[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
it's not really a GNOME bug ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
** Tags added: ugjqc-11.09 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
The fact that we all use both GNOME and KDE Applications and we need to have setting for both of them. Maybe both can change the name to GNOME Settings and KDE Settings? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
@mpt, yes, I'm rather surprised at all the attention this got now, months after Gnome 3 shipped. gnome-control-center already has the OnlyShowIn:Gnome,Unity key set. I think KDE will use shaunm's solution in KDE 4.7.1 which is plenty early enough to make it into Ubuntu 11.10. However, because it's a string change, a freeze exception will need to be requested and approved first. The secondary issue is that this same problem affects gnome-system- monitor and ksysguard. Neither have an OnlyShowIn key set so those will need to be updated also. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
11.10 will ship with KDE 4.7.2, so no patching necessary. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
This bug report led to a lively discussion in desktop-devel-list@gnome and kde-core-devel@kde. Shaun McCance proposed a clever solution: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-July/msg00024.html The KDE System Settings maintainer agreed to adopt that solution after KDE 4.7: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-July/msg00040.html Would we need to patch it in advance of KDE 4.7 to solve it for Ubuntu 11.10? It would make sense to apply the equivalent change to gnome-control- center as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
Maybe rename KDE System Settings to Kontrol Center? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
Easy. KDE had this app (name) first. So what's the question? Gnome chooses a new name, done. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
The question is why you are proposing a different solution from the one already agreed by the upstream developers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
** Also affects: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 735166] Re: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity
Kubuntu maintains a very upstream friendly policy. Meaning if the systemsettings upstream maintainer is not cool with either of the changes proposed then they simply won't happen. At any rate, from what I understand this is an issue created by a renaming of the gnome-control-center, which makes this very much an issue of GNOME and not the KDE workspace. From a KDE POV nothing changed, except that another source distributor decided it would be a good idea to use a well established and long standing name for their product without taking into account the resulting problems for the eco system at large. So as an upstream developer I see no reason for action on the KDE side of things but rather on the GNOME side. FWIW the onlyshowin: kde option is fundamentally wrong because, as you already pointed out, it would remove all ability to configure KDE technology wide settings in a shell (you could run unity in an KDE software environment) that is not a KDE one. Now the reason this works for GNOME is because their entries are regular desktop files in the applications folder, thus listed in the menu. So even without gnome- control-center you could access the configuration apps for example via the Plasma start menu. KCMs on the other hand are in a KDE own folder and thus require systemsettings to be present. Renaming System Settings to have some sort of prefix because GNOME wants to claim this name is, I hope, obviously wrong on so incredibly many levels that I'd not even want to start think about discussing that upstream, downstream, or sidestream. Anyhow, this is not an issue limited to Kubuntu, so as per our bug triage policy [1] it needs to be tacked and addressed upstream. Also since the established importance is low there is no reason for tracking it here. [1] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidBugTriagePolicy -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/735166 Title: Duplicate System Settings System Monitor in Gnome/Unity To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/735166/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
