Le ven. 3 juin 2016 à 20:29, Sébastien Wilmet a
écrit :
Then the gnome-games project can recommend to distros to use another
name for the package, so that it has more chances that it'll be the
same
name on all distros.
Sure, as said previously in this list: I recommend distros having a
nami
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:50:04AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> I talked with Adrien and he doesn't want to change the name... so GNOME
> Games it will continue to be. So there's probably not much point to
> continued discussion here.
>
> I realize this is inconvenient for Debian and other di
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 07:05 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> Since this app has not yet been packaged by distros, I think now
> would
> be a great time to change the name (GNOME Video Games is my
> preference). A name change would be painful down the road, but if we
> do
> it now it's not so bad.
On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 15:53 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > Yet this is what you're doing. If you want an application to be
> > renamed, you'd better make sure that you can actually come up with
> > a
> > good name, and argue why
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Yet this is what you're doing. If you want an application to be
> renamed, you'd better make sure that you can actually come up with a
> good name, and argue why it is an insurmountable problem to call the
> package "gnome-games-app"
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 20:43 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > If you want an application to be
> > renamed, you'd better make sure that you can actually come up with
> > a
> > good name, and argue why it is an insurmountable problem
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> If you want an application to be
> renamed, you'd better make sure that you can actually come up with a
> good name, and argue why it is an insurmountable problem to call the
> package "gnome-games-app" or similar in your distributio
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 15:03 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 2016-06-02 14:38 GMT+02:00 Bastien Nocera :
> > And for gnome-photos you expect a collection of photos?
>
> Jeremy raised valid concerns which I share and your response are
> snide remarks.
>
> This is not constructive.
It's not construct
2016-06-02 14:38 GMT+02:00 Bastien Nocera :
> And for gnome-photos you expect a collection of photos?
Jeremy raised valid concerns which I share and your response are snide remarks.
This is not constructive.
Please take the concerns of your users and downstreams more seriously.
We are here beca
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 13:03 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 2016-06-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Bastien Nocera :
> > gnome-games package in your distribution "gnome-games-app". There's
> > already prior art in that case with epiphany, the web browser vs.
> > the
> > game.
>
> Right, I hope we don't repeat th
That being said, I would prefer Bastien's suggestion of renaming the
downstream packages as "gnome-games-app" (leaving the upstream as
"gnome-games"). It seems like a decent middle ground where everybody
can be happy.
Adrien Plazas
Le jeu. 2 juin 2016 à 14:30, Adrien Plazas
a écrit :
It ma
It may sound like I'm against changing the application's name, but I'm
not: I'm against changing it for a weaker name. The name should be
short, catchy and describe well the application, unfortunately no other
name suggested so far did all of these better than GNOME Games (GNOME
Video Games is
On 06/02/2016 02:01 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 13:34 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
With my Fedora packager hat on, a rename would make it easier in
Fedora
land as well.
Why? We have a @gnome-games package group, not a package; is it not
possible for a package to have the s
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 13:03 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Right, I hope we don't repeat that mistake. That name conflict is
> rather painful and confusing.
> Let's not repeat that if we can avoid it.
>
> Reading gnome-games, I expect a collection of games, thh. Given
> Adrien's explanations, I thi
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 13:34 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
> With my Fedora packager hat on, a rename would make it easier in
> Fedora
> land as well.
Why? We have a @gnome-games package group, not a package; is it not
possible for a package to have the same name as a package group?
Michael
_
On 06/02/2016 01:03 PM, Michael Biebl wrote:
2016-06-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Bastien Nocera :
gnome-games package in your distribution "gnome-games-app". There's
already prior art in that case with epiphany, the web browser vs. the
game.
Right, I hope we don't repeat that mistake. That name conflic
2016-06-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Bastien Nocera :
> gnome-games package in your distribution "gnome-games-app". There's
> already prior art in that case with epiphany, the web browser vs. the
> game.
Right, I hope we don't repeat that mistake. That name conflict is
rather painful and confusing.
Let's no
On Wed, 2016-06-01 at 21:56 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Adrien Plazas et> wrote:
> > AFAIK the application is already distributed in Arch since 3.18 and
> > as a
> > Flatpak with the gnome-games name.
>
> No, it's not in Arch yet really. [1]
>
> It's funny you br
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Adrien Plazas wrote:
> AFAIK the application is already distributed in Arch since 3.18 and as a
> Flatpak with the gnome-games name.
No, it's not in Arch yet really. [1]
It's funny you bring up Flatpak though, because I think that proves
you *can* change a project
AFAIK the application is already distributed in Arch since 3.18 and as
a Flatpak with the gnome-games name. Also this name change causes no or
next to no problem from the project's POV as the gnome-games name is
deprecated since at least two years now.
This seems like a distribution problem an
Also this name change causes no or next to no problem from the
project's POV
I meant "Also this name collision causes...".
Adrien Plazas
Le mer. 1 juin 2016 à 13:47, Adrien Plazas
a écrit :
AFAIK the application is already distributed in Arch since 3.18 and
as a Flatpak with the gnome-game
On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 23:40 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> It's very confusing to have a new app whose source is named
> gnome-games [1] since that name was already used not that long
> ago.[2]
>
> On Debian and derivatives, gnome-games is still in active use [3] as
> a
> metapackage for those who w
Hi Jeremy,
There has been long discussions about this and unfortunately no other
name fitted the application better than gnome-games as all other name
suggestions didn't reflect well enough what the application does: i.e.
gnome-games-launcher probably wouldn't work as the application doesn't
It's very confusing to have a new app whose source is named
gnome-games [1] since that name was already used not that long ago.[2]
On Debian and derivatives, gnome-games is still in active use [3] as a
metapackage for those who would like to easily install all of the
games in the gnome-apps module
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