Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-26 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 19:28 +0200, David Prieto wrote: I'll file bugs. :) Where can we file bugs BTW? I'd like to make some suggestions but I can't find any launchpad page for gnome-main-menu. Haha, I see Mark's plan for World Domination is doing well. I can't see a page on

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 17:40 -0400, Jim Krehl wrote: I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. Under Places with the traditional menus I have some bookmarks: my local webroot and my photos. I use these

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread Toby Smithe
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 04:23 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: On 10/24/06, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 14:11 +0100, Iain * wrote: You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added. Thanks. Unfortunately, this still seems pretty

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread Bill Haneman
I like the use of colour to differentiate areas, I think we should do more of this in GNOME. Yes, same here. Colour seems to help highlight. OK - but please remember, however you choose to implement highlighting, it is _vital_ that the coloring be based on theme colors, otherwise

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 08:14 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 17:40 -0400, Jim Krehl wrote: I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. Under Places with the traditional menus I have

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread JP Rosevear
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 08:45 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 08:14 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 17:40 -0400, Jim Krehl wrote: I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread JP Rosevear
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 10:52 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote: On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 04:23 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: On 10/24/06, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 14:11 +0100, Iain * wrote: You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-25 Thread David Prieto
I'll file bugs. :) Where can we file bugs BTW? I'd like to make some suggestions but I can't find any launchpad page for gnome-main-menu. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Calum Benson
On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 13:48 -0700, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: I'm in total agreement here. I've used the slab menu which is included in Ubuntu. For those who want to make useful comments about slab as it compares with the other menu setups can apt-get install gnome-main-menu on Edgy. My

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Don Scorgie
Hi, On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 13:09 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 13:48 -0700, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: I'm in total agreement here. I've used the slab menu which is included in Ubuntu. For those who want to make useful comments about slab as it compares with the other menu

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Iain *
[3] If there is another way, I couldn't find it You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added. iain ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Don Scorgie
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 14:11 +0100, Iain * wrote: [3] If there is another way, I couldn't find it You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added. Thanks. Unfortunately, this still seems pretty weird to me. The Computer menu closes as soon as I click somewhere

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Iain *
On 10/24/06, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 14:11 +0100, Iain * wrote: [3] If there is another way, I couldn't find it You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added. Thanks. Unfortunately, this still seems pretty weird to me.

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 13:43 +0100, Don Scorgie wrote: One of the cool features of the deskbar applet is showing options as you type. With the main menu, using search will open beagle with you're search terms. Not for me it won't-- I don't have beagle installed :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 10/24/06, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 14:11 +0100, Iain * wrote: You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added. Thanks. Unfortunately, this still seems pretty weird to me. The Computer menu closes as soon as I click somewhere

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-24 Thread Sri Ramkrishna
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 19:42 +0100, Iain * wrote: I like the use of colour to differentiate areas, I think we should do more of this in GNOME. Yes, same here. Colour seems to help highlight. I didn't find it as effective in the applications browser. While it was good using it to

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Steve Frécinaux wrote: Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab thing looks like Windows' start menu but doesn't behave anything like

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Toby Smithe
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 20:46 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, Steve Frécinaux wrote: Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab thing

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:48:46 -0700 From: Sri Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [ISO-8859-1] Germ�n Po� Caama�o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED], desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Elijah Newren
On 10/23/06, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice if proposed modules could be included in odd numbered releases without first fully accepting it so as to help when it comes to testing and evaluation See also

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Iain *
On 10/20/06, Diego Escalante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I was annoyed by how the application and configuration browser were ALWAYS running and eating about 100Mb of RAM. It's not an issue for me thanks to my Gig of RAM but for someone with less RAM it can be a killer problem. Is this

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Jim Krehl
Any chance you could do a release first, so non-{SUSE,CVS} users can try it out? :) Sure. You can find a tarball of v0.6.3 at http://jimmyk.org/gnome-main-menu/. Thanks! jimmyk ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Jim Krehl
When i checked it out of the cvs a couple of months back, i noticed a few things. - docpath to search for docs is bad, this in an extension on the .desktop file. - the default gnome preferences menu is settings.menu not preferences.menu, if it stays this way not everything will show up.

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-22 Thread Sri Ramkrishna
I'm in total agreement here. I've used the slab menu which is included in Ubuntu. For those who want to make useful comments about slab as it compares with the other menu setups can apt-get install gnome-main-menu on Edgy. My personal feeling is that it does seem kind of slow. I find it hard

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-21 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno ven, 20/10/2006 alle 13.30 -0400, Rodney Dawes ha scritto: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:04 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: Hi Jim, Where should bugs be filed? I don't see a component in gnome bugzilla. I suppose one should be created. Just for the record, you don't e-mail

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-21 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno ven, 20/10/2006 alle 14.56 -0400, Rodney Dawes ha scritto: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 20:25 +0200, Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS.

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-21 Thread Callum McKenzie
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 11:23 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: Should GNOME include slab? IMHO, yes, while there are some relevant stuff that should be fixed or rearranged IMHO (see below) Should GNOME switch to slab and dump current panel menu applet? IMHO, no. I don't know what could be the

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-21 Thread Martin Ejdestig
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 11:23 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: The default panel layout in GNOME looks like some inane mix of Mac OS and Windows, and has been a point of confusion for many people switching over. But there are also long time GNOME users that are fine with current panel menu

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 15:39 +0200, Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 11:23 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: Should GNOME include slab? IMHO, yes, while there are some relevant stuff that should be fixed or rearranged IMHO (see below) Should GNOME switch to slab and dump current

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 21:09 -0700, Corey Burger wrote: On 10/19/06, Jim Krehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. * It's stable, it's functionality having

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Jamie McCracken
Rodrigo Moya wrote: I have a few questions: How do you see this menu structure interacting with the existing two menu options? Are you proposing that we replace our currently three menu structure with the single one of the gnome-main-menu? Do you propose to have it as an option? If it is

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Steve Frécinaux
Rodrigo Moya wrote: IMO, it should replace the menu applet currently in gnome-panel, they serve the same purpose but slab has a much better look and a few extra features that make it quite useful, so if I were decide, I would include slab in the panel, to replace the current menu IMHO the

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Evandro Giovanini
2006/10/20, Jamie McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rodrigo Moya wrote: I have a few questions: How do you see this menu structure interacting with the existing two menu options? Are you proposing that we replace our currently three menu structure with the single one of the gnome-main-menu?

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Jim Krehl
Having looked at the source, slab is currently hardcoded to use Beagle if its available. However there is no easy way to allow me to offer tracker as a search service to this. The command that one uses for search is a gconf key that can be easily changed to use any search utility that

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Evandro Fernandes Giovanini
Em Sex, 2006-10-20 às 13:27 +0200, Steve Frécinaux escreveu: Rodrigo Moya wrote: IMO, it should replace the menu applet currently in gnome-panel, they serve the same purpose but slab has a much better look and a few extra features that make it quite useful, so if I were decide, I would

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Jim,Where should bugs be filed? I don't see a component in gnome bugzilla. I suppose one should be created.Some initial thoughts from just a first look so they may be ignorant and superficial:* Ellipsis is used for items that require input (eg. Log Out...) and for those with not enough space.

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:04 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: Hi Jim, Where should bugs be filed? I don't see a component in gnome bugzilla. I suppose one should be created. Just for the record, you don't e-mail them directly to the person who's name appears first in the about box. We do

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Evandro Fernandes Giovanini
Em Sex, 2006-10-20 às 13:30 -0400, Rodney Dawes escreveu: Looks really nice though. And congratulations and thank you for not using submenus. While we've avoided using submenus for the time being, I think they may be necessary to solve some of the usability issues that exist with the

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 17:40 -0400, Jim Krehl wrote: I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. Any chance you could do a release first, so non-{SUSE,CVS} users can try it out? :)

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Scott J. Harmon
Mark Rosenstand wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 17:40 -0400, Jim Krehl wrote: I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. Any chance you could do a release first, so non-{SUSE,CVS} users can try it out?

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Martin Ejdestig
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab thing looks like Windows' start menu but doesn't behave anything like the real thing on Windows. Or did I miss something?

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Rob Adams
One question about slab: Why does it start an entirely separate program when you select More Applications? On my system, this has a 2-3 second delay when pressing this button the first time, and about slightly more than 1 second on subsequent presses. On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 20:25 +0200, Martin

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Germán Poó Caamaño
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 11:27 -0700, Rob Adams wrote: One question about slab: Why does it start an entirely separate program when you select More Applications? On my system, this has a 2-3 second delay when pressing this button the first time, and about slightly more than 1 second on

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Corey Burger
On 10/20/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 20:25 +0200, Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 20:25 +0200, Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab thing looks like Windows' start menu but doesn't behave

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Arjan Timmerman
hi all, well i think slab/gnome-main-menu does need a lot of work. When i checked it out of the cvs a couple of months back, i noticed a few things. - docpath to search for docs is bad, this in an extension on the .desktop file. Which the fd.o standard says it should be X-GNOME-Docpath.Read up

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Elijah Newren
On 10/20/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:04 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: Hi Jim, Where should bugs be filed? I don't see a component in gnome bugzilla. I suppose one should be created. Just for the record, you don't e-mail them directly to the

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 15:07 -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote: Em Sex, 2006-10-20 às 13:30 -0400, Rodney Dawes escreveu: Looks really nice though. And congratulations and thank you for not using submenus. While we've avoided using submenus for the time being, I think they may

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 12:15 -0700, Corey Burger wrote: I am going to have to disagree with you. The primary issue I have seen is with where the menu is (the upper right) rather than how the menu looks. We're talking about the main menu with the 3 items, one of which has an icon, not the

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Martin Ejdestig
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 14:56 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 20:25 +0200, Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Steve Frécinaux
Martin Ejdestig wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 13:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The menu thing looks like the Mac menu, but doesn't behave anything like the real thing does on Mac OS. And the slab thing looks like Windows' start menu but doesn't behave anything like the real thing on Windows.

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Alan Horkan
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Jim Krehl wrote: Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:40:13 -0400 From: Jim Krehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: desktop-devel-list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18 [I'm replying to the first message but I have read through much

Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-19 Thread Jim Krehl
Hi, I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. * It's stable, it's functionality having undergone many rounds of testing. * It's been included in a variety of distributions, primarily in openSUSE.

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-19 Thread Diego Escalante
Hello Jim, I have used Slab and I must agree that it's a pretty interesting option for a menu applet, but I was annoyed by how the application and configuration browser were ALWAYS running and eating about 100Mb of RAM. It's not an issue for me thanks to my Gig of RAM but for someone with less

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-19 Thread Corey Burger
On 10/19/06, Jim Krehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. * It's stable, it's functionality having undergone many rounds of testing. * It's been included in a