Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-01-31 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:08 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: Profiling the capplet won't help at all. It's not actually doing any of the drawing on the desktop. Someone needs to profile nautilus and/or the gnome-settings-daemon processes. These are the places where the drawing happens. Albeit much

[Fwd: Document font pref [was: Re: asking for approval for bug 160454]]

2006-01-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Does anyone know if we use the Document Font gconf key anywhere other than Epiphany? Federico ---BeginMessage--- HI, Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 11:50 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit : On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 18:48 +0100, Christian Persch wrote: the patch [http://bugzilla.gnome.org

Re: New schemas aren't picked up by running gconfd-2 [was Re: rawhide report: 20060125 changes]

2006-01-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 14:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Watching them with fam/gamin should be possible to achieve with the merged tree backend. Sadly, gnome-VFS is out of question because it depends on GConf itself. Rumor says that gamin isn't maintained anymore. Let's just move to

Re: Glib 2.10 / Pango 1.? for GNOME 2.14?

2006-01-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 09:13 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: I think a better way to rephrase Federico's question is: should the floating stuff be rolled back? I think that was discussed and closed already. So we have a glib release that we want to not use?! The question is really about

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 12:44 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: So, here's my proposal: Ship with 0.10. Have everything default to it. Also include 0.8 in the ftp directory, but not used. Include a big old section in the release notes explaining the situation and letting people know that they can

Glib 2.10 / Pango 1.? for GNOME 2.14?

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Sorry that I dropped the ball on this, and haven't followed all the discussion. Other than Pango optimizations and and GSlice in Glib, is there a compelling reason to use the new Glib/Pango in GNOME 2.14? - Was the ABI issue resolved with respect to GObject floating references? Changing the

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 16:14 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: JWZ is an ass, and has been for a long time. If forced to take the admittedly unpleasant choice between overwhelming maintainers so that they never look at bugzilla at all, or incorrectly closing bugs which might be reopened later, we

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 00:22 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Is GNOME 2.10 maintained? The way things are, that's almost equivalent to asking whether any distributions with long-running support commitments ever shipped GNOME 2.10. We already discussed this once:

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 14:06 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: His tantrum was on our extremely irresponsible transition from 1.x to 2.0, where no one bothered to see if there were regressions, we didn't provide a migration path for user's settings, we didn't write migration documents for all the

Re: nautilus-share status

2006-01-16 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 17:27 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: I seem to have missed any earlier emails about this (at least, I have none in the year since I've switched to gmail, unless google is lying to me.) What is it? Fuck. Wrong mailing list :) Anyway, this is code to make nautilus-share use

Re: getting panel stack traces [was Re: [BLOCKER] [CRASH] latest libbonobo commit crash a lot of applets]

2006-01-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 07:57 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: Googling for 'stack trace panel applet' throws up the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces#head-6f388e997f046b1f5170576bdb852d4f1b2c93a6 Why does bug-buddy not work for applets? Federico

Re: getting panel stack traces [was Re: [BLOCKER] [CRASH] latest libbonobo commit crash a lot of applets]

2006-01-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 21:19 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote: Well, my issue was a non-crash, but a load failure related to bonobo-activation. Using the method describe on wiki I was able to load failing applets. Hmm. What was the actual problem? Does the panel or bonobo-activation need more

Re: getting panel stack traces [was Re: [BLOCKER] [CRASH] latest libbonobo commit crash a lot of applets]

2006-01-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 16:30 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: On 1/13/06, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. What was the actual problem? Does the panel or bonobo-activation need more robust code to detect/fix that kind of condition? Luca claimed that it was fixed already

Re: Dtrace and glib

2006-01-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 01:06 -0700, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: I have gnusolaris (nexenta os) installed and was running dtrace on evolution to find memory leaks. When I was running valgrind on evolution, couple of months back, I had a custom built gnome environment with a disabled mem pool

Gnome-session 2.12.0 STILL in 2.13.4 release

2006-01-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, It looks like there have been no released tarballs of gnome-session for the 2.13 series. As a result, we are still using gnome-session-2.12.0, which does NOT have the crash-on-critical-warnings code. Who can make a gnome-session tarball for us? Federico

Re: Debian and the GFDL problem

2006-01-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 19:41 +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: As many might be aware, the Debian project has been concerned about the non-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation Licence for a few years already, and although conversations with the Free Software Foundation have been ongoing for at

Re: Dependency question for gnome dictionary

2005-12-15 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 23:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: This library tries to address feature requests for the Dictionary, and fixes the leaks and unmaintainable code that plagued the old Dictionary code base. I'd like to propose it for inclusion in the 2.14 release: I can guarantee

Re: libgtop has been branched

2005-12-09 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 17:23 +0100, Benoît Dejean wrote: * include/glibtop/cpu.h: * include/glibtop/procmap.h: Increased GLIBTOP_NCPU to 32. Added real_ncpu to struct glibtop. Added smaps members to glibtop_map_entry. If you have any suggestion ... Make that

Reminder: fix critical warnings before Jan. 1st

2005-12-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, This is a reminder to fix all critical warnings before January 1st. On that day, users of gnome-session HEAD will get G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals turned on automatically. Let's find those bugs and kill them! Federico ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: API documentation requirements for next releases

2005-12-02 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 10:33 -0500, JP Rosevear wrote: Is there a deadline for when this has to be done by? Getting to the hard freeze and then realizing, oops not done, but people now depend on the API would be a bad thing. Yes, the deadline is one week after API freeze. For this release

API documentation requirements for next releases

2005-11-30 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
any newly deprecated interfaces as such. 3. Any new module proposed for the platform must be fully documented. [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-November/msg00216.html [2] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirteen/Platform -- Federico Mena Quintero

Re: [g-a-devel] Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-29 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 08:16 +, Padraig O'Briain wrote: Our accessibility QA guys have tested these changes and find that they do not impact the accessibility of gnome-terminal. My reading of the vte code was that these signals were being emitted too often. The signal will now be emitted

Re: High Contrast Icons

2005-11-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 22:40 +, Thomas Wood wrote: If an application calls itself accessible, having high contrast icons should be one of the requirements. Applications are allowed to install icons into the hicolor theme; if we're really taking accessibility seriously, then high

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-21 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 16:34 +, John Rice wrote: Doing 'cat' of a big file in gnome-terminal was the only area where a significant difference was seen. Approx 45 secs with A11Y ON, and 42.4 secs with A11Y Off. All other areas looked at above were not significantly different comparing

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:20 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: So here's a (possibly crazy) suggestion: during development releases, enable a11y by default, and during stable releases, disable it by default. That way people running jhbuild, GARNOME etc would be running all of the a11y code, and any

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:00 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: FWIW, it effectively disables the reduced resources mode in metacity (except that the minimization animation remains off) which would result in part of Metacity being untested. So what you want is a tool to test code coverage, and an

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 20:23 +0100, Claudio Saavedra wrote: Considering that there are pros and cons, why force all developers, contributors and testers to take part in this? If you want a stable development platform, use the stable series, not CVS HEAD. When things start breaking in the basic

IMPORTANT: fix critical warnings before January 1st

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Dear hackers of GNOME, Vincent announced this the other day: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-November/msg6.html And there was a discussion of how to implement this plan. Glib now supports setting an environment variable, G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals. Doing this will

Re: Adding icons to the desktop, without placing them in ~/Desktop.

2005-11-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 16:10 +0100, Erik Forsberg wrote: I'd like to add icons to the desktop of users, without copying .desktop-files to ~/Desktop of the user. I need to do it while running as the user, and the icons can be different for every user, so system-wide directories are not an

Re: Making GNOME crash

2005-11-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 17:39 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: The next releases of glib (HEAD and glib-2-8) will support a new debug flag for the G_DEBUG environment variable: fatal_criticals. This make the program crash on critical warnings. I'm all for this. One thing we discussed on IRC is to

Re: Proposal for inclusion in Desktop: pessulus

2005-10-28 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 16:04 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Pessulus is a lockdown editor for GNOME, written in python. Code is available in GNOME CVS, and there are already some translations (many thanks to the translators). There's no documentation yet, though. Let's get this in. People love

Re: Keyboard usage on some Gnome windows not working

2005-10-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 01:52 -0700, Alex Graveley wrote: Speaking of Emacs, one of my favorite features has always been when executing an M-x command that the minibar flashes the shortcut sequence you _could_ have used for the same task. I find that I learn the commands I use most often[1]

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 17:32 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: Using a smaller CPP and delaying xrdb's execution until everything else is started is the right solution here. You need to run xrdb before gnome-session (re)starts any Motif apps, for example. Federico

cdda:// URIs and the default handler

2005-09-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I'm debugging this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315877 The way to duplicate the bug is to insert an audio CD, and double-click the CD icon that appears on the desktop. You'll get an unfriendly dialog from Nautilus. We don't compile the cdda module in gnome-vfs by default.

Re: cdda:// URIs and the default handler

2005-09-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 23:00 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: I see no point in using a shell script as cdda handler. We have IMHO two options: a) teach totem cdda:/// URIs, no matter whether a GnomeVFS module is installed for this. I guess the basic problem is having redundant keys: 1.

Re: invalid arguments to public API: g_assert, g_return_if_fail or continue with undefined behavior

2005-09-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 12:48 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: I'd really like to have a GNOME-wide policy for dealing with public API and invalid arguments. The GNOME Programming Guidelines are pretty clear on this: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/robust.html See

Re: Removing xrdb for 10% startup win?

2005-08-31 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 22:30 -0500, William Lovaton wrote: Not exactly I guess, I think Lorenzo means something more like grope. I wonder why a function reordering thingy like this is still missing on Linux. [] http://lwn.net/1998/1029/als/rope.html There's work in progress to do function

Re: change an environment variable in a running gnome session

2005-07-29 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 12:18 -0300, Fabio Rafael da Rosa wrote: I dont know if this is possible, but I wan't to change an environment variable in a gnome session, so the change became visible to gnome without having to restart the gnome session. Is this possible? Short answer: You can't.

Re: Detecting GNOME

2005-07-25 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 21:22 +0200, Tomasz Melcer wrote: Is there a simple way to check if GNOME manages an X display? This is something that people have requested when looking at the GNOME ISV guide. Maybe we should have gnome-session set a property on the root window, pointing to an

Old versions of GNOME [was: Re: gtk 2.8 for gnome 2.12]

2005-07-21 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:18 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: [1] worth noting that if Novell is concerned about the stability of HEAD, or the violation of promises about quality, Novell is more than welcome to participate in the QA team. It would be even more exciting if (like Ubuntu, or Red Hat)

Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser

2005-07-14 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I just implemented overwrite confirmation for the file chooser. You have to enable this feature explicitly, to keep compatibility with applications that already pop up their custom confirmation dialogs. Please read this blog entry for the details:

Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, One of the marketing efforts that the Foundation Board discussed during GUADEC is the possibility of having certification levels for GNOME applications. Apps that get rated higher are nicer or more GNOME-like; hopefully we can use the rating metrics to let users gauge how well a particular

Re: i18n and GNOME hackers

2005-06-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 17:52 +0200, Danilo egan wrote: I support this initiative by Frederic, and let me add that apart from misreferenced gettext domain names, it's not uncommon for programmers to miss appropriate calls to set up translation when they switch to GtkUIManager (from

Re: gnome-desktop vs. libgnomeui

2005-05-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 21:56 +0200, Chipzz wrote: It happens when you visit smb:// from a GtkFileChooser, or when you go to a folder that has .desktop files in it. The file chooser should handle .desktop files as if they were symlinks, but it doesn't. And what if that is exactly what you

gnome-desktop vs. libgnomeui

2005-05-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I was looking at this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136271 It happens when you visit smb:// from a GtkFileChooser, or when you go to a folder that has .desktop files in it. The file chooser should handle .desktop files as if they were symlinks, but it doesn't. The

Re: gobject patch to track memory use

2005-02-24 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:23 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: I spent some day today hacking up a patch to gobject that lets you track what types of GObjects are using memory. It keeps a list of all live objects, and when you send the process a SIGUSR2 it prints a memory profile. For the size

Re: I am Lord of the Theme (aka the buck stops here)

2005-02-17 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 22:59 -0500, Seth Nickell wrote: The Wiki page is now updated http://live.gnome.org/NewDefaultTheme . As much as possible please try to direct discussions on themes into the bins found there rather than feeding another mega-thread. I added a sanity checklist for themes

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