Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/7/28 Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most people is not quite the same. This is just that nobody I know is doing time tracking, so I consider it a niche

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:49 +1200, John Stowers wrote: So with what sites can I easily sync my data (from what desktop applications)? The following is a partial list of non-pim sync functionality I just tried Conduit (version 0.3.6 in Ubuntu Hardy) and I don't think it's at all easy. I

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:44 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:49 +1200, John Stowers wrote: So with what sites can I easily sync my data (from what desktop applications)? The following is a partial list of non-pim sync functionality I just tried Conduit (version

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 22:56 +1200 schrieb John Stowers: On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:44 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I failed to figure out how to upload (or sync) photos from a local folder to flickr. I did manage to drag rectangles for flickr and a folder to the canvas. Did you read

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread Willie Walker
From Li Yuan regarding a11y: Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the left tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has to drag some items to the right sync area, there is no way to do this by keyboard. And the sync area is not accessible. I

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 13:24 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 22:56 +1200 schrieb John Stowers: On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:44 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I failed to figure out how to upload (or sync) photos from a local folder to flickr. I did manage to drag

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:37 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: From Li Yuan regarding a11y: Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the left tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has to drag some items to the right sync area, there is no way to do

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/7/30 Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 12:55 +0300 schrieb Kalle Vahlman: 2008/7/28 Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave Neary wrote: In general, I'd hate for this app is mostly useless to be a heavily Well, I don't think it is useful for most

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread Willie Walker
Hi John: Thank you for your interest in accessibility -- it's a huge milestone when mainstream developers ask how can *I* do this versus stating give me a patch and I'll see if we like it. Awesome stuff, and accessible design/development is a skill I hope more and more people add to their

module discussions date (was: Re: Proposed module: conduit)

2008-07-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi John, Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 23:50 +1200 schrieb John Stowers: * Aside: I think the module discussions should be *much* earlier. To actually give application authors time to address concerns raised. You've received feedback when proposing the module for the first time (31 Mar), I

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Want to jump in and acknowledge John's great attitude on defending his application. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to have, if not already a good community around Conduit. Attitude counts. I just want to echo this sentiment. Would that all people

Swfdec version for 2.24

2008-07-30 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hey, As Swfdec tracks GNOME development and provides a new major release for every new GNOME release, we will release Swfdec 0.8 to go with it. I hope updating the external dependencies is fine here. Today Swfdec 0.7.4 was released and I updated the swfdec-gnome package to not depend on Swfdec

Re: Swfdec version for 2.24

2008-07-30 Thread Frederic Peters
Benjamin Otte wrote: As Swfdec tracks GNOME development and provides a new major release for every new GNOME release, we will release Swfdec 0.8 to go with it. I hope updating the external dependencies is fine here. Today Swfdec 0.7.4 was released and I updated the swfdec-gnome package to

Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: I recently had a nice discussion with the release team about the viability of enabling accessibility (i.e., the AT-SPI infrastructure) by default for GNOME. As a result of that discussion, I'm approaching the broader GNOME community with a proposal to do this. :-) Accessibility

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Alexander Jones
Isn't this a distro decision? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Willie Walker
Alexander Jones wrote: Isn't this a distro decision? Ultimately, I guess the value for any gconf setting in schemas/desktop_gnome_interface.schemas can be whatever a distro wants it to be. What I'm proposing, however, is that the default value that we choose for GNOME is that accessibility

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 13:11 -0400 schrieb Willie Walker: Alexander Jones wrote: Isn't this a distro decision? Ultimately, I guess the value for any gconf setting in schemas/desktop_gnome_interface.schemas can be whatever a distro wants it to be. What I'm proposing, however, is

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:00 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: Hi All: I recently had a nice discussion with the release team about the viability of enabling accessibility (i.e., the AT-SPI infrastructure) by default for GNOME. As a result of that discussion, I'm approaching the broader

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Willie Walker
The way accessibility support works is that GTK+ loads accessibility modules (gail and atk-bridge) if it detects that accessibility support is enabled. If accessibility support is not enabled when an application starts, I don't believe there is a way to indicate to a running GTK+ application

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On 7/30/08, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:00 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: Hi All: I recently had a nice discussion with the release team about the viability of enabling accessibility (i.e., the AT-SPI infrastructure) by default for GNOME. As a

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Rob Taylor
Hmm, my take here is that the current AT-SPI is possibly a little too heavy to enable by default. I'd suggest we look at enabling a11y by default when the new AT-SPI DBus is ready (2.26 at current estimations) I've cc'd Mark Doffman for his imput as he's probably got the most experience

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Damien Grassart
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not arguing that time tracking is *not* suited for desktop, I'm just saying it probably would be a *better* match in the office suite (which, as you point out, is a bit loose definition currently). I'd say it would be

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Dylan McCall
Hi All: I recently had a nice discussion with the release team about the viability of enabling accessibility (i.e., the AT-SPI infrastructure) by default for GNOME. As a result of that discussion, I'm approaching the broader GNOME community with a proposal to do this. :-)

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3 (or is it GPLv3 or later?) Short description:

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:34 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l:

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On 7/30/08, John Stowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when I tried hamster applet, there was no such information to be seen. I would have expected to see incomplete tasks as possible activities. Works here with 2.23.4 in Intrepid, I have no evo python... greetings.

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:13 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: On 7/30/08, John Stowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when I tried hamster applet, there was no such information to be seen. I would have expected to see incomplete tasks as possible activities. Works here with

Re: Proposed external dependency: WebKit/GTK+

2008-07-30 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:33 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://webkit.org/ http://live.gnome.org/WebKitGtk Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00134.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: ==

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Tao, Miao
I think what we did here is for a better user experiences to accessibility users, just like what Will said, it's far easier for someone without a disability to turn it off than it is for a person with a disability to turn it on. And I also have an idea about this, I saw accessible installation

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-30 Thread Gerd Kohlberger
Dylan McCall wrote: Mousetweaks requires Assistive Technologies. I used this as the first example in a little post I made regarding courteous software. Let's pretend for a moment I am a disabled person who has trouble with mouse buttons. I am trying to turn on a critical accessibility feature,