[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report "jack server is not running or cannot be started" and do not play

2016-08-20 Thread gmorehou
This is still a problem in Lubuntu 16.04. gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio is
installed by default (presumably following Ubuntu), gstreamer1.0-alsa is
not.

'sudo apt install gstreamer1.0-alsa' fixes the problem. Gstreamer apps
such as banshee now output audio instead of silence.

I will file a bug against lubuntu-desktop and reference this bug.

** Also affects: gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Summary changed:

- Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report "jack server is not running 
or cannot be started" and do not play
+ Lubuntu: banshee, rhythmbox, etc cannot play audio without pulseaudio or 
gstreamer1.0-alsa

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[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report "jack server is not running or cannot be started" and do not play

2016-08-20 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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  Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report "jack server is not
  running or cannot be started" and do not play

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[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report "jack server is not running or cannot be started" and do not play

2016-05-28 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
The attachment "alsa config w software pre-amp tweak" seems to be a
patch.  If it isn't, please remove the "patch" flag from the attachment,
remove the "patch" tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu-
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[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report "jack server is not running or cannot be started" and do not play

2016-05-28 Thread raven322
nope. still getting this. with a bunch of apps. try a new .asoundrc
first. then theres a setting but I forget the file that asks which sink
to use. default is pulse before anything else. change it.

try this.

** Attachment added: "alsa config w software pre-amp tweak"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/1178272/+attachment/4671674/+files/.asoundrc

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[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report jack server is not running or cannot be started and do not play

2013-09-03 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
Thanks, this was of course the solution. I'd suggest that
gstreamer1.0-alsa was a dependency of ubuntu-restricted-extras. Assuming
that pulseaudio is installed is all right for the standard Ubuntu
installation, but not, for example, for Lubuntu. I'd expect that other
Lubuntu users run into the same problem.

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Re: [Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report jack server is not running or cannot be started and do not play

2013-09-03 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:13:35AM -, Rüdiger Kupper wrote:
 Thanks, this was of course the solution. I'd suggest that
 gstreamer1.0-alsa was a dependency of ubuntu-restricted-extras. Assuming
 that pulseaudio is installed is all right for the standard Ubuntu
 installation, but not, for example, for Lubuntu. I'd expect that other
 Lubuntu users run into the same problem.

No, probably not. I just tried installing lubuntu-desktop on a bare raring
chroot, and pulseaudio came with it. And pulseaudio doesn't belong in
ubuntu-restricted-extras -- what part of pulseaudio sounds restricted to you?

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[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report jack server is not running or cannot be started and do not play

2013-09-03 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
Hm, to my knowledge Lubuntu does not come with pulseaudio nor gstreamer. The 
standard install relies on audio applications that use plain ALSA. Try 
installing from a Lubuntu live CD.
It's certainly hard to choose which (meta-)package should pull in 
gstreamer1.0-alsa. But some package should include it, otherwise Lubuntu users 
will end up without it and have the problems described above. It's the link 
between ALSA and gstreamer, so it could come with one of the packages that 
deliver ALSA or gstreamer. There's probably no perfect answer here. It could 
just be included in the standard Lubuntu install, but the Lubuntu people opt 
for simplicity and use direct ALSA.

However, a typical scenario is as follows:
You install Lubuntu from a Live CD. You find a selection of slim audio software 
like audacious. However, you miss your rhythmbox/banshee/whatever. You install 
rhythmbox/banshee/whatever. It does not work, because there is no gstreamer. 
You google a bit and learn that the gstreamer plugins come with 
ubuntu-restricted-extras. You install it, but your rhythmbox/banshee/whatever 
still does not work, because there is no ALSA sink. You google a bit more but 
find no answer. You end up writing a bug report on launchpad ;-).

Anyway, it might even have helped if gstreamer printed a proper error
message (like no sink found) instead of trying to use the jack sink,
which is probably the least likely to exist. I don't know where's the
best place of doing it, but somehow it should be guaranteed that there
is at least one sink present when gstreamer is installed.

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Re: [Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report jack server is not running or cannot be started and do not play

2013-09-03 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:37:23PM -, Rüdiger Kupper wrote:
 Hm, to my knowledge Lubuntu does not come with pulseaudio nor gstreamer. The 
 standard install relies on audio applications that use plain ALSA. Try 
 installing from a Lubuntu live CD.
 It's certainly hard to choose which (meta-)package should pull in 
 gstreamer1.0-alsa. But some package should include it, otherwise Lubuntu 
 users will end up without it and have the problems described above. It's the 
 link between ALSA and gstreamer, so it could come with one of the packages 
 that deliver ALSA or gstreamer. There's probably no perfect answer here. It 
 could just be included in the standard Lubuntu install, but the Lubuntu 
 people opt for simplicity and use direct ALSA.
 
 However, a typical scenario is as follows:
 You install Lubuntu from a Live CD. You find a selection of slim audio 
 software like audacious. However, you miss your rhythmbox/banshee/whatever. 
 You install rhythmbox/banshee/whatever. It does not work, because there is no 
 gstreamer. You google a bit and learn that the gstreamer plugins come with 
 ubuntu-restricted-extras. You install it, but your rhythmbox/banshee/whatever 
 still does not work, because there is no ALSA sink. You google a bit more but 
 find no answer. You end up writing a bug report on launchpad ;-).
 
 Anyway, it might even have helped if gstreamer printed a proper error
 message (like no sink found) instead of trying to use the jack sink,
 which is probably the least likely to exist. I don't know where's the
 best place of doing it, but somehow it should be guaranteed that there
 is at least one sink present when gstreamer is installed.

There is at least one sink present (the jack one). Banshee depends on
gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio | gstreamer1.0-audiosink, and the latter package is a
virtual package that can be satisfied by any audio sink. In addition, it
recommends gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio, so it should be installed by default (but
will work even if you tell apt not to install gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio, but in
that case you're responsible for choosing another audiosink).

The issue here is that gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio is also useless because you don't
use pulseaudio.

Since this issue is more specific to Lubuntu installations, I'd be tempted to
slap gstreamer1.0-alsa onto lubuntu-desktop, but it looks like none of the
default media players even use gstreamer. I'll stick lubuntu-meta onto this bug
anyway, hopefully someone more acquianted with lubuntu would be able to come up
with a better solution.

  affects ubuntu/lubuntu-meta

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** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1178272] Re: Without pulseaudio, banshee and rhythmbox report jack server is not running or cannot be started and do not play

2013-08-06 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
In addition to the following message to stdout:
 Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
 Cannot connect to server request channel
 jack server is not running or cannot be started
rhythmbox displays a message box reading
 Couldn't start playback
 Failed to create autoaudiosink element; check your GStreamer installation

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