[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
This was fixed when gnome-panel was ported to GTK 3 last year. gnome- panel works pretty well in Ubuntu 12.04. ** No longer affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu Hardy) ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Oops, seems like upload tool doesn't like hidden files or at least it failed. Rename to .gnome2_panel_lock_down after downloading if you like. ** Attachment added: gnome2_panel_lock_down https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/2674445/+files/gnome2_panel_lock_down -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
While it's great that locking down the panel solves this annoying bug, i like to change my panel configuration from time to time and as i am lazy i like to do that from the panel itself. As i didn't found any panel applet for this job i wrote this little shell script, which i trigger through a regular panel launcher. If you like to do that as well: - download the script somewhere (at best in your home directory, as it's by default a hidden file) - make sure it got execute permissions - create a launcher in the panel and enter the location of the script as command (like /home/USER/.gnome2_panel_lock_down) - install the libnotify-bin package OR disable notifications in the script with your favorite editor (like NOTIFY=off) Have fun. To me this solution is rather nice, also because the amount of people still caring about the old panel is quite shrinking and i don't think this will ever get fixed. ** Attachment added: .gnome2_panel_lock_down https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/2674435/+files/.gnome2_panel_lock_down -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
As the upload tool of launchpad doesn't work right now, here is my lazy lock down script: #!/bin/sh ### Config NOTIFY=on #(on/off) LOCK_TITLE=Panel Lock Down LOCK_MSG=Locking the GNOME panel UNLOCK_TITLE=Panel Lock Down UNLOCK_MSG=Unlocking the GNOME panel LOCK_ICON=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gdu-encrypted-lock.png UNLOCK_ICON=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/gdu-encrypted-unlock.png ### Dependency checking if [ -z $(which gconftool-2) ]; then if [ -n $(which gconftool-2) ]; then zenity --warning --text Error. No binary found for gconftool-2! --title Panel Lock Down else echo Panel Lock Down: Error. No binary found for gconftool-2! fi exit 1 fi if [ $NOTIFY = on ] [ -z $(which notify-send) ]; then SCRIPT_LOCATION=$(pwd)/$(basename $0) if [ -n $(which zenity) ]; then zenity --warning --text Notifcations failed! Please install the libnotify-bin package or disable notifications in $SCRIPT_LOCATION --title Panel Lock Down else echo Panel Lock Down: Notifcations failed! Please install the libnotify-bin package or disable notifications in $SCRIPT_LOCATION fi NOTIFY=off fi ### Main if [ $(gconftool-2 -g /apps/panel/global/locked_down) = true ]; then [ $NOTIFY = on ] notify-send -i $UNLOCK_ICON $UNLOCK_TITLE $UNLOCK_MSG gconftool-2 -s /apps/panel/global/locked_down --type=bool false elif [ $(gconftool-2 -g /apps/panel/global/locked_down) = false ]; then [ $NOTIFY = on ] notify-send -i $LOCK_ICON $LOCK_TITLE $LOCK_MSG gconftool-2 -s /apps/panel/global/locked_down --type=bool true else if [ -n $(which zenity) ]; then zenity --warning --text Error. Undefined state of global panel lock down! --title Panel Lock Down else echo 'Panel Lock Down: Error. Undefined state of global panel lock down!' fi exit 1 fi -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I confirm that NicoLehmann's work-around in comment #214 works. Setting global/locked_down on the panel prevents the applets from wandering during screen resolution changes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
screenshot of my panel ** Attachment added: screenshot https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/2569178/+files/Screenshot.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Attachment added: Screenshot.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/2569183/+files/Screenshot.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 18 Apr 2011, at 23:52, arand 44...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: ** Description changed: The items on the gnome panel is disordered in some cases, one of these being changing the screen reolution, possibly other, more random, cases as well. - Temporary solution: Backup the state of your panel: - gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel panel_backup.xml + gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel panel_backup.xml and then restore it whenever it gets messed up: gconftool-2 --load panel_backup.xml killall gnome-panel (kills and auto-respawns, possibly need to run gnome-panel as well) - I have noticed for a while now that the above-mentioned phenomenon occurs when I, say, return from a shut-down. However, the strange thing is that it only happens on some occations. I don't really know what the problem is, so I can't, unfortunately, post more information. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Papercutters, which is subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations Status in Desktop panel for GNOME: Fix Released Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid Status in “gnome-panel” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “gnome-panel” source package in Hardy: Triaged Bug description: The items on the gnome panel is disordered in some cases, one of these being changing the screen reolution, possibly other, more random, cases as well. - Temporary solution: Backup the state of your panel: gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel panel_backup.xml and then restore it whenever it gets messed up: gconftool-2 --load panel_backup.xml killall gnome-panel (kills and auto-respawns, possibly need to run gnome-panel as well) - I have noticed for a while now that the above-mentioned phenomenon occurs when I, say, return from a shut-down. However, the strange thing is that it only happens on some occations. I don't really know what the problem is, so I can't, unfortunately, post more information. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I am observing this behaviour in lucid, but didn't see it in karmic 9.10. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:38, avdd 44...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I am observing this behaviour in lucid, but didn't see it in karmic 9.10. I observed that issue in general only after you first moved something on the right side manually. Or basically, as long as you re-align your panels (content) on a large screen and then working only = that size, everything works. -- Martin Wildam http://www.google.com/profiles/mwildam -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
It seems the problem is gone in Natty Gnome Classic mode: In Natty the Indicator Applet Complete is used. It says An applet to hold all of the system indicators. This applet is a container which holds other applets. The good thing is, that the individual applets _cannot_ be moved but only the whole applet container! With this applet container it seems that this applet solves the problem with moving applets apparently around! This nice Indicator Applet Complete is avalaible in Lucid LTS, too. But I haven't tested it there. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
felix.rommel, the problem is not gone in Natty. The problem is only a bit less bad, because all the indicators are grouped in one applet. But the order of different applets still gets messed up sometimes. The problem should be gone in Oneiric Ocelot though, because of the upgrade to GNOME 3. I haven't tested it myself, but in the changelogs they say that in gnome-panel 3 all the old annoying bugs of gnome-panel 2 have been fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:21, Geert Jan Alsem gj_al...@yahoo.com wrote: felix.rommel, the problem is not gone in Natty. The problem is only a bit less bad, because all the indicators are grouped in one applet. But the order of different applets still gets messed up sometimes. Yep, I have tested on Natty, and still there. The problem should be gone in Oneiric Ocelot though, because of the upgrade to GNOME 3. I haven't tested it myself, but in the changelogs they say that in gnome-panel 3 all the old annoying bugs of gnome-panel 2 have been fixed. From what I have seen until now from Gnome 3 I don't like it - either prefer Unity. I hope it will all come to a good end until next LTS on 12.04... -- Martin Wildam http://www.google.com/profiles/mwildam -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Description changed: The items on the gnome panel is disordered in some cases, one of these being changing the screen reolution, possibly other, more random, cases as well. - Temporary solution: Backup the state of your panel: - gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel panel_backup.xml + gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel panel_backup.xml and then restore it whenever it gets messed up: gconftool-2 --load panel_backup.xml killall gnome-panel (kills and auto-respawns, possibly need to run gnome-panel as well) - I have noticed for a while now that the above-mentioned phenomenon occurs when I, say, return from a shut-down. However, the strange thing is that it only happens on some occations. I don't really know what the problem is, so I can't, unfortunately, post more information. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: gnome-panel Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can confirm this on my Debian unstable with gnome-panel 2.30.2-4 for i386. I have this problem sometimes when the screen resolution is too small and the panel can't contain all the applets. For example starting a game with wine and the game changes the resolution, I obtain this bug. The funny thing is that it doesn't delete applets, it just change them position so the problem of containing applets still remains. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
@reif: The short answer is that this bug will not be fixed. For more context, please read these comments in this thread: Comment #110 Comment #188 Comment #197 Comment #201 Comment #202 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can confirm this on my ASUS EeePC 1201T with Ubuntu 10.10. I think it happens when I switch back to the internal monitor coming back from an external VGA LCD with a larger resolution than the internal monitor. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 Title: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: gnome-panel Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Let's see... a bug reported in in May 2006.. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. BTW: Fix Released - Confirmed is a step backwards. I think this bug will still be open in 2016. I switched to another distro that uses KDE, it doesn't have this bug, though it has some other. Though it seems it's still less than GNOME. I personally think entire graphical user interface in linux should be redone from scratch. It's just a hack on top of another hack and it is full of race conditions which cause tons of heisenbugs. It's almost like windows 9x. Linux by itself isn't bad, it's very good when you use it from command line, but GUI is extremely frustrating because of small random bugs like this. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
It's more a workaround than a solution for me but this seems to work: gconftool-2 -s /apps/panel/global/locked_down --type=bool true if you want to change something you have to set it back to false. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. - We missed this for Maverick. Natty will use Unity for the desktop as well, and gnome-panel will not be used. Also no one knows what is causing the bug. For further information about papercuts criteria, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut. Don't worry though, this bug has been marked as Invalid only in the papercuts project. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: maverick-round-7-notifications+gtk = None ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Assignee: Ryan Maki (ryan.maki) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Low = Undecided -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can confirm this bug in Ubuntu 10.10 with GNOME 2.30.2 When I reboot ,settings are lost. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
sk8erbender: Thank you for the bug confirmation. However, Dylan McCall put it succinctly in comment #202: The source of this problem is really close to the heart of the panel's design. It allows user-defined positions for applets, and these are stored with absolute values (in pixels). No amount of fiddling will change that that is a very poor, inflexible design. Unless a dev corrects me, this bug will not be fixed. It will only go away when a replacement is enacted, or there is a complete redesign of the fundamental panel code architecture and assumptions. In the meantime, there are a number of workarounds in the discussion above, but for now, this paper cut will continue to bleed. Some workaround suggestions in the comments above: Comment #110 Comment #197 Comment #201 -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
heh then im gonna change to lxde maybe peppermint ice or something ;) -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
or just play around with awn ;) On 10/25/2010 09:02 PM, sk8erbender wrote: heh then im gonna change to lxde maybe peppermint ice or something ;) -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can confirm this bug in Ubuntu 10.04 with GNOME 2.30.2 I have Ubuntu installed on my laptop which I like to connect to a large external monitor when I am working at home. I have tried locking/unlocking all applets and have made sure that the applets I want stuck to the right edge of the screen have the panel-right-stick option checked in gconf. No matter what, when I change resolution or reboot, these settings are lost. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I don't have the fortitude necessary to read all 205 comments before mine, but the problem is not just with launcher icons on the top panel, in case that was not yet brought up by someone else. I constantly have to reorder the icons on the right-hand side of the lower panel. It is annoying, to say the least. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Will be fixed in maverick in some update? Because, as said Keith Allcock, gnome-panel version included is after to the fixed one. Perhaps is it fixed in debian packages and not in ubuntu packages already? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
This bug is marked as fixed when using gnome-panel - 1:2.29.92-0ubuntu1, yet I am running maverick with gnome-panel 1:2.30.2 and still have the issue. Has the fix not been included in the maverick packages or is it not fixed? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Please re-open this bug, it is not fixed in up-to-date Lucid. Please increase importance, this is affecting at least 250 people. The panel shuffle is alive and well in gnome-panel version 1:2.30.2-0ubuntu0.2 It has been around for over a year. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
@Zoubidoo You should write Your concerns on the GNOME bug instance, not here. Nowhere here is this bug marked as Fix Released. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Given the number of duplicates and people subscribed to this bug, I thought I'd offer a workaround that I recently discovered: Docky. As I currently see it, the gist of docky is to recreate, in open-source fashion, the OS X dock. On OS X I find the dock annoying, but since installing Docky, I rather enjoy it. I believe it only available if you're running Karmic or newer. For Lucid, it's already part of the repositories: $ sudo apt-get install docky If you're running Karmic, I direct you to the docky site, but it's basically 3 command line operations, not one: http://www.go-docky.com/ For myself, I've even gained some vertical space on my screen because I'm now able to remove the bottom panel, after enabling fade away in Docky. A suggestion. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
You now what, I'm finally sick of it. This bug, and the associated saga behind it, is absolutely ridiculous. Me, personally, I lodged a ticket for this bug back sometime in 2006. I was quite enthusiastic about doing my bit to help improve Ubuntu. It's now been more than four years since I originally put this bug in. It was labelled a duplicate of all these others, so I was put into the mailing list for them as well. For four years, I have received email notifications as people discussed the bug. Sometimes it was once every few weeks. Sometimes it was a few a day. Most of the time I just deleted them, but I never had the heart to label them as spam (nor could be bothered to remove myself from the mailing lists). I have no doubt these emails/comments amount in the hundreds. Discussing the complexities of solving why a bunch of icons swap their order when you reboot. That's it. Four years later, I've gone through many desktop computers (though have kept the same laptop).. and through all 11 major releases of Ubuntu in this time, it has never been fixed, and still annoys the shit out of me in the latest version of Mint I installed a few days ago. But the most incredulous rant inducing thing is not that the bug hasn't been fixed (Windows has plenty of irritating issues that have plagued it since 95 right to 7), but that people can discuss it for four years with hundreds of comments and neither fix the problem or even get any closer to fixing it. It is a damning indictment of the Ubuntu community - something that can, and does do great things, but also wastes a huge fuck-ton of time. So in essence, you all waste a huge fuck-ton of time. Would love to see this fixed once and for all in Meerkat. But it won't be. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Passa: I understand your frustration. But here are your options: 1) Go upstream and try to help out GNOME with patches or ideas on patches. 2) Unsubscribe from this bug. 3) Try a different desktop environment. I'm very sorry that you've been badly afflicted by this bug but there is nothing that can be done until there is someone that can do it. The best that we (as in Ubuntu/launchpad) can do is generate ideas and patches (which has been done) until something happens. This bug is certainly an example of one of the problems that plagues GNOME: five+ year old annoyance bugs. But unless there is something we can do personally to help, I don't think we have a right to swear up a storm (on an indirect bug report, no less). Also, side note to Kevin. I think you might find with some research that Mac is actually the one that, in closed-source fashion, recreated the Looking-Glass dock :). -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Thank you Chancellor, I stand corrected on that front. Apologies to any I might have insulted by my OS X Dock recreation description. Regardless, I suggest it's a good concept, or at least a usable workaround to this fairly annoying bug. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
If you're looking for an easy workaround, then I'll present you with one: use two floating top panels, one for the menubar, and other stuff you have on the left, and one for clock, session menus, notifiers and other things you have on the right. As your resolution changes back and forth, the panels are moved back and forth, but the icons stay where they are relative to each other. Problem solved. At least for now. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
The source of this problem is really close to the heart of the panel's design. It allows user-defined positions for applets, and these are stored with absolute values (in pixels). No amount of fiddling will change that that is a very poor, inflexible design. A better design can be seen in XFCE's panel and in some kinds of customizable toolbars like that in Firefox and some Gnome applications like Epiphany and Evince. Even if someone _does_ figure out how to maintain applet layout when the resolution changes, there will be a hundred more bugs from the same place. What this really calls for is a true gnome-panel successor. (Which is a nice opportunity to deal with our last Bonobo dependency, too). I get the feeling such a project would actually be quite satisfying to do. More-so than digging into this bug. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: gnome-panel Importance: Unknown = High -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I started facing this issue yesterday. I'm using a fully updated Lucid. Since I started using Lucid I've had issues with icons in the panels not being rendered properly [See attached screenshot1 and screenshot2]. It happens occasionally on reboot, maybe once every 4 or 5 restarts. Since yesterday I started experiencing the shuffled icon prob [Screenshot3]. I put them back into order but they get shuffled on restart. ** Attachment added: Screenshot1_wrong_display.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/1490879/+files/Screenshot1_wrong_display.png -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Attachment added: Screenshot2_white_strip.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/1490880/+files/Screenshot2_white_strip.png -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Attachment added: Screenshot-3.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/+attachment/1490881/+files/Screenshot-3.png -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Branch unlinked: lp:ubuntu/lucid/gnome-panel -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: lucid-round-1 = maverick-round-7-notifications+gtk -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can confirm this bug is still happening in lucid after a resolution change. It seems that the panel changes it's settings after that. I usually fix it with the gconf-editor. There I set he position of all the applets in the right using the option panel right stick. For example faster user switch applet should be in position 0 (in pixels) with panel right stick. That means that this applet would be always in the right, in every resolution. But when I change resolution and the applets move randomly I found that faster user switch applet is in position 884 without panel right stick (that means counting from left side). I don't know why it reconfigures itself every time the resolution is changed. PD. Sorry for my bad English -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I still have this problem in KK 64 bit. Has no fix been released? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
this bug has become worse for me since upgrading to lucid. i had the problem with previous versions of ubuntu but after resetting the positions a few times gnome seemed to learn. The problem is not related to rebooting or restarting x or anything like that. the problem is that at home i connect a big lcd monitor to my laptop via a vga cable, and when away obviously i just use the laptop screen. on changing from one to the other the applets are all in the wrong order, or floating in space. im using the proprietary Nvidia driver, although in my opinion the problem is not related to that. i see the fix as being achieved by having the actual order of the applets saved, not just the positions. any space should be saved, as well as noting when applets are touching, or when an applet touches the end of the panel. when applets are touching each other or the edge they will remain stuck together or to the edge, with the space being dynamically altered. floating applets would be a special case, and are detected by noting that nothing is stuck to either side except space. i realise this is probably far from the logic currently used to determine the locations, but i would point out that what i have suggested is very similar to the way the window controls are positioned on any gnome window. to see the way this is set up open gconf-editor and go to Apps - Metacity - General and choose the key named button_layout. by the way, if like me you hate the new lucid window control layout see this link: http://hubpages.com/hub/Move-Window-Controls-back-to-right-in- Ubuntu-1004 kind regards -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Confirm this, Karmic updated to 25.05.2010. Where is the fix?? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Please, do not post comments that just say it happens to me too. Instead, use the button this bug affect n persons at the top of the page. The goal of this button is to avoid flooding in comments and to make a difference between affected people and comments bringing information to solve the problem. Thanks. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
DIS-confirming the fix, assuming 'released' means it should be in the Lucid repos. With latest Lucid (10.04LTS) upgraded as of 5/18/2010, icons were scrambled after changing screen resolutions and then rebooting., -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
For all of you still suffering from this bug, I attached a script called save-panel which works around this bug. It reads the icon positions from gconf and generates a second script, restore-panel, which restores the icon locations to their saved positions. To use it... 1. Copy save-panel to your home folder. 2. Open the terminal. Run cd ~ 3. Make it executable using chmod +x ./save-panel 4. Run ./save-panel, this will generate the restore-panel script in the current directory. 5. To test the restore-script, move a few icons on your panel and then run ./restore-panel. The panel should restart with the icons in the right place. If the script worked correctly, it can then be added to the Ubuntu's Startup applications to fix icon reshuffling on startup... 1. System - Preferences - Startup Applications. 2. On the Startup Programs tab click Add 3. Enter Restore Panel for name. 4. Browse to your restore-script in your home folder for the command. 5. Press save. When Ubuntu starts up, the panel will be restarted and the icons locations will be restored. ** Attachment added: save/restore icon positions http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48520720/save-panel -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I had this problem after connecting to and then disconnecting from an external monitor (up-to-date 10.4). Mainly, I want the OFF button to stay put in the corner. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
It must have relationship between resolution and icons position. Some of them hold their position (position is fixed) and some of them are moveable. look at the screenshot http://www.neph.cz/tmp/screenshot.png (It is realy ugly, isn't it?) ** Attachment added: wrong position of icons http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48329079/screenshot.png -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I have same problem and It does not help... I'm working on HP 8510p notebook with attached external monitor (HDMI). Ubuntu 10.04, last ATI drivers. ATI CCC v2.12 $fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 OpenGL version string: 3.2.9756 Compatibility Profile Context After switching from NB panel to External LCD and disabling NB LCD was everything ok. And then I resized external LCD from default resolution to preffered (1280x900 1920x1080) and order of right top icons is different.. I can not now reset wrong order (even with changing resolution back to 1280x900) -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I experienced this bug again yesterday with the kernel upgrade. In Virtualbox - in Fullscreen mode the whole time: Start with a fresh install of Lucid Build Virtualbox Guest Additions Upgraded to kernel version 2.6.32-22-generic Reboot rebuild Virtualbox Guest Additions Reboot Icons lose their positions Perhaps this would be reproducible toggling the screen resolution between 1280x800 and 800x600 - which is what effectively happened between reboots... -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I installed 10.04 a week ago, and I can verify that I still have this problem. It didnt occur to me then, but I connected my laptop to the TV the other day, it could be related. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
hit Alt+F2 and run killall gnome-panel. give me feedback if it helps... -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Just to add that I have the same problem with a fully updated 10.04. Everything was fine until I attached to a TV with a VGA cable and now every time I reboot the order of panel applets is different. Stace. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: gnome-panel Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Whoa did another fix just get released or is the Updater flaked out? I hit this bug yesterday. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
@ Comment #176 No, it's a new fix. :) -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can reproduce the bug too with the method from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082/comments/171 Seems the bug is still not fixed ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Fix Released = Confirmed ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I thought this bug was fixed. For a long time, it seemed like when I rotate the screen on my Thinkpad X61 Tablet, the icons would stay put where they belong. Recently, I think maybe just in the last day or two, the icons move around like they used to. I wonder if a patch got reverted? It is certainly a regression. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Concept of storing positions of applets in absolute values is fundamentally wrong. If we have a bunch of objects on panel, all named, i.e. applet1 applet2... Then it would be better to store their position in one gconf string or list key, like that: applet1,applet2,applet3,applet4:12%,applet5:16%, applet6, applet7:70%,applet8,applet9,applet10 That means: applets 1-3 are stashed on the left. Applets 9-11 are on the right. Between innermost applets of these two blocks there is an area which can be mapped by %. So applet4 is placed on 12% between applet3 (0%) and applet8 (100%). Applet5 and applet6 are grouped around 16% position, applet7 is on 70%. Nothing will switch places. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Confirming on lucid with current updates. Launched vavoom in lesser resolution than my desktop, applets got muddled on next login. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I can confirm this bug in Lucid beta1, updated today. Can be reproduced by: - Change res from native (1680x1050) to 1024x768 - Logout - Login and Change the Res back to 1680x1050 -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I don't know if it is supposed to be fixed in Lucid but if so, it doesn't work for me on two different systems with current Lucid. Panel icons and the clock are still changing position after connecting another monitor. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Well, here's a solution, someone might like. Browsing around the web I happened to come across a very nice panel add-on. It's like the Win7 panel, but does even more. The icons look exactly like as if u just add them to the gnome panel, but obviously they can do more. It's a development version, but anyway far more stable, than the gnome-panel. So u can remove most of your launchers. No problem found by me so far. Worth to a try... ** Attachment added: Screenshot.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40972965/Screenshot.png -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
i'll try the lucid version if you tell me what exactly i need to install and where from? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Tags added: gloam -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
which makes me switch distro as soon as I'll get some time to reinstall the system. how will that help there since the bug is a gnome-panel one and will be on any other distribution? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
the right mailing list and I'll file my complaints over there the bugzilla url is at the start of the launchpad webpage, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341441 -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Notice the last comment on gnome bugzilla says : Vincent Untz [gnome-panel developer] 2010-03-09 03:11:21 UTC This problem has been fixed in the development version. The fix will be available in the next major software release. Thank you for your bug report. Maybe we will be able to get it into Lucid ? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Yes, the change will be in the 2.30 tarball ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
I'm glad it's fixed, but still the problem is that this was marked as a low-priority bug that has been there for more than 4 years, who decides the importance of a bug? I guess if we need Ubuntu to be used by everyone, more attention should be brought to bugs directly affecting the end user experience, I guess all people here agree with me on this, don't you? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
you really argue about the settings? it doesn't make any practical difference there, the setting mainly reflects if the bug is a security issue or crashing datas or an annoyance, it could have been set to any value it would not have been worked in any different way, the fact that it's set to low doesn't prevent anybody to work on the issue -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
@Ahmad From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance : Low: Bugs which affect functionality, but to a lesser extent than most bugs, examples are: * Ones that can be easily worked around * Ones that affect unusual configurations or uncommon hardware * A bug that has a moderate impact on a non-core application * A cosmetic/usability issue that does not limit the functionality of an application Cheers. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
how will that help there since the bug is a gnome-panel one and will be on any other distribution? The panel alone is not the reason enough to switch, I wish it was the only issue I am experiencing. Just look at the bugs I reported, and it's not even all of them, I started feeling like reporting it is just a waste of time. What's worst about ubuntu is that it constantly lives in state of regressions. Each version N issues get fixed and N new issues appear. For example in Intrepid most annoying thing is that my sound randomly stopped working again (it was working most of the time in Jaunty). Hibernation doesn't work... well it works but when laptop comes back my X session is killed and I see login screen. There is (or was, didn't bother to check anymore) issue with dual monitors, I started switching using xrandr as a workaround. Also I mentioned about upgrading. From past experience I noticed that when I upgrade instead of doing clean install I get far more regressions. For example my friend did ubgrade his ubuntu (actually it was xubuntu). He had setup with 3 monitors, it totally messed up his X11 settings to the point he had to use failsafe. I also don't really understand some decisions made by the team. In one release (Intrepid?) OpenOffice 3.0 was about being relased. The time of the release was few days before official Ubuntu release cycle. At that time also a nasty bug in intel wifi card was reported, that was crashing the whole system. Decision was made to release that version anyway, but not include OOo 3.0, because it wasn't fully tested. WTF? I prefer much more OO crashing than my entire system, besides OO has its own release cycle and it went through its own testing stages. There's a plenty of race conditions, which causes bugs randomly appear. I think it's due to the fact that ubuntu is a mix of random components that supposed to work together, but they often fail. I'm wondering why some things aren't done. I'm pretty sure there are much smarter people than me on the team, I'm genuinely interested what are the difficulties behind it: - why there's no clear line between what's considered system and what's not? e.g. system binaries aren't in packages, and they're not updated except for? I really love how clear in this aspec FreeBSD is. The system binaries are only updated with the system, if someone wants newer version of a tool, tehy can just instal from the ports which will be in /usr/local (the original binaries are still accessible to the rest of the system, so the port won't impact it in any way) - why fixed release cycles? isn't better to not set up a deadline, polish the product and release it when its ready. Right now all the versions feel like late alpha early beta releases. - why non-essential updates to system components are commited? (those usually break things, why not give option to install newer version separately, like I mentioned above) - why new functionality is placed over stability? I'm not trying to make ubuntu another debian-stable, but many features that are added look neat, but they're unstable themselves. Ubuntu is great when it works... I just wanted to give you my perspective. There was a lot of bashing of windows in 90s and there's still some. I'm not fan of Microsoft but after they were bashed, they dramatically improved their system. It happened twice: first with Windows 2000 (stability) and now with Windows 7 (resource usage). Both of them in past were linux domain. Ubuntu with its random quirks unfortunatelly still feels like Windows 98 (of course not as bad as the original, but compared to today's Windows and Mac OS X it seems no longer be in the lead). -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-panel - 1:2.29.92-0ubuntu1 --- gnome-panel (1:2.29.92-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low * New upstream version: Panel - Build with latest GSeal'ed GTK+ - Display GenericName in tooltip if there's no Comment - Fix applet right-sticking on screen resolution change (lp: #44082) - Make email addresses hyperlinks in about dialog - Use special XDG directory icon names libpanel-applet - Build with latest GSeal'ed GTK+ All Applets - Build with latest GSeal'ed GTK+ Clock Applet - Fix wrong string in documentation - Use icon fallbacks if the theme does not include phases of moon - Validate input in add location dialog Notification Area Applet - Make location of standard status icons predictable * debian/patches/70_relibtoolize.patch: - new version update, downgrade gtk requirement since it builds fine using the current version -- Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:38:51 +0100 ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
could people who are getting the issue regularly install the new version on lucid, restart once their session and comment on try if that's still an issue or not and keep the bug updated to say how it's working? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/gnome-panel -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: In Progress = Fix Committed ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Can people please keep comments focused on the actual bug (which is now fixed upstream anyway), and stop posting general comments unrelated to the issue. The bug tracker isn't an appropriate venue for general comments / discussions about decision making / processes in Ubuntu - you should take those discussions to a forum or mailing list rather than spamming everyone subscribed to this bug -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Maybe I read wrong, but I thought that Lucid was going to ship with 2.28. Would the gnome-panel therefore not have the fix for Lucid? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Aha, and what about fix for karmic? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Wait... is some team a FAILURE AT LIFE or is it just me? I'm sorry, that was rude. Almost as rude as leaving one of the most annoying bugs unfixed for four years, not quite, but close. Don't be a Microsoft! I'm pretty sure even I, yes, I could write the code to fix this in four years time. If I had known this was still an issue I might have done so last summer when I had free time, but I thought surely they've got someone on this. And I was sooo happy with Lucid Lynx because the applets were behaving themselves until just now. Seriously. I don't want to go back to KDE. Fix This! How hard can it be to fix? If you wanted a lazy fix you could load each applet, individually, in the order they're supposed to appear. I don't care if it adds five seconds to the login time as long as we get this fixed, rearranging applets is a complete waste of time, and a baffling failure in UI design. KDE doesn't have this problem last time I checked. Mac doesn't. Even Windows doesn't. In fact, last time I checked EVERY user interface on the planet that has rearrangeable ANYTHING remembers the order you put them in. Am I being overzealous or over-the-top on this issue? I don't mean to be, but it is beyond my comprehension that something like this has been allowed to persist for years on end. Maybe we're suggesting that the grass is greener on the other side so let's wait until Gnome Shell. Yeah, that's the way to fix this bug. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please fix this for the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu. Oh wait, that's the next version. Please, please, please fix it for Lucid Lynx. If this was such an insanely difficult bug to fix, why hasn't the community been directly asked to help fix this bug? If that had happened while I wasn't under a mountain of honors classes at school, I would have been willing to give it a go. (I'm really sorry about the tone and expressions of frustration that may have been unleashed above. Major bugs that get ignored for years on end tend to have a very real effect on my sensibility) -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Oh, and about the part where I said Even Windows doesn't. Think about it. Who on earth would just shrug their shoulders for 4 years when every other time they login... the start menu magically moves. Oh look, the Start button is by the clock? who can guess where it'll end up next? nobody knows! - if this situation seems unimaginable, how can the gnome-panel situation be at all imaginable? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
wouldn't it have been useful to spend the time you spent writting those comments trying to fix the issue rather? -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
No, because i'm not familiar with gnome-panel code, it would take me a few hours to get acquainted with how it works. (if i'm correct on how much code there is in the gnome panel) 10/15 minutes of comment writing is a much smaller amount of time. Now if I was familiar with the code, I probably would've worked on that. However, I don't have a few hours to spend just to understand the layout of the code, let alone to fix the problem... I've got too much school work. However, the team of people intimately familiar with the gnome-panel code should either be able to write that code in well under a weekend's worth of work or the gnome- panel should be trashed in favor of a cleaner code base. I know from personal experience that if I am a lazy programmer, code will become unmanageable, making functionality changes nearly impossible. But, if I wrote code in a clean, structured way; development would proceed faster with less bugs, and future revisions to the functionality would be relatively painless. So unless I spend the whole night writing 5 minute comments, I would not have even been able to come close to fixing this bug. Someone who is familiar with the code base should be able to fix the code in a few hours work tops, assuming the code is complicated. If this is not possible, than I think it must be time to reconsider the value of this panel. Perhaps I'm missing some key fact, but I don't think it should take four years of procrastination to fix such a bug as this. Let me know the next time your firefox bookmarks bar rearranges itself. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
you are obviously commenting on the wrong place because nobody in the current ubuntu team is familiar with the gnome-panel codebase, you might want to try on bugzilla rather but adding probably comment complaining about the lack of people working on this code will probably not bring new hackers -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Yeah, it's a typical Ubuntu bug, nothing serious, just annoying. So U want to say that the gnome panel was lazily programmed? Well, it's only to hope that the relaease of gnome 3 will fix it. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
(If you suggest that this fix cannot be done in a reasonable amount of work, then I would be more than happy to lead the initiative for making a more reliable panel. However, that is not something I want to do. I want the team to just sit down and rewrite the code that either loads the applets or arranges them, but what I want is not always possible it seems.) -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Josh, I'm pretty sure the bug is much more complicated to fix it in few hours... I remember someone was already fed up and said he'll work on it. If it was just few hours I'm sure he would already finish. Don't get me wrong, I'm also fed up by this, and it's one of those tiny bugs that aren't critical but annoying as hell, which makes me switch distro as soon as I'll get some time to reinstall the system. (which should be in a week). Sebastien: I understand your position, that you can't expect much from people who do this in their free time, but please don't label this bug as low importance. It might seem like it is non important bug (especially for desktop users), but add 2 or 3 bugs with same annoyance and watch people switching to alternatives. After upgrading from Karmic to Jaunty I started booting to my windows partition more often. It's not due some problems, but it's because of all of those tiny bugs and race conditions that Ubuntu is full of. For example my sound worked well after installing Jaunty (I did it from scratch because from past experience upgraded system had random problems - another issue). After installing couple updates, my sound suddenly stopped to work. I didn't install any audio application, in fact I didn't even know that the look of mixer changed since Karmic, so I'm fairly sure it didn't break, I also know it worked in past because I was watching a movie after I installed Jaunty. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
Oh, and @zsolt, i'm not saying its lazily programmed... i'm just suggesting that its the most probable cause of a four year failure to fix this bug. And @Sebastien, point me to the right mailing list and I'll file my complaints over there; but I was under the impression that those places were linked to gnome related bugs in Launchpad somehow or another? I seem to be wrong. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
@takeda64, ok. That's unfortunate. Perhaps Gnome Shell will redeem Ubuntu of this troubling bug. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
This bug was reported four years ago and still hasn't been fixed? Seriously? Just wow. Anyways... I have this problem too and it's very annoying. No matter what computer I install Ubuntu on (and I've installed it on a lot of computers) after rebooting the icons are always rearranged. Intel video cards, Nvidia video cards, ATI video cards, dual monitor, single monitor, LCD monitor, CRT monitor, laptop, desktop, Ubuntu 9.04, Ubuntu 9.10, 640x480 resolution, 1024x768 resolution, 1280x1024 resolution, it doesn't matter it always happens at least every other reboot. It's very embarrassing to install Ubuntu on my friends computers when they are interested in trying it and having their stuff randomly rearranged every time they reboot. How am I supposed to recommend Ubuntu when it does this? Please change the importance of this bug to something above Low because it is much more then that. Sorry if I seem a bit annoyed by this, I wasn't until I saw how old this bug is. -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
hey guys, I would like to confirm this... as though there aren't enough already!! :) Ubuntu Karmic as well as several versions before karmic. this is probably one of the most irritating bugs on gnome I dont know if this is going to be fixed before gnome3 comes out. I havent tested this on Lucid yet but suspect it will be the same coz -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44082] Re: GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 04:13, Coz cosimo...@gmail.com wrote: hey guys, I would like to confirm this... as though there aren't enough already!! :) Ubuntu Karmic as well as several versions before karmic. this is probably one of the most irritating bugs on gnome I dont know if this is going to be fixed before gnome3 comes out. I havent tested this on Lucid yet but suspect it will be the same coz I've done the thing where you place dividers in between each element you have and lock them all down. For the time being it's working fairly consistently for me, but my screen also doesn't change resolutions that often either so ymmv. HTH -- I've discovered the key to success is to never give up. You either learn the right way, or you run out of ways to do it wrong. A win/win situation! -- GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44082 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
