[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2018-08-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2014-09-25 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2014-09-23 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2012-05-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2011-02-03 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2011-01-25 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2010-09-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-terminal
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2010-09-15 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2010-06-14 Thread mclay
I had the same problem as Brian Murrell in post #74. I have fixed the
bug for the past two releases by commenting out the broken code in
terminal.c. The test for gconf using gconf_ping_daemon() failed if the
program was being called over an ssh connection. When I tried to compile
the 2.29.6 source from the Ubuntu source the make command failed didn't
compile. The error message was:

gnome-terminal-2.29.6/src/terminal-window.c:3330: undefined reference to 
`GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

I am puzzled about the failure to build. It appears that the binaries
for gnome-terminal in 10.4 may have been built against a different
release.

The solution was to download the 2.29.92 release,and build it. The
comment at line 451 of src/terminal.c describes the fix that was made in
this release. Here are the steps required to build and install this
release:

Download the gnome-terminal-2.29.92.tar.gz from https://launchpad.net
/gnome-terminal/main/2.29.92:

wget http://launchpad.net/gnome-terminal/main/2.29.92/+download
/gnome-terminal-2.29.92.tar.gz

Get tools for building deb packages:

sudo apt-get install autotools-dev fakeroot dh-make build-essential
checkinstall

unpack tarball and enter the source directory:

tar -xzf gnome-terminal-2.29.92.tar.gz 
cd gnome-terminal-2.29.92/

 build, and install the deb:

./configure
make
sudo checkinstall

The new gnome-terminal will be installed in /usr/local/bin.

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2010-04-09 Thread Brian J. Murrell
This bug still exists on Lucid:

karmic-pc $ ssh lucid-pc gnome-terminal
Failed to get the session bus: Failed to connect to socket 
/tmp/dbus-B95HmT1Dsv: Connection refused
Falling back to non-factory mode.
Failed to summon the GConf demon; exiting.  Failed to contact configuration 
server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for 
ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get 
connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-B95HmT1Dsv: 
Connection refused)

This is what, 3 releases in a row now that this bug has persisted?

$ apt-cache policy gnome-terminal
gnome-terminal:
  Installed: 2.29.6-0ubuntu5
  Candidate: 2.29.6-0ubuntu5
  Version table:
 *** 2.29.6-0ubuntu5 0
500 http://apt.interlinx.bc.ca/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-12-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/jaunty-proposed/gnome-terminal

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-09-09 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-terminal - 2.26.0-0ubuntu2.1

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  * Backport f41c3d14 from upstream to try to start gconf before assuming
it's not there (LP: #328575)

 -- Evan Broder bro...@mit.edu   Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:00:55 -0400

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-09-08 Thread JimmyJimJames
I too loaded the jaunty-proposed package last week and it fixed my
problems.  Many thanks to the team for tracking this down and creating a
fix.  I once again have my root terminal with a different color font,
launched from a toolbar button.  :)

Regards,
   Jim Evans

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Pitt
** Tags added: verification-done
** Tags removed: verification-needed

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-09-01 Thread Filofel
Update manager downloaded and installed the fix this morning.
Everything works fine now.
Lotsa thanks!

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Pitt
According to the bug description this problem is fixed in Karmic.

** Also affects: gconf2 (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Pitt
Seems this isn't a bug in gconf, just a problem in how g-terminal uses
gconf.

** Changed in: gconf2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** Changed in: gconf2 (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted gnome-terminal into jaunty-proposed, the package will build now
and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: New = Fix Committed

** Tags added: verification-needed

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-31 Thread Evan Broder
** Changed in: debian
   Status: Unknown = Fix Released

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-31 Thread linfidel
I'm not sure if this is important or not, but thought I'd add just in
case...

I just discovered the problem in Ubuntu Jaunty running Root Terminal,
something I rarely do.  I installed the jaunty-proposed package as
described by Martin, and at first, it gave me a blank screen.  Then, I
noticed that if I resized the window, it would redraw and be OK. This
only happens with the root terminal, run gksu; it seems as if using sudo
from a terminal works OK, and using gksu from a terminal sometimes
worked, I believe (when it didn't re-prompt for the password).

But, I remembered I had tried out a Window Rule using a Compiz  Window
Management plugin that resized gnome terminal windows.  After disabling
this rule, the Gnome terminal worked normally at all times.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-27 Thread Geoffrey Thomas
I've confirmed that installing Evan's package addresses this issue
(i.e., that gnome-terminal starts with this patch applied, and doesn't
produce any GTK warnings or other ill effects).

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[Bug 328575] Re: [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-27 Thread Evan Broder
** Summary changed:

- Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error
+ [gnome-terminal SRU] Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) 
because of gconf error

** Description changed:

+ Binary package hint: gnome-terminal
+ 
+ IMPACT: gnome-terminal will fail to launch under any circumstance where
+ gconfd isn't already running. This can include `sudo gnome-terminal`
+ (since no gconfd is running for root), or starting gnome-terminal under
+ a non-GNOME window manager.
+ 
+ DEVELOPMENT: The Debian maintainer added 02_let_gconf_autostart.patch in
+ 2.26.2-2 to solve this issue (debbugs #531734). That version has been
+ merged into Karmic.
+ 
+ PATCH: Patch available at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30671489/gnome-
+ terminal_2.26.0-0ubuntu2.1.debdiff, with test builds in
+ https://launchpad.net/~broder/+archive/ubuntu-tests. The upstream gnome-
+ terminal maintainer rejected the patch used for
+ 02_let_gconf_autostart.patch, because it reintroduced gnome-bugs
+ #561663. The attached patch instead cherry-picks the commit the
+ maintainer added to fix this bug upstream.
+ 
+ INSTRUCTIONS: Attempt to run `sudo gnome-terminal`. It will exit with
+ Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
+ 
+ REGRESSION: Seems limited - this is a cherry-pick of an upstream change
+ that only changes a handful of lines.
+ 
+ 
+ Original bug description:
+ 
  I cannot start gnome-terminal.  If I open an xterm and start gnome-
  terminal from the command line, here is what I get:
  
  $ sudo gnome-terminal  
  Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
  (original report didn't have sudo in this command, but a later comment by the 
submitter amended this.)
  
  $ ps ax | grep gconf
   3956 pts/0R+ 0:00 grep gconf
   6643 ?S  0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
   6647 ?S  0:06 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
  
  This is in Jaunty Alpha 4 with all updates current as of 12 Feb.
  
   This bug is now understood.  Read all the comments (or at least try
  some text searches) before adding your own, because a lot of things have
  already been covered.
  
  summary of some stuff posted in comments:
   gnome-terminal on purpose refuses to start if it can't connect to gconfd to 
get its config settings.
  
   gconf clients now find the server using DBUS.  Starting gnome-terminal
  as root doesn't work even when you have all the gnome bits and pieces
  running under your account, because DBUS is per-user.
  
  executive of summary: We know what is going on.  Everything that doesn't
  work is a consequence of the design.  Everything is working as designed,
  although obviously there are problems with this design.  Discussion
  about the design probably belongs on freedesktop-bugs #17970 (link in
  the remote bug sidebar).
  
   Workarounds to use until the bugs are fixed:
  for the gconfd-not-running case:
  start gconfd.  e.g. add /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon to your X session 
startup script, ahead of any gnome-terminal commands.  This applies whatever 
window manager you happen to be using.  (except if you're using Ubuntu's 
default GNOME desktop, which already starts gconfd itself.)
  
  multiple tabs over ssh:
  use screen(1)
  $ sudo aptitude install screen  screen-profiles # if you don't have it already
  The default config has unhelpful keybindings.  I'm used to ^t as the command 
key, and F11/F12 as next/previous tab (screen calls them windows).  I set up 
my own .screenrc before screen-profiles was packaged, so I don't know if its 
examples and samples are good or not.
  If you insist on displaying a GUI over X11 over ssh, there are other terminal 
emulators with tabs, e.g. the lighter-weight mrxvt.  (be careful, though: it 
doesn't support UTF-8.)
  
   You might also investigate ssh -M for connection sharing.  As I
  understand it, this lets you tunnel multiple sessions over one SSH
  connection, so only one password prompt...  You could presumably get a
  local gnome-terminal going with ssh connections in each tab.
  
  root shells:
  You can use sudo inside a gnome terminal that's running under your own 
account.  sudo -s, sudo -i, sudo su, and sudo bash are all variations on 
getting a shell running as root.  If you don't know which to pick, use sudo -s. 
 Or, better, don't start a root shell, and simply use sudo or gksudo on the one 
or two commands that need it.
  
   This bug is partly that gconf requires DBUS, which breaks some remote-
  GUI situations, and partly that gnome-terminal just refuses to start
  without gconf, even though some people have found that it actually works
  if they comment out that part.
  
   Armed with this knowledge, this bug shouldn't be more than a minor
  inconvenience, esp. if you're not dealing with ssh.  (GNU screen takes
  some time to get used to...)
  
   I hope it's ok that I turned this bug's description into a guide on how
  to deal with it.  Please correct any inaccuracies.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-24 Thread Pedro Villavicencio
** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-22 Thread Evan Broder
Here's a patch that cherry-picks an upstream commit to fix this problem
for Jaunty.

** Attachment added: gnome-terminal_2.26.0-0ubuntu2.1.debdiff
   
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30671489/gnome-terminal_2.26.0-0ubuntu2.1.debdiff

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-20 Thread Quentin Smith
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #564649
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564649

** Also affects: gnome-terminal via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564649
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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2009-08-20 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-terminal
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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2009-08-20 Thread Evan Broder
** Also affects: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-08-20 Thread Evan Broder
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #531734
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531734

** Changed in: debian
   Importance: Undecided = Unknown

** Changed in: debian
   Status: New = Unknown

** Changed in: debian
 Remote watch: None = Debian Bug tracker #531734

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

2009-07-17 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
** Summary changed:

- Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error
+ Cannot start gnome-terminal (or x-terminal-emulator) because of gconf error

** Tags added: gconf terminal

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-07-09 Thread Cory Davis
It's not explictly stated here, but this also occurs for other users than root 
(it's implict in the doesn't work over
ssh case).

For me, I run Ubuntu on my home PC with one user name, and have a
separate user for my work environment, which I generally access with `su
- other_user`.  I was a bit flabbergasted when I couldn't launch a work
user terminal because of this issue, as I done this with gnome-terminal
on one of those other linux distributions in the past.  I adapted the
dbus workaround shown above.   I'm posting in case someone with the same
need but less shell scripting experience (not that this takes much)
finds it useful until this is fixed.

#!/bin/sh
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
if [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then
  DISPLAY=:0
  export DISPLAY
fi

title=`whoa...@`uname -n`
cmd=gnome-terminal --disable-factory --sm-client-disable --window --title 
\$title\
# open six tabs
tab_count=5
i=0
while [ $i -lt $tab_count ]
do
  i=`expr $i + 1`
  cmd=${cmd} --tab --title \${title}\
done

eval $cmd  /dev/null  /dev/null 21 

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-06-17 Thread Tom V
I just noticed this behavior in an update to Jaunty from Intrepid.  If it is 
not a bug then it is a feature and should be in a change log somewhere.  I 
liked being able to click on a root terminal icon, give it my password and be 
presented with a root terminal.
I guess I can just as easily su to root.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-06-14 Thread Chris Coulson
franik4ever - have you got the link to the Debian bug report so it can
be tracked here, seeing as you added the Debian task?

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-06-13 Thread franik4ever
** Also affects: debian
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-06-01 Thread HavocXphere
What is 'interesting' is that I don't see any gnome program except 
gnome-terminal that needs that workaround
Not 100% convinced about this. I've had lots of gksu nautilus commands 
mysteriously failing lately (from ALT-F2). Exact same behaviourrequests 
password and then nothing. The annoying thing is that it happens randomly  I 
can't duplicate it right now. :(

Might just be a co-incidence...but its been annoying me for some time
now.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-31 Thread Mike Heise
Thank you, whoever added the workaround guide to the bug description.
It was concise and extremely helpful.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-14 Thread BlueSky
 I've tried to make it more clear that this should be considered a bug.
I am very pleased: I didn't expect a positive/constructive reaction. This is 
great work, now it's up to gnome/gconf developers.

 Isn't it just providing settings that were configured when you still used 
 GNOME?
I never used GNOME on this installation =)

 If you had an empty ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*, wouldn't you get the same 
 defaults as when gconfd isn't running at all? (try moving those directories 
 aside before deleting them).
I had .gnome2 and .gnome2_private directories in ~/, which I renamed before 
running gnome-settings-daemon. Didn't change anything, gnome-settings-daemon is 
still taking over.
Moreover, my custom Openbox key bindings for XF86AudioPrev, XF86AudioNext, etc. 
don't work anymore once gnome-settings-daemon has been launched (even after 
g-s-d is killed).

 I guess really you just need gconfd, which is started by 
 gnome-settings-daemon. Does running
 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
 change your themes and fonts? Or only g-s-d? If it's ok, then you could 
 update the workaround to suggest just that, instead of g-s-d.
Running this doesn't change anything, and, in fact, it exits immediately :
--
tsubaka ~ # /usr/libexec/gconfd-2
[1] 12114
tsubaka ~ # (press enter)
[1]+  Exit 1  /usr/libexec/gconfd-2
tsubaka ~ # 
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Olivier Sessink provided a working way to launch gconfd-2 and then 
gnome-terminal, as root ( 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/328575/comments/42 ):
The problem is that there is no session-dbus. The following lines of shell code
 start a session dbus, start gconfd and start the gnome-terminal

 #!/bin/sh
 eval 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session'
 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
 gnome-terminal

 add it to a script, and start the script.

So in my case, it's  a no-go for gnome-terminal, and I'm off using
xfce's terminal emulator, which is just fine, and lightweight too =)

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-12 Thread BlueSky
Huh.. no it's not okay to turn it into a guide.. People have been using
gnome-terminal as root for years. Lecturing them on the dangerousity of
their ways is just an excuse not to fix the bug.

I do not mean to attack you personally, but I just hate it when people
say why do you do that anyway? or it's much better if you do it the
other way when there is a real bug.

While I understand Ubuntu is targeted at the general public (including
very, very dumb users), well not only dumb users use it, I guess. Those
should have the freedom to launch gnome-terminal as root, knowing and
accepting the risk.

As for me, I have turned to x11-terms/terminal (gentoo package
terminology), which is the xfce terminal emulator. It has nearly all
features from gnome-terminal, without the wont-launch-as-root bug. But I
seriously hope this bug is fixed upstream in gnome-terminal.

Additionally, running gnome-settings-daemon is not always an acceptable
workaround, since it messes up with gtk+ themes, desktop background,
etc. Gnome is a trustworthy partner, but an invasive ex. (ie. when you
just want to stay friends = just run gnome applications)

As a conclusion, well, I guess a guide is better than nothing. Thanks
for that effort already.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-12 Thread Peter Cordes
** Description changed:

  I cannot start gnome-terminal.  If I open an xterm and start gnome-
  terminal from the command line, here is what I get:
  
  $ sudo gnome-terminal  
  Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
  (original report didn't have sudo in this command, but a later comment by the 
submitter amended this.)
  
  $ ps ax | grep gconf
   3956 pts/0R+ 0:00 grep gconf
   6643 ?S  0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
   6647 ?S  0:06 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
  
  This is in Jaunty Alpha 4 with all updates current as of 12 Feb.
  
   This bug is now understood.  Read all the comments (or at least try
  some text searches) before adding your own, because a lot of things have
  already been covered.
  
  summary of some stuff posted in comments:
   gnome-terminal on purpose refuses to start if it can't connect to gconfd to 
get its config settings.
  
   gconf clients now find the server using DBUS.  Starting gnome-terminal
  as root doesn't work even when you have all the gnome bits and pieces
  running under your account, because DBUS is per-user.
  
  executive of summary: We know what is going on.  Everything that doesn't
  work is a consequence of the design.  Everything is working as designed,
  although obviously there are problems with this design.  Discussion
  about the design probably belongs on freedesktop-bugs #17970 (link in
  the remote bug sidebar).
  
-  Workarounds:
+  Workarounds to use until the bugs are fixed:
  for the gconfd-not-running case:
  start gconfd.  e.g. add /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon to your X session 
startup script, ahead of any gnome-terminal commands.  This applies whatever 
window manager you happen to be using.  (except if you're using Ubuntu's 
default GNOME desktop, which already starts gconfd itself.)
  
  multiple tabs over ssh:
  use screen(1)
  $ sudo aptitude install screen  screen-profiles # if you don't have it already
  The default config has unhelpful keybindings.  I'm used to ^t as the command 
key, and F11/F12 as next/previous tab (screen calls them windows).  I set up 
my own .screenrc before screen-profiles was packaged, so I don't know if its 
examples and samples are good or not.
  If you insist on displaying a GUI over X11 over ssh, there are other terminal 
emulators with tabs, e.g. the lighter-weight mrxvt.  (be careful, though: it 
doesn't support UTF-8.)
  
   You might also investigate ssh -M for connection sharing.  As I
  understand it, this lets you tunnel multiple sessions over one SSH
  connection, so only one password prompt...  You could presumably get a
  local gnome-terminal going with ssh connections in each tab.
  
  root shells:
- use sudo inside a gnome terminal that's running under your own account.  sudo 
-s, sudo -i, sudo su, and sudo bash are all variations on getting a shell 
running as root.  If you don't know which to pick, use sudo -s.  Or, better, 
don't start a root shell, and simply use sudo on the one or two commands that 
need it.  e.g.
- $ ls
- $ less foo.conf
- $ sudo editor foo.conf
-  (or gksudo editor foo.conf, if your editor of choice is opens it's own 
window instead of running inside the terminal)
- $ ls ..
- $ sudo mv foo bar
- $ sudo  # error permission denied
- $ echo 10 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/swappiness  # sudo tee is a way to 
accomplish  echo 10   file  with the file-open happening as root.
- 
-  Root is dangerous: a typo could break things much more easily than
- without sudo.  The fewer things running as root, the better.  It's not
- usually necessary to run a terminal emulator as root, just things that
- use that terminal.  Even when you're doing a sysadmin thing, you
- probably run lots of info-gathering commands that don't need root.  Save
- sudo for the commands that need it.
+ You can use sudo inside a gnome terminal that's running under your own 
account.  sudo -s, sudo -i, sudo su, and sudo bash are all variations on 
getting a shell running as root.  If you don't know which to pick, use sudo -s. 
 Or, better, don't start a root shell, and simply use sudo or gksudo on the one 
or two commands that need it.
  
   This bug is partly that gconf requires DBUS, which breaks some remote-
  GUI situations, and partly that gnome-terminal just refuses to start
  without gconf, even though some people have found that it actually works
  if they comment out that part.
  
   Armed with this knowledge, this bug shouldn't be more than a minor
  inconvenience, esp. if you're not dealing with ssh.  (GNU screen takes
  some time to get used to...)
  
   I hope it's ok that I turned this bug's description into a guide on how
  to deal with it.  Please correct any inaccuracies.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-12 Thread Peter Cordes
BlueSky wrote:
 Lecturing them on the dangerousity of their ways is just an excuse not to fix 
 the bug.

 I do not mean to attack you personally, but I just hate it when people say 
 why do you do that anyway? or
 it's much better if you do it the other way when there is a real bug.

 Thanks for the comments.  You're right, I went way overboard with the
lectures against running too much as root, when all that was called for
in that space was workarounds that would let people do the things they
wanted to.  I see how that would give the impression that it's actually
the user's fault, not a bug (which is not the case.)

 I've tried to make it more clear that this should be considered a bug.  e.g. 
Workarounds: -
Workarounds to use until the bugs are fixed:.  Although I did already try to 
make it clear that this is still a bug, not just simply the new way that GNOME 
works.  OTOH, unless gnome-terminal will just work without gconf, this bug will 
probably take a long time to get fixed, since it's the result of the design, 
not just a problem implementing it correctly.  That's what I was trying to make 
clear, and prepare people for a long wait.

 It's true that my workarounds for root and remote usage cases are
what I do anyway, and I do in fact consider them better than actually
running gnome-terminal as root, or remote-displaying it.  That's what
makes them such great workarounds...  (esp. since I'm a command line
guy, and I always have gnome-terminal open, and usually have a shell
already cd'ed to whatever directory I want to do something in...  This
is not the case for everybody, e.g. the people who want to start a shell
from nautilus.  That's fine, use your computer however you want, as long
as it's not a security disaster that's going to have your computer
infected and trying to crack mine and relaying spam.)  Without the big
lecture, I'm probably less likely to put people off actually trying
anything I suggested.

 running gnome-settings-daemon is not always an acceptable workaround,
since it messes up with gtk+ themes, desktop background, etc

 Isn't it just providing settings that were configured when you still used 
GNOME?  If you had an empty ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*, wouldn't you get the same 
defaults as when gconfd isn't running at all?  (try moving those directories 
aside before deleting them).  I guess really you just need gconfd, which is 
started by gnome-settings-daemon.  Does running 
/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
change your themes and fonts?  Or only g-s-d?  If it's ok, then you could 
update the workaround to suggest just that, instead of g-s-d.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-11 Thread Andy
I'm having this gconf error from a regular account. I use fluxbox.
Here's the command throwing the error.

x-terminal-emulator -T Bash -e /bin/bash --login

This issue seems to resolve itself after some usage. I suspect gphpedit
fires up the gonf daemon properly. I like to fire up my terminals
immediately after login though, and dropping to a text terminal (ctrl-
alt-F1) to fire up a terminal is really annoying. I'm not knowledgeable
about EUIDs or some of the other crazy stuff above, but I think they are
related to the root user, which is not what I'm trying to use. I just
want to open a terminal! And I'd rather not change the terminal I'm used
to.

The main purpose of this message is to point out that this is NOT just a
su issue.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Cordes
 The main purpose of this message is to point out that this is NOT just
a su issue.

 Right, it's an X11-without-gconf issue.  See my post, above, for my
workaround for fluxbox.  Like you, I use fluxbox and gnome-terminal.
It's a simple matter of getting gconf running.  I do it by running
gnome-settings-daemon in my .fluxbox/startup.  (startx does start DBUS,
so gnome stuff can find itself once started.)

BTW, ctrl-alt-f1 is not the simplest way.  There are other viable terminal 
emulators you can start from the menu:  Applications-Terminal 
Emulators-anything but gnome terminal.  If you don't have any others installed,
aptitude install xterm
It's not very nice, but it works well as a failsafe.

 Or start any other GUI program that lets you run shell commands.  e.g. emacs, 
and M-x shell.
(and start gnome-settings-daemon that way.)

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Cordes
** Description changed:

  I cannot start gnome-terminal.  If I open an xterm and start gnome-
  terminal from the command line, here is what I get:
  
- $ gnome-terminal
+ $ sudo gnome-terminal  
  Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
+ (original report didn't have sudo in this command, but a later comment by the 
submitter amended this.)
  
  $ ps ax | grep gconf
   3956 pts/0R+ 0:00 grep gconf
   6643 ?S  0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
   6647 ?S  0:06 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
  
  This is in Jaunty Alpha 4 with all updates current as of 12 Feb.
+ 
+  This bug is now understood.  Read all the comments (or at least try
+ some text searches) before adding your own, because a lot of things have
+ already been covered.
+ 
+ summary of some stuff posted in comments:
+  gnome-terminal on purpose refuses to start if it can't connect to gconfd to 
get its config settings.
+ 
+  gconf clients now find the server using DBUS.  Starting gnome-terminal
+ as root doesn't work even when you have all the gnome bits and pieces
+ running under your account, because DBUS is per-user.
+ 
+ executive of summary: We know what is going on.  Everything that doesn't
+ work is a consequence of the design.  Everything is working as designed,
+ although obviously there are problems with this design.  Discussion
+ about the design probably belongs on freedesktop-bugs #17970 (link in
+ the remote bug sidebar).
+ 
+  Workarounds:
+ for the gconfd-not-running case:
+ start gconfd.  e.g. add /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon to your X session 
startup script, ahead of any gnome-terminal commands.  This applies whatever 
window manager you happen to be using.  (except if you're using Ubuntu's 
default GNOME desktop, which already starts gconfd itself.)
+ 
+ multiple tabs over ssh:
+ use screen(1)
+ $ sudo aptitude install screen  screen-profiles # if you don't have it already
+ The default config has unhelpful keybindings.  I'm used to ^t as the command 
key, and F11/F12 as next/previous tab (screen calls them windows).  I set up 
my own .screenrc before screen-profiles was packaged, so I don't know if its 
examples and samples are good or not.
+ If you insist on displaying a GUI over X11 over ssh, there are other terminal 
emulators with tabs, e.g. the lighter-weight mrxvt.  (be careful, though: it 
doesn't support UTF-8.)
+ 
+  You might also investigate ssh -M for connection sharing.  As I
+ understand it, this lets you tunnel multiple sessions over one SSH
+ connection, so only one password prompt...  You could presumably get a
+ local gnome-terminal going with ssh connections in each tab.
+ 
+ root shells:
+ use sudo inside a gnome terminal that's running under your own account.  sudo 
-s, sudo -i, sudo su, and sudo bash are all variations on getting a shell 
running as root.  If you don't know which to pick, use sudo -s.  Or, better, 
don't start a root shell, and simply use sudo on the one or two commands that 
need it.  e.g.
+ $ ls
+ $ less foo.conf
+ $ sudo editor foo.conf
+  (or gksudo editor foo.conf, if your editor of choice is opens it's own 
window instead of running inside the terminal)
+ $ ls ..
+ $ sudo mv foo bar
+ $ sudo  # error permission denied
+ $ echo 10 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/swappiness  # sudo tee is a way to 
accomplish  echo 10   file  with the file-open happening as root.
+ 
+  Root is dangerous: a typo could break things much more easily than
+ without sudo.  The fewer things running as root, the better.  It's not
+ usually necessary to run a terminal emulator as root, just things that
+ use that terminal.  Even when you're doing a sysadmin thing, you
+ probably run lots of info-gathering commands that don't need root.  Save
+ sudo for the commands that need it.
+ 
+  This bug is partly that gconf requires DBUS, which breaks some remote-
+ GUI situations, and partly that gnome-terminal just refuses to start
+ without gconf, even though some people have found that it actually works
+ if they comment out that part.
+ 
+  Armed with this knowledge, this bug shouldn't be more than a minor
+ inconvenience, esp. if you're not dealing with ssh.  (GNU screen takes
+ some time to get used to...)
+ 
+  I hope it's ok that I turned this bug's description into a guide on how
+ to deal with it.  Please correct any inaccuracies.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-09 Thread notelopuedesimaginar
Still happening here with 9.04 and all the updates.

I can confirm that it only keeps me from running a new gnome-terminal
from the root account, users can. I can run other graphical shells like
konsole or xterm with no trouble.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-08 Thread Alwin Roosen
I have the same problem after upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty.

I don't know of this is information is useful, but i experience this
issue problem trying to start gnome-terminal from
/etc/gdm/PostSession/Default. This script is run when the user logs out
of the system. In Intrepid, a terminal pops out in front of the user,
but it does nothing in Jaunty. The terminal does not start, and I get
this very same error.

What I don't understand is that the very same command works perfectly
when started from /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default. This script is run right
after user logon.

And when i try to run it between logon and logoff, manually from
terminal, it also works.

I tried the suggested workaround which seems to solve the problem when
executed from /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default

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Re: [Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-08 Thread Aviv
Let me be more accurate here. Gnome-terminal works fine, *ONLY* root terminal
fails (gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator fails to execute). Hence, GConf may be
error-free in this case.

Quoting Maxim Levitsky maximlevit...@gmail.com:

 Thus I still thing gnome-terminal should work without gconf

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Re: [Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-08 Thread Aviv
Let me be more accurate here. Gnome-terminal works fine, *ONLY* root terminal
fails (gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator fails to execute). Hence, GConf may be
error-free in this case.

Quoting Alwin Roosen i...@alwinroosen.be:

 I have the same problem after upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty.

 I don't know of this is information is useful, but i experience this
 issue problem trying to start gnome-terminal from
 /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default. This script is run when the user logs out
 of the system. In Intrepid, a terminal pops out in front of the user,
 but it does nothing in Jaunty. The terminal does not start, and I get
 this very same error.

 What I don't understand is that the very same command works perfectly
 when started from /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default. This script is run right
 after user logon.

 And when i try to run it between logon and logoff, manually from
 terminal, it also works.

 I tried the suggested workaround which seems to solve the problem when
 executed from /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-08 Thread Alexey Balmashnov
Aviv here is some clarification:
$ ls -l /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2009-04-27 14:01 /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator - 
/etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator
$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-04-27 14:00 
/etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator - /usr/bin/gnome-terminal.wrapper

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-08 Thread BlueSky
 I'm just re-confirming the same problem with today's latest updates (May 6, 
 2009).
 
 I only run *UBUNTUs now. I'm curious if this bug has cropped up on other 
 distributions, eg RedHat, Suse, etc., or is it  just in the UBUNTU family? 
 If it isn't general then maybe its a *UBUNTU configuration quirk.

Heya, just got there from Google, I report that I have the same problem
under Gentoo, from updates today.

I am aware it's not the place to report Gentoo bugs, just letting you
know you're not the only ones having the bug.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-06 Thread MaskedMarauder
I'm just re-confirming the same problem with today's latest updates (May
6, 2009).

I only run *UBUNTUs now.  I'm curious if this bug has cropped up on
other distributions, eg RedHat, Suse, etc., or is it just in the UBUNTU
family?  If it isn't general then maybe its a *UBUNTU configuration
quirk.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-03 Thread Olivier Sessink
The problem is that there is no session-dbus. The following lines of
shell code start a session dbus, start gconfd and start the gnome-
terminal

#!/bin/sh
eval 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session'
/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
gnome-terminal

add it to a script, and start the script.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-03 Thread Arnaldo Mandel
I didn't work, until I caught on the typo (ticks instead of backticks).
Here is the corrected script:

#!/bin/sh
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
gnome-terminal


Now it does indeed work.  I can gksudo this script and can also invoke it 
remotely.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-03 Thread Maxim Levitsky
Indeed.

as a workaround one can create /usr/local/bin/gnome-terminal with the
above code:

#!/bin/bash

if [  $EUID = 0 ] ; then

eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
fi

exec /usr/bin/gnome-terminal $*

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-03 Thread Maxim Levitsky
Thus I still thing gnome-terminal should work without gconf

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-03 Thread Maxim Levitsky
What is 'interesting' is that I don't see any gnome program except
gnome-terminal that needs that workaround

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-05-03 Thread Stepan Roucka
 What is 'interesting' is that I don't see any gnome program 
 except gnome-terminal that needs that workaround

In case of running programs over ssh, every gnome program that I
tried is affected by this bug. For example nautilus:
$ nautilus

(nautilus:8367): Eel-WARNING **: GConf error:
  Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you 
need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to 
a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details 
-  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket 
/tmp/dbus-SmPGlbnjCX: Connection refused)

(nautilus:8367): Eel-WARNING **: GConf error:
  Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you 
need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to 
a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details 
-  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket 
/tmp/dbus-68o2xY0A4a: Connection refused)
GConf warning: failure listing pairs in `/apps/nautilus/preferences': Failed to 
contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable 
TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. 
See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to 
get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-653EukrRMz: 
Connection refused)GConf warning: failure listing pairs in 
`/desktop/gnome/file_views': Failed to contact configuration server; some 
possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you 
have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get 
connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-7PdDqACLDB: 
Connection refused)GConf warning: failure listing pairs in 
`/apps/nautilus/desktop': Failed to contact configuration server; some possible 
causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have 
stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for 
information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to 
connect to socket /tmp/dbus-v4zT60f1OD: Connection refused)GConf warning: 
failure listing pairs in `/apps/nautilus/icon_view': Failed to contact 
configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP 
networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See 
http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get 
connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-W31BvrdFGB: 
Connection refused)

[etc... and crash]

$ gnome-calculator 
GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are 
that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS 
locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for 
information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to 
connect to socket /tmp/dbus-XL6x5ZWna8: Connection refused)

[etc... and crash]

I remeber that i tested also epiphany and update-manager, neither of them works 
without the above
workaround.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-30 Thread Russel Winder
Sebastien, your comment seems to imply that Launchpad bug reports are a
waste of time.  Is this really what you meant?  I had been under the
impression that Launchpad was intended to be a gateway/portal for bug
reporting.  If Launchpad reports do not get forwarded upstream
automatically once triaged then what purpose does it have?

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-30 Thread Maxim Levitsky
For some sense that seems to be true, I often find out that reporting
bugs upstream is better.

Yet, this also usually doesn't help, bugs just remain in bugzilla, and
nobody fixes them.

Thus the only way to fix the bugs is just grok the code, and fix them up myself.
(No matter how hard that is)

This bug is an exception, as the 'real' fix for it might involve some
big changes in way root applications are handled

There is nothing wrong with the above, linux just has  few users and
developers, and I feel that majority of linux users, just use it because
they have to for one or another reason, and will thus use it as little
as possible (eg run in VM, try cygwin, bring own laptop with windows, as
a backup, etc...)

This is sad.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-30 Thread Sebastien Bacher
 your comment seems to imply that Launchpad bug reports are a waste of
time. Is this really what you meant? I had been under the impression
that Launchpad was intended to be a gateway/portal for bug reporting. If
Launchpad reports do not get forwarded upstream automatically once
triaged then what purpose does it have?

No, the issue is just that the number of bug reports and issues is just
high for the team working on those so it might take some time to get
issues triaged, confirmed, sent upstream etc. If you know what you are
doing you are welcome to speed the process by sending the bug upstream
too rather than waiting on overworked triagers to pick it for you

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Russel Winder
Having just upgraded to Jaunty from Intrepid, I have arrived at this
cannot do 'gksu gnome-terminal' bug.  How did this happen?  What
change was made Intrepid - Jaunty that broke this oft used (even if
some people consider it the wrong thing to do) feature?  I really am not
looking for workarounds, I am looking for this not to have been broken
in the first place.

This problem has clearly been known about since the beginning of this
year and still Jaunty was released with the bug for us unsuspecting
people to get hit by.

This really does need to be considered as a security bug and fixed asap:
the whole point of using this idiom is that it requires the password and
it gives a new type of terminal so that it can be coloured differently
from other terminals to show it is a dangerous terminal.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Adam Yao
This bug affects more applications. please fix it asap.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread JimmyJimJames
I just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 on two machines and both exhibit the same
problem when attempting to open a root terminal via the built in gksu
command.

The suggestion to use:
   gnome-terminal -e sudo -i
is not sufficient for me, as I defined a different default profile for the root 
user which has a different text color (to visually differentiate a normal 
terminal from a su terminal) and the root profile is not loaded using this 
workaround.

Very annoying that a built in option like Root terminal was broken by
the 9.10 upgrade

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Coulson
** Tags added: regression-release

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Pibo
@ Adam Yao:
could you please be more specific? Are you meaning that you've found some 
applications other than the root terminal which undergo this GConf's issue, or 
that the fact the terminal is unusable affects other activities of yours? Or 
maybe referring to something you read on other pages about this same bug? Just 
to know.
Thanks :)

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Re: [Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 13:39 +, Pibo wrote:
 @ Adam Yao:
 could you please be more specific? Are you meaning that you've found some 
 applications other than the root terminal which undergo this GConf's issue, 
 or that the fact the terminal is unusable affects other activities of yours? 
 Or maybe referring to something you read on other pages about this same bug? 
 Just to know.

The problem is that this affects way more than just gksu gnome-terminal.
It also makes it impossible to do:

$ ssh -Y jaunty_system gnome-terminal

As you can see, where I may launch 12 other terminals or tabs (i.e. from
the New Terminal/Tab menu options) from that one gnome-terminal, using
12 or more ssh -Y commands is simply an unacceptable work-around.  I
want the functionality of the gnome-terminal on the remote machine, not
on my local machine.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread bjd
Been following these comments -- all the while finding myself more and more
dumbfounded. This bug is over two months old.

Never mind the new notification system -- people want to get some serious
work done and here's some essential functionality that, well.  isn't 
functioning.

There's another bug there: how could a much anticipated release make it out the
door, even with this fundamental breakage already having been reported?

bjd

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Maxim Levitsky
While I agree with most of stuff said here, lets not turn this bug into
a flame war.

I want to repeat myself, that commenting out this:

in terminal.c:

  /* If the gconf daemon isn't available (e.g. because there's no dbus
   * session bus running), we'd crash later on. Tell the user about it
   * now, and exit. See bug #561663.
   */
  if (!gconf_ping_daemon ())
{
  g_printerr (Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.\n);
  exit (1);
}


made it work for me

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Re: [Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Andrew
I do not see how commenting that out is a good idea if that comment is
correct. Instead, it appears to me to be a bug in the
gconf_ping_daemon. If the gnome-terminal can run just fine under sudo,
then the gconf_ping_daemon should be using the actual user ID, not the
effective user ID to try to get the running gconf process.

Since I know for a fact that I am running X and GConf is accessible,
then this function does not appear to be detecting the daemon
correctly.

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Re: [Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 17:44 +, bjd wrote:
 Been following these comments -- all the while finding myself more and more
 dumbfounded. This bug is over two months old.

More and more bugs lately seem to befall this fate sadly, of just
lingering on and on and nothing being done.

 There's another bug there: how could a much anticipated release make it out 
 the
 door, even with this fundamental breakage already having been reported?

Because it was time.  Sadly, in this day and age, releases are made
based on squares on a calendar, not on suitability of release.  To be
sure, much work is put into trying to make the release stable by the
time that square on the calendar comes up but it doesn't always happen.
The square comes and the release has to be made.

While this does not seem to have been a problem in the past, the past
couple of releases of both Ubuntu and evolution seem to have fallen
victim to it's time and not it's ready.  Hopefully this changes in
that the release date is allowed to slip or more hands are put into
getting it ready by that release date or less ambitious are set for
releases.

It's one of those old pick two songs.  In this case the three choices
are on time, feature packed, stable.  Pick two.

b.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the best way to get that bug worked would be to opened a bug against the
concerned software to the software writters on bugzilla.gnome.org,
ubuntu only distribute it, the quality comments are not useful, the
usecase described there is just not the most common one and technical
users having the issue should be able to help and send that to GNOME
early

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-29 Thread bjd
With all due respect Sebastien -- I can hardly believe that
I'm reading this: ubuntu only distribute it.

(why even have a bug reporting system in the first place,
one wonders, btw.).

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-28 Thread Roman Polach
I also have this problem:
gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator ...does not work, displays Failed to contact 
the GConf daemon
/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator ...works ok
gksu gedit ...works ok

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-27 Thread Brian J. Murrell
Aw crap!  Now I'm going to have to go back to Intrepid.  Not being able
to open a gnome-terminal over an ssh connection is a show stopper for
me!

~sigh~  It's been too long now since I have been able to do a Ubuntu
upgrade and everything just works as well as it did before the
upgrade.

Please fix this ASAP.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-26 Thread Andreas Moog
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #17970
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17970

** Also affects: dbus via
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17970
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-26 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: dbus
   Status: Unknown = In Progress

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-26 Thread Zaeggu
Same problem, gksu gnome-terminal and sudo gnome-terminal not start
the Terminal!

gnome-terminal is ready for use the Terminal!

Fix this Bug Please!!!

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-25 Thread Maxim Levitsky
gnome-settings-daemon doesn't help:

I do:

# sudo -i
$ gnome-settings-daemon 
$ gnome-terminal


and it still fails with same message

It did work fine in 8.10
Now I can't open it nether from root nautilus or from remote share
and can't open like I said above

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-25 Thread Jim10
Copy of my posting in Bug #326158 in Ubuntu:


As far as I 'm concerned it's not a big issue, a (temporary?) solution
is simple. Add a starter to the taskbar (or your menu) with:

gnome-terminal -e sudo -i

and the terminal starts immediately asking for your password. As long as
you keep that terminal open you will have root-permissions in it.

Gr,
Jim

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-25 Thread Maxim Levitsky
@Jim, this isn't what makes it fail.
The problem  is that if I launch nautilus as root, I can't open terminal from 
it.

I strongly suspect this bug prevents above from working

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-25 Thread Maxim Levitsky
I did some brief look, and discovered a workaround, or maybe even a fix:

The message you see comes from gnome-terminal, but it can work fine
without gconf, or maybe check for it is broken:

in terminal.c:

  /* If the gconf daemon isn't available (e.g. because there's no dbus
   * session bus running), we'd crash later on. Tell the user about it
   * now, and exit. See bug #561663.
   */
  if (!gconf_ping_daemon ())
{
  g_printerr (Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.\n);
  exit (1);
}


If I comment out this condition block, then it works just fine

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-25 Thread Jim10
Maxim Levitsky wrote:
QUOTE: @Jim, this isn't what makes it fail.
The problem is that if I launch nautilus as root, I can't open terminal from it.

Do'nt understand that, opening a terminal from within nautilus?

But OK, I do understand that the real problem must be some bug in the
gconf deamon so we will wait for the solution of that I suppose.

Gr,
Jim

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

2009-04-25 Thread Maxim Levitsky
** Summary changed:

- Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error
+ Cannot start gnome-terminal because of gconf error

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-24 Thread Matt Wintergarden
I'm having the same error.

I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 final.

$ sudo gnome-terminal
Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-24 Thread Peter Cordes
Thanks to everyone for confirming that this happens under normal
circumstances.  No further confirmation is required.  Just subscribe to
the bug without making a post, unless you have anything new to add.
(Correct me if I'm overstepping here, Ubuntu maintainers.)

 Further posts on this thread should be about what to do about this, or
ideas for how the relevant programs and libraries should behave so
gnome-terminal can start when gnome-settings-daemon isn't already
running.

 I've always found it kind of messy the way KDE programs start daemons
that clutter your terminal with log messages even after the first KDE
program (that started them) has exitted.  If it wasn't for the messages
on stdout or stderr, it wouldn't be so bad.  Obviously, you don't want
to hide the messages either, so I don't really see any good solution.  I
guess it's something you get used to as a user, though.  I start most of
my long-lived GUI stuff from one screen(1) window, so only one window
will get clogged with messages if any of them feel like spewing.  So it
would probably work to start any required daemons when they're needed.

  I don't see any obvious solution, if there's no way around requiring a
daemon.  Hmm, possibly if there's no daemon, read settings from a file
yourself?  Using the same code (in a library) that the daemon uses to
get the settings?  This might have to be read-only to avoid danger in
case the daemon does start while gnome-terminal is running...

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-17 Thread Daniel Stoni
Hello Folks,
I just encountered this problem during LiveCD Building with Ubuntu 
Customization Kit. I used Xubuntu CD image as base so far, always worked well - 
now with 9.04 rc / Ubuntu Edition this problem comes when selecting 'run 
console'. If unsolved, LiveCD building with UCK is jeopardized, unless the 
scripts get patched with a workaround as mentioned above. Will dive deeper now, 
just fyi. Regards, Daniel

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-16 Thread Scholli
Can put somebody this bug as medium-importance? It's a very nerving bug!
Thx

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-15 Thread donpaolo
Jaunty beta.

affects me too, both if I run it with sudo and if I run it remotely with
ssh:

$ sudo gnome-terminal
[sudo] password for paolo: 
Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.


$ ssh -Yf paolo gnome-terminal
pa...@paolo's password: 
pa...@parroco:~$ Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.

Notably the issue is only with gnome-terminal. All other applications
run well in both situations.

Also when local pc = intrepid, remote = jaunty : running gnome-terminal
with ssh = the same error

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-13 Thread Maxim Levitsky
Affects me too.
Jaunty with all updates

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-09 Thread Peter Cordes
I noticed this problem because my .fluxbox/startup wasn't starting my
gnome-terminal anymore.  (that's a shell script run by startfluxbox that
runs some X clients then execs /usr/bin/fluxbox.  I put some of my
startup stuff in it.)

 If I run
/usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon 
before gnome-terminal, then it works.  If I leave that commented out, 
gnome-terminal refuses to start, with the Failed to contact the GConf daemon; 
exiting. error message everyone's reporting.  Obviously when gnome-terminal is 
run as root, there's no root-owned gconf daemon for it to talk to.  (BTW, why 
would you want to do that?  sudo -s not good enough?)

 I already had /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon in my fluxbox startup, but
I used to run it as

gnome-terminal --geometry=132x30 --tab-with-profile=default 
--tab-with-profile=default --tab-with-profile=default 
(sleep 1  setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps  xset r rate 195 60  
/usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon ) 

 I use sleep to spread out the disk I/O load of starting X a bit.
gnome-terminal used to load, then after gnome-settings-daemon loaded,
the font would switch to my configured font.  But now my desktop was
coming up with no terminal.  gnome-terminal would work later, since by
then gnome-settings-daemon would be started.

 So now I do
/usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon 
(sleep 1  gnome-terminal --geometry=132x30 --tab-with-profile=default 
--tab-with-profile=default --tab-with-profile=default  )
(sleep 1  setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps  xset r rate 195 60 )

 and my X startup script should start everything nicely.

 If gnome stuff is going to require daemons, they should start them
automatically if they're not running.  KDE stuff does that.  If GNOME
can come up with a convincing reason why this is a bad idea, then this
is not a bug.  Although it had better be documented, and the error
message should suggest starting gnome-settings-daemon.  So IMHO
something has to change before this bug can be closed.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-04-09 Thread Peter Cordes
forgot to say that this is maybe not gconf2's bug, but rather a bug in
things that use it.  (esp. if the fix is a more useful error message.)

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-31 Thread Stepan Roucka
I confirm this bug with todays updates. It affects probably most of
other GNOME programs. I tried epiphany, gnome-terminal, and update-
manager and all of them fail, which makes them unusable over ssh. Is
there some way to start the gconf manually?

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-30 Thread Gilles Teisseire
Hi!

Same for me on jaunty beta,

can't open gnome terminal as root


error message:  Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-30 Thread shevegen
Have this issue also - anyone has an idea how to resolve it? Obviously
gnome-terminal needs something from gconf, or expects it to run (in a
special manner perhaps?)...hmm

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-23 Thread Andreas Moog
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #555745
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555745

** Changed in: gconf
   Status: New = Unknown

** Changed in: gconf
 Bugwatch: GNOME Bug Tracker #576346 = GNOME Bug Tracker #555745

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-23 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gconf
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-22 Thread endeneu
I also have this bug.UbuntuJauty,all last updates
Temporary solution  $ gnome-terminal -e sudo -i

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-22 Thread Andreas Moog
Thank you for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the
developers of the software. You can track it and make comments at:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576346


** Changed in: gconf2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Triaged

** Also affects: gconf via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576346
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-22 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gconf
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error

2009-03-06 Thread Mystique
does not work for me too

# gksudo gnome-terminal
Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.

# gksudo synaptic
or
# gksudo nautilus

working.

wanna have the root-terminal menu-entry enabled, but does'n  work

any solution?

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