Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Dan Winship wrote: > By that logic, you should never pass any extra -W options beyond -Wall > either, since those warnings apparently aren't important. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_implication_%28rule_of_inference%29 is not invertible like that. :p > Do

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 Colin Walters verbum.org> writes: > First, compiler warnings range widely in how important they are. Some > of them, like -Wmissing-prototypes, are pretty much always indicative of > a serious problem in your code.

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-12 Thread Benjamin Otte
Marguerite Su marguerite.su> writes: > what if after one or two years, a brand-new IM comes. > > then you guys will remove all ibus codes and start what you do today again? > > and after another one or two years, again again. > > then it becomes you guys' life-time career to fix bugs and reinv

Re: Rotting patches [was: Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins]

2012-05-04 Thread Benjamin Otte
Andre Klapper gmx.net> writes: > Offtopic, but the obvious first step would be to improve the rate of > reviewed patches in general. > > While peer reviews are great, **in some projects** teams miss manpower > already to have reviews at all, without any peer. > (And if you are a first-time contr

Re: Feature Proposal: Accessibility on by default

2012-04-24 Thread Benjamin Otte
Colin Walters verbum.org> writes: > I'm not talking about the implementation details of the toggling > of the switch, but rather the fallout on the rest of the stack. > So, here's a simple technical overview of how the a11y stack works for a GTK app (Clutter is similar). Imagine this as layers.

Re: Gtk+ 3.3.7+ bugfix will BREAK Xorg (before 1.12) unless patch is applied

2012-03-07 Thread Benjamin Otte
Here's a heads-up on this patch: We've held up on applying this patch to give developers a chance to get their servers fixed. But we want this patch in 3.4, so it has now landed. So if you are running a GTK >= 3.3.19, you need to have an up to date X server or you'll see weird focus behavior. A wo

Re: Gnome 3 themes, user overrides?

2012-01-31 Thread Benjamin Otte
I have no idea how all this stuff works, I just know it's kinda suboptimal and underdefined[1]. But what I've been doing for modifying my own theme: mkdir -p ~/.themes/MyTheme/gtk-3.0 cat > ~/.themes/MyTheme/gtk-3.0/gtk.css << EOF @import url("/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-3.0/gtk.css"); /* My ch

Re: GtkTable is deprecated

2011-09-29 Thread Benjamin Otte
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > This is a massive change to existing GtkBuilder .ui files so I would > suggest that somebody able to do xml and/or sed/grep magic would write a > script that just replaces GtkTable with GtkGrid in existing .ui files. If > that is included i

GtkTable is deprecated

2011-09-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hey everyone, So now with GNOME 3.2 out, it's time to make GTK break builds again. So I deprecated GtkTable in GTK master[1]. GtkTable is turned more and more problematic as GTK 3 evolves and the implementations of height-for-width improved, which GtkTable does not support. So we were ending up wi

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v4)

2011-08-19 Thread Benjamin Otte
Felipe Contreras gmail.com> writes: > > That doesn't change the fact that everyone understands the word "happy". > http://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list

More GTK breakage

2010-12-02 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hey everyone, If you read this mail, it's probably because GTK made your compile fail. Again. It might be because the final part of the GTK3 rendering cleanup has landed. This part only touches GDK APIs, so most applications should not be affected at all. If your app has been affected nonetheles

Re: Please ship changelogs in your tarballs

2010-10-05 Thread Benjamin Otte
Dodji Seketeli seketeli.org> writes: > I personaly find > ChangeLogs quite valuable for situations where people have the source > packages (like a distribution DVD) but not necessarily an access to the > internet and want to understand when/how something changed. I found > myself in such a situati

GTK3 breakage

2010-09-26 Thread Benjamin Otte
Do you pine for the nice days of GTK 1.3, when men were men and wrote their own widgets? Are you without a nice project and just dying to cut your teeth on a desktop you can try to modify for your needs? Are you finding it frustrating when everything works on GNOME 2? No more all-nighters to get a

Re: rendering-cleanup

2010-08-07 Thread Benjamin Otte
In the meantime you want to read http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/2010/07/27/rendering-cleanup/ That page will become the basis of what will be the porting documentation. Benjamin On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Benjamin Otte wrote: > Hi, > > As many of you have already noticed, I've

Re: External dependency bump: Cairo 1.10

2010-06-29 Thread Benjamin Otte
m about to update modulesets and the wiki page. Benjamin On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Benjamin Otte wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to bump the Cairo dependency for 1.10 for Gtk 3. Cairo 1.10 >> adds a few fea

External dependency bump: Cairo 1.10

2010-06-17 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hi, I'd like to bump the Cairo dependency for 1.10 for Gtk 3. Cairo 1.10 adds a few features that I want to use in the public GDK API - most notably regions - and this change needs to be done while we can break API. Cairo 1.10 is not released yet, but is scheduled for release on August 16th. [1]

Video Hackfest conclusions

2009-11-24 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hi, As you may be aware, we held a video hackfest last week in Barcelona. Developers met to discuss how best to improve GPU support for video applications. See http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/wiki/VideoHackfest for more details. In particular, you might be interested in the notes some people took

Re: libproxy as external dependency

2008-10-23 Thread Benjamin Otte
pros: - current proxy handling in GNOME is a huge mess, we're all lucky we can live without proxies - the API looks extremely sane - there is nothing else that does proxying - Dan (who is going to be the main - or only? - user of it) likes it - active maintainers - no bugs cons: - I'm (luckily) no

Swfdec external dependency

2008-09-08 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hey, now that we've released Swfdec 0.8.0[1] I updated swfdec-gnome to use it[2] and did a new release of it. I've updated the wiki page[3] already. Due to lack of time I did not update jhbuild etc though. Cheers, Benjamin 1: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/swfdec/2008-September/001944.htm

Swfdec version for 2.24

2008-07-30 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hey, As Swfdec tracks GNOME development and provides a new major release for every new GNOME release, we will release Swfdec 0.8 to go with it. I hope updating the external dependencies is fine here. Today Swfdec 0.7.4 was released and I updated the swfdec-gnome package to not depend on Swfdec 0.6

Re: minimum cairo dependency

2008-06-07 Thread Benjamin Otte
Matthias Clasen gmail.com> writes: > > It was pointed out to me that > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree/ExternalDependencies still > lists cairo 1.2.6 as minimum version. > I recently bumped the cairo dependency in GTK+ 2.13 to 1.6 (it already > was at 1.5.2 before). > I think we should

Re: Reintroducing critical warnings?

2008-02-25 Thread Benjamin Otte
Havoc Pennington pobox.com> writes: > Wait, that's the whole point is to crash the app > > The issue is that if it just prints stuff, people don't fix the bug > (in part, perhaps, because nothing goes through bug-buddy). Maybe the > fix is to bug-buddy the warning, but don't crash the app. Not

Re: Swfdec: required external packages

2008-01-29 Thread Benjamin Otte
On Jan 29, 2008 6:16 PM, Luca Ferretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Il giorno mar, 29/01/2008 alle 01.10 +0100, Benjamin Otte ha scritto: > > > Additionally, we want to track Swfdec git master from swfdec-gnome > > until 0.6 is released. Is that ok - in particular

Swfdec: required external packages

2008-01-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
I've just parsed the external dependencies for 2.22 [1] and noticed some issues relating to swfdec-gnome. 1) Swfdec version The Swfdec version has been set to 0.5.5. However, we plan to do a 0.6.0 release for Gnome 2.22 (see [2] for details). Additionally, we want to track Swfdec git master from s

Re: New module decisions for 2.22

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Otte
Brian Cameron Sun.COM> writes: > Section 3a seems of the "Adobe SWF and FLV File Format Specification > License Agreement" seems to be pretty clear that the specification > does not allow additional client programs, players, etc. to use > the format. Even if this has been implemented by reverse-

Re: Proposal: swfdec-gnome

2007-12-28 Thread Benjamin Otte
On Dec 27, 2007 8:34 PM, Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so i assume that using the gstreamer backend has been fixed in the > latest swfdec release? > Yes. Swfdec is using GStreamer by default for video and audio decoding now (and has been for the last 2 releases). Cheers, Benjamin

Re: Proposal: swfdec-gnome

2007-10-26 Thread Benjamin Otte
Bastien Nocera hadess.net> writes: > Hey Benjamin. > > I think that using GStreamer for playback would be a must for swfdec to > be accepted as a blessed dependency (and thus swfdec-gnome added to the > desktop). We've been through not allowing other playback engines in the > past, so I don't th

Re: Proposal: swfdec-gnome

2007-10-23 Thread Benjamin Otte
Peter Gordon thecodergeek.com> writes: > Unfortunately, swfdec's dependency on ffmpeg/libmad for multimedia > decoding means that it cannot intrinsically be part of some distributions > such as Fedora without being hosted in a third-party repository of some > sort; and the current Gstreamer stack

Proposal: swfdec-gnome

2007-10-22 Thread Benjamin Otte
Hi, I'd like to propose swfdec-gnome for inclusion into the GNOME 2.22 desktop. Swfdec-gnome is a recent addition to the Swfdec project [1]. Its purpose is integration of Flash files into the Gnome desktop. It currently provides a thumbnailer and a playback application for local files similar to t