles-H.,
it is still mandatory that people release their work to the public
domain, as it was the case in the last contest? That was my only gripe
at the time, as IMHO it reduced both the quantity and quality of the
work received.
> LibreOffice needs both new and fresh document templates .
2014-12-23 13:12 GMT-06:00 Jean-Francois Nifenecker
:
> OMG! Did you *actually* have a look a MS templates? They CAN'T (sorry for
> shouting) be used as they are in any other context than an american one.
I love your sarcasm.
Can’t we stop seeing issues where there aren’t any? At least have a
loo
2015-02-04 15:00 GMT-06:00 Jay Philips :
> Yes LibreOffice does participate in GSOC and Kendy does mentor in it and
Jay, in order for any project to participate in a GSoC it first has to
be approved each year by Google. Also, each mentor and chooses what
project they will mentor, if at all.
We ha
2015-02-21 19:18 GMT-06:00 Andrew Pullins :
> where did they Bug Submission Assistant go? I thought that it was absolutly
> amazing, because bugzilla can be hard to use.
It is under maintenance. We upgraded our Bugzilla instance several
times (both version and location), and that’s why it’s not fu
Since the weekly meeting process seems to be different now (no pad, no
meeting minutes, no open documents where one can leave notes for the
rest) and I’m not able to join calls because of other obligations... I
just wanted to leave here some screenshots for the online services
integration on the ne
Are design minutes being saved in Google documents now?
2015-03-11 3:52 GMT-06:00 Jay Philips :
> We had a fun design session last friday for the redesign of the Entries
> tab of the Index/Table of Contents dialog, and details of that
> discussion and a new mockup can be found in this google docs
Hi Heiko, Jay and Kendy:
Thank you guys for clearing things up, and sorry for my earlier rough
tone! It was indeed a permissions problem in Google setup. And if
Google tools are easier to work with, it’s fine by me of course.
Adolfo
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2015-06-10 8:29 GMT-05:00 Pedro Rosmaninho :
> If other people don't contribute then their input is worth less.
This jewel is pure bullshit.
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Kill the splash screen with fire! Branding? Come on, we have plenty.
2015-10-05 3:55 GMT-05:00 Yousuf 'Jay' Philips :
> Was pondering some more on when would be the longest time the splash screen
> would appear and that would be when a new user profile is generated the
> first time a user runs lib
e OpenOffice?).
>
> On 05/10/2015 16:21, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote:
>> Kill the splash screen with fire! Branding? Come on, we have plenty.
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2015-10-05 10:11 GMT-05:00 Italo Vignoli :
> Our coverage is less than one fourth of Microsoft Office coverage, which
> makes it weak in relation with the objective of making all
> Windows/Office users aware of LibreOffice (most of the coverage derives
> from the media relations activity under my r
Paulo:
Welcome back to LibreOffice! I personally love your proposed icons,
but I think that a separate set of *document* icons (i.e., regular
documents, not templates) is also needed. A gripe that I always had
with the current LibreOffice icons is that document icons are not
visually different fro
2016-07-31 13:04 GMT-05:00 kainz.a :
> Hi,
>
> For your information uri inform me before he closed the repository and the
> kde stuff on github wasn't up to date.
>
> But yes in general the png files isn't useful for new contributions and the
> origin file is the important stuff. You wouldn't save
> How can I get them approved and shipped?
As in the old days, my friend: just send a Gerrit patch 😀
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2016-10-07 13:19 GMT-05:00 Yousuf Philips :
> On 10/07/2016 01:40 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
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>> On 07/10/2016 10:41, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>>
>> * Drop 'Human' icon theme (Samuel)
>>>+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/29537/
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> Would suggest holding back on 'Human' as some di
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