Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-11 Thread Martyn Russell
On 05/10/2012 08:24 PM, John Stowers wrote: The point is that we already use Tracker in GNOME (Documents and Boxes depend on it) and I don't see any reason for existing apps to stop using it and while we could compromise on some code-duplication, its certainly a big issue if there is two

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Biebl
2012/5/11 Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com: On 05/10/2012 08:24 PM, John Stowers wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought GNOME only depended on tracker-store and not the indexer? The two are in the same tarball release, so it would be up to packagers to separate them and AFAIK,

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-11 Thread Martyn Russell
On 05/11/2012 11:30 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2012/5/11 Martyn Russellmar...@lanedo.com: On 05/10/2012 08:24 PM, John Stowers wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought GNOME only depended on tracker-store and not the indexer? The two are in the same tarball release, so it would be up

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Martyn Russell
On 05/10/2012 03:47 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote: hello from Yorba, makers of Shotwell. Hi, Adam! We met in Berlin at the Collabora party during the Desktop Summit. You probably remember me as one of the authors of Solang. For those who don't know Solang (http://git.gnome.org/browse/solang) was a

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 02:47 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: So from Shotwell's point of view, would it make sense to replace its existing SQLite store and UI? Would it not be as good as writing from scratch? Shotwell's database is presumably optimized for what Shotwell needs to do. Tracker, as a

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2012/5/9 Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se hello from Yorba, makers of Shotwell. Hi, Adam! We met in Berlin at the Collabora party during the Desktop Summit. You probably remember me as one of the authors of Solang. For those who don't know Solang (http://git.gnome.org/browse/solang) was a

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Shotwell is widely deployed and used, it has a team of people working on it, and a commercial backer. These are VERY important things, prolly the most important things to take into account, you worry too much about the data

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: ... That's not a reason at all, Yorba seems open to work on making Shotwell more GNOME 3 friendly... so those widgets can be shared anyway Therefore, for these reasons, if you look at the gnome-photos tree, it is

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Martyn Russell
On 05/10/2012 06:32 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 20:14 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: Shotwell is widely deployed and used, it has a team of people working on it, and a commercial backer. These are

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
It is my understanding that Jon had discussions with the developers of these applications, and for various reasons it was decided that writing something from scratch is better. For EoG and GThumb the reason given was that their maintainers did not have time to work on a major redesign, and for

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 19:10 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: snip We would gladly ONLY index data that's of interest to the user/desktop applications if you could come up with heuristics for that. I touched on that somewhat in my response earlier. Also, having superfluous coverage is better

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread John Stowers
The point is that we already use Tracker in GNOME (Documents and Boxes depend on it) and I don't see any reason for existing apps to stop using it and while we could compromise on some code-duplication, its certainly a big issue if there is two entities harvesting metadata from tons of

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Dingle
Debarshi, hello from Yorba, makers of Shotwell. Shotwell's goals are exactly those laid out in the design document below: to be a lightweight, elegant photo browser/viewer for GNOME supporting basic manipulation, easy photo sharing/publishing, slideshows and so on.  If the GNOME team feels

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-09 Thread Adam Dingle
A quick followup: in my last post I didn't mean to accuse the GNOME design team of being uncooperative.  In fact, we have had some past discussions about this in which we've realized that there are differences between Shotwell today and the vision in the GNOME Photos design document, both in

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-09 Thread Debarshi Ray
hello from Yorba, makers of Shotwell. Hi, Adam! We met in Berlin at the Collabora party during the Desktop Summit. You probably remember me as one of the authors of Solang. For those who don't know Solang (http://git.gnome.org/browse/solang) was a photo manager that I wrote during the dying

Introducing Photos

2012-05-04 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hello everybody! Around 10 days ago I started implementing Photos as laid out in these designs: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Photos The Git tree is at: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-photos Currently the application does not do much other than showing a blank window, but most of the