[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 735233 Option for persistent menus in AppMenu for focused application ** Summary changed: - Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens + Improve Unity menus ** Description changed: Global menu in general (not only in Unity) is very unergonomic on large screens (see the attached screenshot) because if you have a small window somewhere near the low right corner you have to move the cursor all the way up to to panel to reach the menu. I understand why the global menu was used for the netbook edition (it saves space and most windows are maximized), but since Unity is intended to be for the desktop edition there should be an option to switch to the traditional position of the app menu. It would be welcomed by many desktop users. A commonly suggested solution is: [ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [ ] Global Menu only for maximized windows The default is usually suggested as either the first (on) or last (on only for maximized windows). - Desired change: - Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. + Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will + address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the + duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the + implementation of this project. The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': --- Menus Location:Global/Local Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed --- More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve Unity menus To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 735233 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735233 Note: Menu feedback has been taken into consideration, and a set of menu improvements are planned as part of the 12.10 'Enhanced Menu' project (see bug description). This bug is already being used for tracking the status of this project, so I am rolling all the bugs that will be fixed by 'Enhanced Menu' project into this single bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 735233 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735233 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 735233 Option for persistent menus in AppMenu for focused application -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Roshan, LIM is going to work in a little bit different way than that: https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08710.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Roshan, LIM is going to work in a little bit different way than that: https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08710.html @ Danillo: LIM is yet to be in actual code. Now i have a thought on HUD. it is the future right out. LIM may be evolved a bit in the future release. The only way to get LIM code right is through testing with various mouse actions like whether it affect window grabbing, etc. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
The problem should be solved by Locally Integrated Mienus which will arrive in 12.10... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
For 12.10 the LIM is dynamic ie.. for unmaximized windows LIM icon is present and for maximized ones, the LIM is absent and the global menu takes over. The placemnt of LIM icon should be little far(about 6-8 mm) from the windows control buttons(close/minimize/maximize) and clear to the windows title(2-3 mm). The menu is displayed through a hover trigger over the icon. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
A slight suggestion to the hover trigeer is the a light low timeout preferably about one and a half second should be added. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
@TomasHnyk; yes it will be possible a window to have it's menu integrated into the top bar only when it is maximised ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
for ^ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Description updated ** Description changed: Global menu in general (not only in Unity) is very unergonomic on large screens (see the attached screenshot) because if you have a small window somewhere near the low right corner you have to move the cursor all the way up to to panel to reach the menu. I understand why the global menu was used for the netbook edition (it saves space and most windows are maximized), but since Unity is intended to be for the desktop edition there should be an option to switch to the traditional position of the app menu. It would be welcomed by many desktop users. A commonly suggested solution is: [ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [ ] Global Menu only for maximized windows The default is usually suggested as either the first (on) or last (on only for maximized windows). + + - + Desired change: + + Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. + + The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance': + + --- + Menus + Location:Global/Local + Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed + --- + + More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) ** Tags added: udp -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
John: it is not clear from you updated description whether it will be possible to use global menus for maximized windows but not for unmaximized (at the same time)? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
The global menu complaint is coming to an end, it https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/931245 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
12.04 is near. The LIM Button can't be made until 12.04, but the global menu for maximized windows only can. These features are evolving, anyway. What if we have the global menu for maximized windows only in 12.04 and the LIM Button in 12.10? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Code removed in lp:compiz-core at revision 3077 ** Changed in: compiz-core Status: Fix Released = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Indeed. It was reverted back. Please change the state of this bug back to Confirmed/Wishlist. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Could someone tell me how was this fixed? Maybe because my max resolution is of 1280x1024, I cannot see any difference. Just asking out of curiosity. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
AFAIK, this bug was not fixed. Just read the changelog: - Finish the implementation of the locally integrated menubars [...] - revert the integrated menu patch. It won't be released in precise and triggers a regression (in bug #962085) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/compiz -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
This bug was fixed in the package compiz - 1:0.9.7.2-0ubuntu1 --- compiz (1:0.9.7.2-0ubuntu1) precise-proposed; urgency=low [ Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak ] * New upstream snapshot: - Fix global menu not being ergonomical on large screens (LP: #682788) - Fix Alt+Right arrow key (LP: #943612) - Fix key bindings for actions while doing tap detection (LP: #944631) - Window movement is erratic and buggy, backport (LP: #923683) - CompScreenImpl::addAction(CompAction*): Assertion `priv-initialized' failed (LP: #946118) - gtk-window-decorator crash with SIGSEGV in max_window_name_width() (LP: #937815) - Finish the implementation of the locally integrated menubars (LP: #931245) - Unity/compiz intercepts keystrokes from grabbed windows (LP: #806255) - Pressing alt doesn't show the menu title bar in top panel (LP: #943194) - Fix Alt stealing focus from widgets (LP: #943851) - Fix Alt + drag (LP: #945373) - lp:compiz-core fails parallel builds (make -jN) (LP: #938417) - Changing the HUD shortcut disables all Alt-based combinations. And changing the Dash shortcut disables all Super-based shortcuts (LP: #945816) - Fix key bindings (such as Super) not working on empty workspace or on slow/loaded systems (LP: #953089) - compiz crashed with signal 5 in Glib::exception_handlers_invoke() (LP: #808007) - Fix segfault caused by r3043 (LP: #958540) * Removed cherry-picked patches: - debian/patches/fix_806255.patch - debian/patches/fix_923683.patch - debian/patches/fix_943194.patch - debian/patches/fix_944631.patch - debian/patches/fix_alt_pressing.patch - debian/patches/additional_alt_tapping_fix.patch [ Didier Roche ] * pick upstream fix, debian/patches/fix_953839.patch: [regression] Invisible resize border is now only 1px wide (LP: #953839) * debian/patches/revert_lim.patch: - revert the integrated menu patch. It won't be released in precise and triggers a regression (in bug #962085) * debian/patches/fix_953089_2.patch: - second trial to fix remaining corner cases * debian/patches/exit_1_if_composite_cant_init.patch: - try to workaround a crasher which seems to happen when the composite plugin failed to initialize. Hopefully exiting 1 will make gnome-session respawning compiz and then the init will work. (LP: #833729) * debian/patches/always_replace.patch: - right now, always replace the current WM as it seems that some people got another compositor running at the start of the session. This will hopefully workaround the issue that some people experience. -- Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:13:51 +0100 ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I'm sorry for my bad behavior here. I won't send correction messages after sending a message any longer. I'll try to get the only message right. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I really liked #160 sollution, but I would change that icon to something more like the shelf icon on Mac or a menu-like icon similar to the one of LIM (without the triangle symbol inside). Also to give the idea of toggling, the bubble of the icon could look like pressed when activated (when the menu is visible) and look like as an unpressed button when disabled (not visible) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Changed in: compiz-core Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Changed in: unity Milestone: 5.8.0 = backlog ** Changed in: compiz-core Milestone: 0.9.7.2 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
We're 13 days away from Ubuntu April, 2012. Here, greeks and trojans argued a lot. Some want global menu for maximized windows only, others want app buttons instead of menu bars. I don't think the Ubuntu team be able to please greeks and trojans. What's decided by the end of this hot bug report? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
To me and all the others commenting here: I think they don't even read this any more. Did you for example notice those status changes between #159 and #160? They're simply following some design agenda and started tracking that agenda's progress in this launchpad entry at some point. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
my attachment shows a wide m, but the windicator shows a wider ellipse, so you can make the wide m wider maybe, make close, minimize and maximize wider too, so they match the wide m let's surpass windows in accessibility and apple in design ** Attachment added: a wide m.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/+attachment/2874495/+files/a%20wide%20m.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I still think that the optional use global menu only for maximized windows is still cleaner, easier and consistent. Nevertheless, i do not dislike LIM1. Not so sure because in the meantime I switched to Gnome Shell. Will try again Unity on Pangolin upgrade. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Wouldn't it be possible to have the appmenu 1) in the panel for maximized windows 2) in the window title bar for non-maximized windows So this would mean the menu would always be next to the close buttons (consistence), monitor space usage is reduced (for smaller laptops) and the menu stays with the associated window (consistence). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I loved the windicator icon size, because it's an arrow inside an ellipse and it's a wide icon, so I won't have to strive to target the mouse pointer to the icon. Combining lim1 and lim2, put the green icon's m inside the windicator icon's ellipse and use the green icon functionality in the ellipse with m. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
*and position ellipse with m by the right of maximize, by the left of the title -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Also affects: compiz (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
While LIM is a great advancement to solving this bug, but some people don't seem convinced yet. So from all the feedback from various discussions (here and on unity- design), I can only conclude that an alternative worth exploring could be something combined from these 2 proposals: http://musl1m.deviantart.com/art/Windicators-well-sort-of-203350326 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/682788/comments/106 Is still local and integrated, so it might be called LIM2. to be fair and not a biased decision, a poll would be nice to see which one users prefer: prototype LIM1 or prototype LIM2. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Changed in: unity Milestone: 5.6.0 = 5.8.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I agree that LIM is not a solution. As for me, I do not like the idea of LIM at all. Though, it may be an option, of course, for those who find it useful. But I do like global menu for maximized windows. And I would like to have a normal menu for non-maximized windows. So the initial suggestion for the three options (on - off - only maximized) seems to be the most comfortable and flexible solution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
As much as I like the look of some of the beautiful work on Unity, and how well it runs at times, and the potential it has, I don't think it should be up to the window manager to determine how the menus of applications look. In all sincerity I believe there are too many different options possible, to for now, make one general layout. Some programs have 3 rows of buttons and menu's (Bluefish for example). It can also prove difficult to keep up with interface design in the future. Afraid this may be painting yourself into a corner. A app button such as Firefox or Opera use, can possible be an option, but even then Firefox lets you choose how you want to dictate your button. In conclusion I like the Gnome 3 interface better in that regard. Also I find the whole shifting of the close, minimize buttons on the left side, underneath the application name confusing. I have given Unity a fair change, but when I have multiple apps open I find myself time and again getting lost and confused, as to what is where. I'm not sure if this is something that will grow on me, because I have to learn something new. In comparison I picked up the Gnome 3 interface up rather quickly, and it feels really intuitive. I'm really wondering if this is not a waste of time and resources, and things should be concentrated on other things, or at least move Unity to a more experimental screen saver, and concentrate efforts on integrating Gnome 3 properly. Worst case scenario one can always fork that if not completely satisfied. Let's avoid building YAWM (Yet another window manager), that although it has promise, some really cool stuf, and beautiful design, it is too soon implement as such. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Branch linked: lp:compiz-core -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Fix committed into lp:compiz-core at revision 3036 ** Changed in: compiz-core Milestone: None = 0.9.7.2 ** Changed in: compiz-core Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
fix commited is not the appropriate status when you have a feature request for one feature and implement a different one. I'd still like to see an option for having global menu for maximzed windows and a normal menu (not lim where i have to click an extra button to open the menu) for the non-maximized windows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I saw the solution screenshot. It's an icon that shows a non-persistent menu when clicked. If people complain that they're trying hard to target the mouse pointer, because the icon is too small, do as I say: These things are called app buttons. The Firefox app button is the label Firefox inside a button. Make the *app name*'s app button be the label *app name* inside a button. So we would have: close, minimize, maximize, title - app name (as a label inside a button). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
In Windows, the Firefox app button is on top left. Since titles vary in length and it's good to have the app button always in the same place, because it makes finding the app button easier, we would better have: close minimize maximize [app name] title. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
Jack: that is bug 783240 . I hope someone has a look at it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
I too would like: [ ] Global Menu on [ ] Global Menu off [x] Global Menu only for maximized windows -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
What about the hidden window controls for maximized windows? Shouldn't there be also an option to disable the hiding since you've got a lot of space on a large screen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: (unassigned) = John Lea (johnlea) ** Changed in: ayatana-design Importance: Undecided = Critical ** Changed in: ayatana-design Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/unity/lim ** Changed in: unity Status: Triaged = In Progress ** Changed in: unity Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) ** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/unity/lim-panel ** Also affects: compiz-core Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: compiz-core Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: compiz-core Assignee: (unassigned) = Sam Spilsbury (smspillaz) ** Changed in: unity Milestone: None = 5.6.0 ** Branch linked: lp:~smspillaz/compiz-core/compiz-core.lim ** Also affects: metacity (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) ** Branch linked: lp:~smspillaz/metacity/metacity.lim ** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu) Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
** Tags removed: needs-design -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 682788] Re: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens
See also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11685718 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Global menu is not ergonomical on large screens To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
