[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-03-07 Thread Nick Tait
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** Tags added: reviewedbydesignp

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-21 Thread Christian Giordano
@feasty, moving the launcher size in UA is a good idea. Unfortunately it
came up a bit too late, but it will definitely be taken into
consideration for 12.10. Thanks!

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-21 Thread Mark East
@nuthinking Ok. Out of interest, what ever happened to the launcher size
bar because my latest update appears to have removed it completely from
the options? Was this intentional?

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-21 Thread Christian Giordano
@feasty, if you are referring still to the launcher size, that option is
not available anymore where is not supported (ie. Unity 2D).

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-21 Thread Mark East
@nuthinking Ah ok, that's why then, I switched to Unity 2d. Also, the
designs show the menu integration option but I don't see that in the
Appearance options on my system and I know a few people were looking
forward to that. What happened to that one? (last question I promise)

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-21 Thread Christian Giordano
@feasty, John Lea is the best person to answer this. I think it should
land soon.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-09 Thread Mark East
Just had a look at the update and I have to say the System Settings
looks a lot better now that the icons have been redone to a larger size.
Impressive stuff! It reads much better with the name Appearance and
look.

I take it the decision not to move the launcher icon size into the
Universal Access section was on purpose?

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-control-center -
1:3.2.2-2ubuntu6

---
gnome-control-center (1:3.2.2-2ubuntu6) precise; urgency=low

  [ Aurélien Gâteau ]
  * debian/patches/58_ubuntu_icon_views_redesign.patch
- Implement the new category headers (LP: #921061)

  [ Didier Roche ]
  * debian/patches/04_new_appearance_settings.patch, respect new
design requests:
- High Contrast misspelled as HighContrast etc (LP: #878790)
- The scope of Restore defaults button in AppearanceBehavior is
  not clear enough (LP: #924253)
- Add a new launcher reveal slider (LP: #923749)
- The Background section in Appearance panel should have an option
  to display the dotted grid (LP: #922544)
- Restore Defaults buttons in appearance should be replaced with in
  context hints (LP: #922543)
- Rename tabs to look and User Interface to Background (LP: #918580)

  [ Christopher James Halse Rogers ]
  * debian/patches/59_install_gcm_components_on_demand.patch:
- Install gnome-color-manager tools on-demand.  Fixes the calibrate
  and View profile buttons without requiring us to install 33MB of
  Arygll on the CDs. (LP: #868803)
 -- Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com   Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:13:21 +0100

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/gnome-control-center

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-06 Thread Didier Roche
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Committed

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-06 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-02-03 Thread John Lea
** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Changed in: ayatana-design
 Assignee: (unassigned) = John Lea (johnlea)

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-30 Thread Mark East
I personally think that the Launcher icon size should stay in the first
tab (if it's staying in the Appearence settings and not moving to
Universal Access) as it doesn't actually change any behavioral aspects
of the launcher.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-30 Thread Christian Giordano
@sabdfl, the latest spec defining the changes on System Settings are  here: 
https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1ILTJDiDCd25Npt2AmgzF8aOnZZECxTfM0hvsbWT2BxA/edit?hl=en_US
(no fix for this bug available yet)

I agree with feasty that Launcher size is not behavior and I see why it
could join font size in Universal Access.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-30 Thread Christian Giordano
To direct people which would like to have text or tiles a bit bigger to
the Universal Access panel, we could add to the first panel a link:
http://ubuntuone.com/5Y86M90lZ943dKrdifIPw0

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-30 Thread Mark East
That's a good idea. Would it also be a good idea to inclue the Universal
Access symbol next to the button somewhere to help people identify it? I
was just thinking that it might be good to keep all links to areas
consistent with their symbols. What do you think? I don't know if that
would look ok on a panel like that.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-30 Thread Christian Giordano
** Description changed:

  I updated my 12.04 installation and noticed that in the System Settings
  section that Appearance has changed its name to User Interface. That
  name is a term that beginner users will not be familiar with and will
  most likely avoid clicking. Appearance is a much better name and has
  more meaning for the end user. These sorts of terms need to be avoided
  if Ubuntu wants to target less techy users and portray itself as a user
  friendly environment.
+ 
+ Solution: Keep Appearance as main entry, as it was in 11.10, and call
+ the two tabs: Look and Behavior

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = New

** Description changed:

  I updated my 12.04 installation and noticed that in the System Settings
  section that Appearance has changed its name to User Interface. That
  name is a term that beginner users will not be familiar with and will
  most likely avoid clicking. Appearance is a much better name and has
  more meaning for the end user. These sorts of terms need to be avoided
  if Ubuntu wants to target less techy users and portray itself as a user
  friendly environment.
  
- Solution: Keep Appearance as main entry, as it was in 11.10, and call
- the two tabs: Look and Behavior
+ 
+ Solution
+ 
+ Keep Appearance as main entry, as it was in 11.10, and call the two
+ tabs: Look and Behavior

** Description changed:

  I updated my 12.04 installation and noticed that in the System Settings
  section that Appearance has changed its name to User Interface. That
  name is a term that beginner users will not be familiar with and will
  most likely avoid clicking. Appearance is a much better name and has
  more meaning for the end user. These sorts of terms need to be avoided
  if Ubuntu wants to target less techy users and portray itself as a user
  friendly environment.
  
- 
  Solution
  
- Keep Appearance as main entry, as it was in 11.10, and call the two
+ Keep Appearance as main entry, as it was in 11.10, and call the two
  tabs: Look and Behavior

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Re: [Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-29 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Would launcher icon size not fit better on the Behaviour tab?

Could we see a mockup of the planned full set of exposed settings,
please?

Mark

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-29 Thread feasty
Should Launcher icon size not be in the Universal Access are of the
Setting section in the seeing tab? If not exclusively then maybe as well
as?

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Re: [Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Appearance is fine by me.

For the tabs, perhaps Style and Behaviour?

Mark

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-27 Thread Christian Giordano
** Description changed:

  I updated my 12.04 installation and noticed that in the System Settings
  section that Appearance has changed its name to User Interface. That
  name is a term that beginner users will not be familiar with and will
  most likely avoid clicking. Appearance is a much better name and has
  more meaning for the end user. These sorts of terms need to be avoided
  if Ubuntu wants to target less techy users and portray itself as a user
  friendly environment.
+ 
+ Solution: rename User Interface to Desktop

** Changed in: ayatana-design
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** Changed in: ayatana-design
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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-27 Thread Christian Giordano
@Feasty we are going to stick with Appearance for the main entry. We
need to find a better name for the first tab. Any suggestions besides
Style and Look?

** Description changed:

  I updated my 12.04 installation and noticed that in the System Settings
  section that Appearance has changed its name to User Interface. That
  name is a term that beginner users will not be familiar with and will
  most likely avoid clicking. Appearance is a much better name and has
  more meaning for the end user. These sorts of terms need to be avoided
  if Ubuntu wants to target less techy users and portray itself as a user
  friendly environment.
- 
- Solution: rename User Interface to Desktop

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Status: Confirmed = In Progress

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-27 Thread feasty
Rename it to Desktop??? Everyone is happy with Appearance and that would
keep it consistent with previous releases.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-27 Thread feasty
I think either style or look is a good name for the first tab. I'm more
in favour of look because I think that best encompasses the background,
theme and launcher icon size options.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
This really should be Appearance. It's a sensible name with the theme
selection added, from the upstream Background. I can only imagine it was
changed to User Interface with the idea that the Unity configuration
pieces would be added to it (and which are now). I think these probably
don't belong in this configuration panel, and will be opening a separate
bug for that.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-26 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Since System Settings sorts panels alphabetically, using the Appearance
name from 11.10 will put the panel in the first position in English
which is convenient since changing the wallpapers is considering to be a
very common customization task.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
Jeremy, true. And that's where everyone looks for it, since that's where
it used to be. I was definitely confused for a second when I went to
change the background (because there was a problem with it loading), and
saw no Appearance settings in the top left of the control center.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-26 Thread feasty
It's also the fact that 'User Interface' is meaningless to most people
non technical. I'm not so concerned about the positioning of it as
people can find it if it has a sensible name (although you're right, the
beginning is better) but with a name like User Interface they're likely
to avoid it. It's a poor choice of name and had no justification for it
in the design.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
setting the Ubuntu side to incomplete waiting on design input

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-19 Thread Robert Roth
** Package changed: ubuntu = gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug report, the name was suggested by designers, see
https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1ILTJDiDCd25Npt2AmgzF8aOnZZECxTfM0hvsbWT2BxA/edit?hl=en_GB

section 2.2: This panel should be renamed to “User Interface”.

Opening an ayatana-design component so they can review your comment, the
idea seems to be that the dialog will add options out of the appaerance
configuration

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Low = Wishlist

** Also affects: ayatana-design
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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  System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-19 Thread feasty
I see the comment but there doesn't appear to be any reason for it! I
think they're just not thinking of the non technical user. If my
girlfriend, her parents or my dad (all Ubuntu users but far from
technical) saw the term User Interface they wouldn't know what it was
and they certainly wouldn't click on it because it has the term
'Interface' in, which sounds technical and low level. They are quite
happy to click on a button that is labelled Appearence though as it
has more meaning to them. It's this sort of terminology that just puts
people off Linux and keeps its reputation as a techies playground. The
designrs should remember that people who aren't technical, especially
those who are older, are afraid that what ever they do on a computer is
going to break it and unfriendly names like that is just going to
intimidate more.

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[Bug 918580] Re: System Settings 'User Interface' name is bad in 12.04

2012-01-19 Thread feasty
Thanks for doing that though :)

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