[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 140918 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/140918 Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/478178/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 140918 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/140918 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 140918 Adding stuff to autostart is too difficult * You can subscribe to bug 140918 by following this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/140918/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Possibly a dup of Bug #140918 , which is to handle all the apps' autostart in gnome-session. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Yes that works, but it's not very obvious. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
OK, upstream won't work on it. So we'll have to ask that someone write a patch to get this done in empathy and submit it upstream. Anyone willing to do this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
What about taking the icon from the Applications--Internet--Empathy and dragging it to the entry area in System--Preferences--Startup Applications ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
I have succeeded to run scripts and start applications by gnome- schedule. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Affects gnome-session, since this is the only UI where getting it set up is currently possible, if awkward and poorly discoverable. ** Also affects: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
you just have to dragndrop empathy (a launcher, or the entry in the applications menu) to the list of gnome-session-properties. Is it enough for you? If this is the expected procedure, wouldn't a good starting point to be to add a hint or prompt to let users know this is possible? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 Title: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: maverick-round-3-social-networking = nt2-social-networking -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
@Jim Braux-Zin: you are so right - that would be the obvious behavior. Also, it would be very cool if the me menu could remember ones state between sessions, so, if I was online when I shut down, the me menu (or another part of ubuntu) would automatically try to bring me back to that same state, that is, online. -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Changed in: empathy Status: Unknown = Invalid ** Changed in: empathy Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Unity has drawn my attention to /usr/share/applications/ - perhaps this directory would be of use for this bug? -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = maverick-round-3-chat -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
@Jim Braux-Zin This is very intuitive and this is what I was expecting few days ago when I moved to Lucid (and I still expect it). It would be nice if by selecting the state, empathy will automatically login. Greetings! Vasil //first post :) -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
I think there is an additional consitency problem with Lucid. For the user point of view there should be no difference in behaviour between the Gwibber+gwibber-service (which starts automatically) combination and Empathy+telepathy. I mean that for a user both apps will display notification in the background, both apps are manageable through the MeMenu and the Indicator applet, they should have the same startup behaviour. -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
I have just thought of a simple solution that could make the problem of not automatically launching Empathy less bad, based on my own behaviour and expectations. I suggest that MeMenu could launch Empathy if the user click on Online or Away, or any state other than Offline. This way, on standard startup the MeMenu would show that the user is offline (because Empathy has not been launched) and if he wants to go online he just has to click on Online. What do you think? It would be an Ubuntu only change which won't annoy Gnome or Empathy. There is still the issue of choosing which IM client to launch if Pidgin is installed for example. -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
@Vish Maybe something could be in Startup Programs to automatically give a list of programs that are in the applications menu? That would probably solve 95% of users problems trying to find common programs. What they are referring is that you have to open Startup Applications - Startup Programs and drag Empathy from the Applications menu to the program list. -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
As Adam says there is a need for a standard reliable 'add an application' dialog. At the moment none of the various dialogs for adding applications work very well. The one for selecting which application to use for a given filetype is full of double entries, missing entries and isn't even alphabetical, and the one this bug is about is a shambles. Why does it open to my home directory? There are no applications in there by default. -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
I think we should milestone it for Lucid. -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
to do it right way it would be great that empathy itself has the option (it is milestoned to 2.30 by empathy developers). but it will be a new feature in empathy so not a papercut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Invalid -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Upstream has decided to not fix this problem. They want to use a less discoverable way , Quoting from upstream you just have to dragndrop empathy (a launcher, or the entry in the applications menu) to the list of gnome-session-properties. Is it enough for you? ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Added the One Hundred Paper Cuts project to this, since it seemed like you wanted it added... ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
Can I suggest that until/unless a long term solution is found we set the dialog at 'System Preferences Startup Application Startup Programs Add' to open by default to /usr/bin? That seems to be the most reliable solution for now. This 'adding startup applications' has in reality been a general bug for years now. Surely it's time to do something? -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35356001/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35356003/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35356004/ProcStatus.txt ** Description changed: Binary package hint: empathy Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) Empathy 2.28.1.1 Since I like to have my messenger clients running whenever I'm online I wanted to set that to happen automaticaly. So here's what I tried: * I looked in the preferences of Empathy, and appart from the confusing entry Automatically connect on startup described in bug #322314 there is nothing about connecting. - * I looked under 'System Preferences Startup applications', there is no entry for Empathy so Itry to make one... -* The file browser starts in my home directory so I assume there's a good reason for that and try to find an entry there for empathy. Sadly there's no entry there called empathy. -* Luckily I know a bit about this Ubuntu thing and the Gnome Desktop so I look into the .gnome2 directory. Finally a directory called Empathy. But sadly that only has log files in it. -* Thinking I'm a bit savvy I navigate to /usr/share/empathy ... but again there is no file I can point to to start empathy ... -* Now I'm getting annoyed, nothing useful in /usr/share/gnome/autostart -* Nothing in /usr/share/gnome2 + * I looked under 'System Preferences Startup applications', there is no entry for Empathy so Itry to make one... + * The file browser starts in my home directory so I assume there's a good reason for that and try to find an entry there for empathy. Sadly there's no entry there called empathy. + * Luckily I know a bit about this Ubuntu thing and the Gnome Desktop so I look into the .gnome2 directory. Finally a directory called Empathy. But sadly that only has log files in it. + * Thinking I'm a bit savvy I navigate to /usr/share/empathy ... but again there is no file I can point to to start empathy ... + * Now I'm getting annoyed, nothing useful in /usr/share/gnome/autostart + * Nothing in /usr/share/gnome2 +* /usr/bin/empathy looks promising - maybe I'll be lucky this time. - Now I'm thoroughly annoyed and give up. + Now I'm thoroughly annoyed at this stupid system which doesn't seem to + have any standard way of starting an application! ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 CheckboxSubmission: 70577d17832e34b30176c21d9d564ab0 CheckboxSystem: b845c366ea09c60efa3a45c1b5b21525 Date: Sun Nov 8 08:47:59 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/empathy NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: empathy 2.28.1.1-0ubuntu1 ProcEnviron: - SHELL=/bin/bash - LANG=en_DK.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash + LANG=en_DK.UTF-8 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-14.48-generic SourcePackage: empathy Uname: Linux 2.6.31-14-generic i686 XsessionErrors: - (gnome-settings-daemon:2096): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed - (gnome-settings-daemon:2096): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed - (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2141): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed - (nautilus:2131): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed - (gdu-notification-daemon:2136): GduNotification-WARNING **: No notification area. Notification bubbles will not be displayed. + (gnome-settings-daemon:2096): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed + (gnome-settings-daemon:2096): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed + (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2141): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed + (nautilus:2131): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed + (gdu-notification-daemon:2136): GduNotification-WARNING **: No notification area. Notification bubbles will not be displayed. ** Tags added: 100papercuts gui usability -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 478178] Re: Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #595236 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595236 ** Also affects: empathy via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595236 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Empathy is almost impossible to set as a startup application https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/478178 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
