Both Novell (as Nat and Jimmac have stated before) and Red Hat (at
this point, people weren't in the beginning, but its now Fedora, not
RH) are happy with the use of Industrial or Bluecurve, respectively
(though bluecurve *might* have to be called something different as
bluecurve is TMed AFAIK).
I was working under the impression having less major colours is a good
thing. From memory, the icons are done using the HIG palette with some
intermediate colours for gradients and such.
Designers I have met will tell you when doing a design, pick a small
number of colours and stick with
The combination of the little-known themes I'm using currently:
Gtk2 - Perseid, from http://jp.bizet.free.fr/themes/gtk2.html (for some
reason, this theme isn't on gnome-look nor at art.gnome.org, as far as I
could tell).
Metacity: RMilk (available from gnome-look).
My point: I think that some
Nuvola is today in gnome-themes-extras. I am going to move it into
gnome-themes if the maintainers of that package approve the move and
make a new final release of g-t-e without Nuvola.
This means that while it will not be the default theme for GNOME it
will be part of a default installation.
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 11:48 -0400, Steven Garrity wrote:
Site note: where's the best place to post feedback/suggestions for
ClearLooks? I didn't want to start a theme-nitpick sub-thread here.
Probably either here:
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19527 or by mailing
the author
Indeed, some of the better pixmap themes are designed by Jip.
gonxical, for example, is a high quality professional theme. Arguably
the best gnome theme I've come across.
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:54:51 +0100, Miroslav Silovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The combination of the little-known themes I'm
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 00:32 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Seth Nickell
In the bluecurve department, ClearLook
(http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19527), which I just found
through this thread, looks like a hands-down improvement.
Then I guess I am pretty alone when I
Hey all,
What do you want in a new default theme? I'm looking for everything
from big-picture to details. I don't want information like the
$insert_widget should look like $insert_existing_theme I want
information like the $insert_widget should look like
$insert_description which can be
quote who=Aidan Delaney
What do you want in a new default theme? I'm looking for everything
from big-picture to details. I don't want information like the
$insert_widget should look like $insert_existing_theme I want
information like the $insert_widget should look like
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 19:52 +0100, Samuel Abels wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 12:32 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
I'm not fond of the colors in the screenshot you're referring to, but
I do like the engine a lot. I'm currently using the ClearlooksBluey
theme, which ships with Clearlooks.
I have
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 19:29 +, Aidan Delaney wrote:
Hey all,
What do you want in a new default theme? I'm looking for everything
from big-picture to details. I don't want information like the
$insert_widget should look like $insert_existing_theme I want
information like the
Using my voice as gnome-themes maintainer, please hold off on this Christian.
-Seth
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:21:09 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nuvola is today in gnome-themes-extras. I am going to move it into
gnome-themes if the maintainers of that
On Thu, 2005-17-02 at 06:36 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Aidan Delaney
What do you want in a new default theme? I'm looking for everything
from big-picture to details. I don't want information like the
$insert_widget should look like $insert_existing_theme I want
information
Jeff Waugh wrote:
More and more, I'm getting the balance of these two: The icons look good,
but the colours are dull (which is somewhat on purpose, because we don't
want to overwhelm the user, but they tend to come across very brown [1]).
yup, brown is the same comment I got... after asking it
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 21:45 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote:
I certainly support a new default widget theme (the popular candidates
look nice to me, no favoritism there), but please, please please don't
mess with the icon theme!
Fully agreed. The default wm is not good (difficult to click
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:11 +0100, Paolo Borelli wrote:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
More and more, I'm getting the balance of these two: The icons look good,
but the colours are dull (which is somewhat on purpose, because we don't
want to overwhelm the user, but they tend to come across very brown
Gabriel Bauman wrote:
Most folks I know install GNOME, shudder, then install Bluecurve and
never look back.
Is it a Red Hat licensing issue perhaps?
I would say it's a little more than that. Bluecurve is what identifies
RedHat. I don't think that it would be appropriate to use it, legally
Hey guys,
Remember that not all user are technician and normal end users like
colors. The KDE themes and icons is very nice, I prefer GNOME but normal
users like a my girlfriend, my sister and my friends like colors.
Ok... somebody say me hey install another theme, gnome-look theres a
lot of
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:00 -0800, Gabriel Bauman wrote:
Most folks I know install GNOME, shudder, then install Bluecurve and
never look back.
Most folks I know remove GNOME and switch to KDE because they don't find
GNOME attractive with Bluecurve as default theme on Fedora or Red Hat. I
think
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 12:13 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote:
Gabriel Bauman wrote:
Most folks I know install GNOME, shudder, then install Bluecurve and
never look back.
Is it a Red Hat licensing issue perhaps?
I would say it's a little more than that. Bluecurve is what identifies
RedHat. I don't
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 19:52 +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote:
Well, did you take a look at Clearlooks
Just in case anyone wants a look at this engine and uses Debian, I've
got packages in http://burtonini.com/debian, specifically:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Dave Ahlswede wrote:
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:31:43 -0500
From: Dave Ahlswede [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Exciting GNOME?
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:11 +0100, Paolo Borelli wrote:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
More and more, I'm getting
This CleanLooks is nice but I dont like menus... I think that menu need
to be same aspect at tool bar like original BlueCurve.
Everaldo.
Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 19:52 +0100, Daniel Borgmann escreveu:
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 12:13 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote:
Gabriel Bauman wrote:
Most folks I know
ClearLooks is really nice but now we need a more atractive icon set.
Everaldo.
Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 17:53 -0200, Everaldo Canuto escreveu:
This CleanLooks is nice but I dont like menus... I think that menu need
to be same aspect at tool bar like original BlueCurve.
Everaldo.
Em Ter,
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 18:06 -0200, Everaldo Canuto wrote:
ClearLooks is really nice but now we need a more atractive icon set.
Are they icons really that bad? Is it just the folders that most people
find boring? Most the icons seem pretty nice to me.
The biggest problem I see with the icons
--- Sean Middleditch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are they icons really that
bad? Is it just the folders that most people
find boring? Most the icons
seem pretty nice to me.
I think the GNOME Icons are on the whole really
good, and I'd strongly resist moving to some gooey kde-like icon theme. I
do
Hi,
Ok... the icons are not ugly but need more colors, I say one more time,
the end users like colors and because this some users like Kde Icons.
End users dont like gray desktop and for a moment (except for Fedora
users) the G of GNOME is a Gray.
Everaldo.
Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 20:27 +,
I think the new etiquette icon theme is quite attractive... It's still
clean like the default Gnome one, but it has a refreshing new look...
Especially the mime-types... I love it...
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19853
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:06:17 -0200, Everaldo Canuto
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 19:52 +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote:
Well, did you take a look at Clearlooks? Someone mentioned it at the
Wiki, I tried it and it totally blew me away!
Wow. I have a new default theme. The only issue I have with it so far is
a common one with most GTK engines: menu bars
This isn't the place to start a KDE/GNOME flamewar. End users is very
general. Everyone likes something different. The current desktop
trendiness is to be flashy with colors and stuff. OS X doesn't really
have that much color. It's just a very well done interface. Making
things shiny with a
I am not intent to start a flamewar... I really like to see GNOME with a
better look but I think that the hackers know what change themes and
is very important that default theme is designed to end-users like
Windows XP and KDE 3.3.
No flames please... I am a GNOME user. :)
I dont like when I
Ok.
Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 13:39 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru escreveu:
Look at this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5358
A nice icon theme. Colors and Life
Sorry, but this is just not gnome. What we see in this icon theme is
cartoonish-style icons that have absolutely no
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Jeff Waugh
Particularly with GTK+ 2.8 on the horizon, we should be looking at
leapfrogging the current best effort [2], no matching it. :-)
[2] That has got to be OS X.
Also, a theme so good that it would unify vendor appearance of GNOME. So
good that vendors would be
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 22:04 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote:
we should be looking at leapfrogging the current best effort [2], no
matching it. :-)
Fully agreed. That's how we should be thinking at all times. :)
BTW, about the theme thing, I had a suggestion a few months ago:
I think a competition is a good idea. Seems more likely than a long
thread on d-d-l to produce results (based on previous discussions about
themes on d-d-l). For what its worth, I never designed
SmoothGNOME/Glider with flashy, shiny, eye-candy effects in mind. Not
sure why we feel the need to
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 07:48 -0800, Link Dupont wrote:
I think a competition is a good idea. Seems more likely than a long
thread on d-d-l to produce results (based on previous discussions about
themes on d-d-l). For what its worth, I never designed
SmoothGNOME/Glider with flashy, shiny,
Incidentally metacity is due for a bump in the theme version to add new
and exciting capabilities built on Cairo and Gtk 2.8 after the branch.
Talented and visionary eye-candy folks are being solicited. Maybe
metacity needs plugable metacity theme engines.
-Rob
Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
A theme competition on gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org might be a
good idea. The first rule should be, No pixmap themes allowed!,
however. I can't stand most of them.
--
My logic is undeniable.
___
desktop-devel-list mailing list
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 09:35 -0800, Rob Adams wrote:
Incidentally metacity is due for a bump in the theme version to add new
and exciting capabilities built on Cairo and Gtk 2.8 after the branch.
Talented and visionary eye-candy folks are being solicited. Maybe
metacity needs plugable
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 12:43 -0500, Mystilleef wrote:
A theme competition on gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org might be a
good idea. The first rule should be, No pixmap themes allowed!,
however.
I wouldn't say that. If somebody comes up with a reasonable fast pixmap
engine the user wouldn't even
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 19:36 +0100, Maciej Katafiasz wrote:
Anything besides obvious it needs to be distributed separately thing?
Does the fact that engines are compiled binaries ever cause compat
problems?
There are always going to be compat issues, binary or not. You either
have a binary API
quote who=Link Dupont
Not sure why we feel the need to have such a theme as a default though;
the only reason I can see is to compete with OS X (lets face it, we've got
Windows XP Luna beat, even with themes like Crux o_O). Do we want to
advertise GNOME as a flashy eye-candy based Desktop? I
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 08:30 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
Do you think of OS X's look'n'feel as flashy eye-candy? I don't. :-) It is
very clean, very fresh, minimal in most cases (and becoming less funky with
every OS X release). It might appear to be flashy because it's so different.
A lot of people
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Shaun McCance wrote:
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:34:41 -0600
From: Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Exciting GNOME?
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 08:30 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Link Dupont
Not sure why we feel
Hi,
On last week my friend Willian (Willian is a lawyer) look at me using
Evolution and say: Hey, this is a cool application. Can you install on
my computer?. I have install the Fedora 3 on his computer and he likes
the look of GNOME applications. The BlueCurve theme is nice for end
users and I
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 01:45 -0200, Everaldo Canuto wrote:
A new default theme for GTK solve some problem but another problem is a
default theme icon for GNOME... I ask some normal end users about the
screenshots and all users (100% of 11 users) say me that the GNOME icons
is not cool and
quote who=Davyd Madeley
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 01:45 -0200, Everaldo Canuto wrote:
A new default theme for GTK solve some problem but another problem is a
default theme icon for GNOME... I ask some normal end users about the
screenshots and all users (100% of 11 users) say me that the
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:10 -0800, Rob Adams wrote:
I think that the gnome icons are absolutely gorgeous.
I agree-- I much prefer the soft, toned down colors to the bright
rainbow that (for example) the Crystal SVG icons offer.
I certainly support a new default widget theme (the popular
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 00:20 -0500, Dave Ahlswede wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:10 -0800, Rob Adams wrote:
I think that the gnome icons are absolutely gorgeous.
I agree-- I much prefer the soft, toned down colors to the bright
rainbow that (for example) the Crystal SVG icons offer.
I
I certainly support a new default widget theme (the popular candidates
look nice to me, no favoritism there), but please, please please don't
mess with the icon theme!
Fully agreed. The default wm is not good (difficult to click its buttons)
and both the Simple and Default widget themes leave
Il giorno lun, 14-02-2005 alle 21:45 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru ha
scritto:
I certainly support a new default widget theme (the popular candidates
look nice to me, no favoritism there), but please, please please don't
mess with the icon theme!
Fully agreed. The default wm is not good
quote who=Callum McKenzie
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 00:29 -0400, Steven Garrity wrote:
If there was anything close to consensus in the last round of debate
about a new default theme (Glider? Indubstrial?), it might be nice to
get it in right at the beginning of 2.11 and start to deal with any
quote who=Ryan McDougall
Its early in the consensus building, but I'm all for a hardcore push for a
wonderful new theme, including heavily publicizing on art.gnome.org,
gnome-look.org, even slashdot! Promises of wealth and fortune for the
winner could be interesting.
Donations welcome.
quote who=Jeff Waugh
Particularly with GTK+ 2.8 on the horizon, we should be looking at
leapfrogging the current best effort [2], no matching it. :-)
[2] That has got to be OS X.
Also, a theme so good that it would unify vendor appearance of GNOME. So
good that vendors would be
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 14:30 +0900, Ryan McDougall wrote:
Yeah, but I would like to hear about or participate in formulating plans
for actively involving the right segments of the community.
This is where the plans start:
http://live.gnome.org/NewDefaultTheme
It is only ten minutes worth of
we should be looking at leapfrogging the current best effort [2], no
matching it. :-)
Fully agreed. That's how we should be thinking at all times. :)
BTW, about the theme thing, I had a suggestion a few months ago:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2004-September/msg00172.html
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