Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-14 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 4/14/05, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issues I see as far as the feel of speed when starting my system isn't once you're logged in and your session is restoring (my session is to start nothing on login), but before, after I've typed my password into gdm and hit enter, and the system

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-13 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:42:41 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: Interestingly enough, implementing things such as disk defrag and sane readahead (a'la Windows XP and Mac OS X) may actually help mask the root problems we're seeing right now. So we better work on them before it's too late :-) random

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-13 Thread Narayana Pattipati
Hi, I did profiling of gnome login process way back in Aug 2002 on GNOME 2.0. I am not sure if its entirely correct now, but it could give some inputs. You may want to have a look at the post and related discussions at: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-August/msg00342.html

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-13 Thread Alan
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 12:51:40AM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:42:41 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: Interestingly enough, implementing things such as disk defrag and sane readahead (a'la Windows XP and Mac OS X) may actually help mask the root problems we're seeing right

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-12 Thread Jamie McCracken
Havoc Pennington wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:09 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: yes we know its disk seeks that are causing the problem and secondly GConf is the most disk intensive service at start up and lastly due to its design of having loads of files that need to be read. Put all three

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-12 Thread Soeren Sandmann
Jamie McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a little skeptical because IIRC the mail I posted with the gconf-on-startup profiling numbers only showed 2-3 seconds for GConf. Which is worth fixing, but by no means explains the entire login time. A good place to start for full data would

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Jamie McCracken
Nat Friedman wrote: One of the operations I would like to see optimized is login speed. It takes a pretty long time to login on most GNOME desktops, and I think it would be great if we could improve the login time (how long it takes before icons appear on your desktop and you can use the menu or

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Ikke
If GConf is making login slow, I think we should fix GConf. :-) Nat Nat: http://www.google.be/search?hl=nlclient=firefoxrls=org.mozilla% 3Aen-US%3Aunofficialq=dconf+site%3Afreedesktop.orgbtnG=Zoekenmeta= http://freax.be/wiki/index.php/Temporary_location_for_D-Conf_specs Ikke

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:21 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: The culprit is pretty obviously GConf which is why I'm glad DConf is considering having a DB backend to address this. The short term fixes which Havoc has already suggested (moving the schema crap sideways and possibly mmap'ing some

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Jamie McCracken
Sean Middleditch wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:21 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: The culprit is pretty obviously GConf which is why I'm glad DConf is considering having a DB backend to address this. The short term fixes First off, that is not at all obvious. Any evidence to show that it's the

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Jamie McCracken
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:21 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: The culprit is pretty obviously GConf which is why I'm glad DConf is considering having a DB backend to address this. The short term fixes which Havoc has already suggested (moving the schema crap sideways and

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:21 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: The culprit is pretty obviously GConf which is why I'm glad DConf is considering having a DB backend to address this. The short term fixes which Havoc has already suggested (moving the schema crap sideways and possibly mmap'ing some

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:13 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 18:21 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: The culprit is pretty obviously GConf which is why I'm glad DConf is considering having a DB backend to address this. The short term fixes which

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:30 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: As GConf supports pluggable backends now, I wouldn't be surprised if a prototype database backend could be hacked up in a day. Why wait for DConf (assuming it actually fixes the other problems and doesn't end up being another system

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:09 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: yes we know its disk seeks that are causing the problem and secondly GConf is the most disk intensive service at start up and lastly due to its design of having loads of files that need to be read. Put all three together... I'm a

Re: GUADEC Hacking

2005-04-11 Thread David Zeuthen
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 21:59 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:09 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: yes we know its disk seeks that are causing the problem and secondly GConf is the most disk intensive service at start up and lastly due to its design of having loads of