GTK2 Themes in GNOME 3

2014-02-15 Thread alex diavatis
Hello, GNOME 3 GTK3 theme specifications point that themes (user-specific) should be installed under ~/.local/share/themes. That won't work for GTK2, and GTK2 themes are required to be installed in ~/.themes This is a known bug in bugzilla.gnome (cant find #) and GTK2 themes should be accessible

Re: GTK2 Themes in GNOME 3

2014-02-15 Thread Michael Ikey Doherty
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 11:29 +0200, alex diavatis wrote: Hello, GNOME 3 GTK3 theme specifications point that themes (user-specific) should be installed under ~/.local/share/themes. That won't work for GTK2, and GTK2 themes are required to be installed in ~/.themes This is a known bug

Re: GTK2 Themes in GNOME 3

2014-02-15 Thread alex diavatis
, Michael Ikey Doherty michael.i.dohe...@intel.com wrote: On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 11:29 +0200, alex diavatis wrote: Hello, GNOME 3 GTK3 theme specifications point that themes (user-specific) should be installed under ~/.local/share/themes. That won't work for GTK2, and GTK2 themes

Re: [totem] Created branch gnome-3-10

2013-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
Em Sun, 2013-07-28 às 18:07 +, Bastien Nocera escreveu: The branch 'gnome-3-10' was created pointing to: 08c1767... rotation: Don't check rotation for DVDs either Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have time to finish the work on Videos for GNOME 3.10, so I've branched off gnome-3-8

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-21 Thread bugs
For me Ctrl+PGUP/PGDN is to browse in order the tabs. Alt+Tab has always carried more a recently used, or history semantic, so I don't think they're the same. Hmm. Sounds sane! Just saw you're right, some applications are already implementing Ctrl+Tab that way, like Firefox and

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-19 Thread Luis Menina
Le 18/06/2013 10:40, bugs a écrit : What can be improved is the key-combination for switching between the tabs. For a weird, unknown reason, we don't rely on Ctrl+Tab for switching between tabs in most applications. That will fit much more in the expectations of the users, than Ctrl+PGUP/PGDN

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-19 Thread Luis Menina
Le 19/06/2013 12:56, Luis Menina a écrit : Le 18/06/2013 10:40, bugs a écrit : What can be improved is the key-combination for switching between the tabs. For a weird, unknown reason, we don't rely on Ctrl+Tab for switching between tabs in most applications. That will fit much more in the

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-18 Thread bugs
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:38:56 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: hi Luis; On 17 June 2013 17:09, Luis Menina liberfo...@freeside.fr wrote: I also whish one could cycle through the tabs of a tabbed application using just Alt+Tab too, gnome shell handling the tabs, to find the tab

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-17 Thread Luis Menina
Hi, Le 30/05/2013 17:52, אנטולי קרסנר a écrit : This is a lot of open windows, so I group them into workspaces. But it doesn't help, I still feel too inefficient sometimes, and I'd like to know how I can improve my desktop worflow and usage. You're not alone. I still have trouble getting the

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-17 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi Luis; On 17 June 2013 17:09, Luis Menina liberfo...@freeside.fr wrote: I also whish one could cycle through the tabs of a tabbed application using just Alt+Tab too, gnome shell handling the tabs, to find the tab of the same application I was using 5s ago. you really, *really* don't want

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-17 Thread אנטולי קרסנר
I agree we shouldn't scroll through tabs with Alt-Tab, but I can understand where the problem comes from. Very frequently I click on a link in Evolution or open containing folder or a file downloaded with Epiphany, and instead of having a new Nautilus/Epiphany tab open, the result is a whole new

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-06-17 Thread Luis Menina
Hi Emmanuele, Le 17/06/2013 18:38, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : On 17 June 2013 17:09, Luis Menina liberfo...@freeside.fr wrote: I also whish one could cycle through the tabs of a tabbed application using just Alt+Tab too, gnome shell handling the tabs, to find the tab of the same application I

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-05-31 Thread kwalo
only apps and windows from active workspace, so if I have 3 apps on my programming workspace, I can quickly Alt+Tab through them. Maybe it's not sane default for gnome-shell, but you may find it useful, if separate your tasks on different workspaces. I really think Gnome 3 can be great and more

Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-05-30 Thread אנטולי קרסנר
Hello, I've been using Gnome 3.4.2 for long time. I started using Gnome 3 because I believe in innovation and evolution through trial and error. But I noticed a problematic recurring pattern in my usage of my laptop (I don't carry it anywhere, and it's has a large screen, so it can be considered

Re: Switching Between Applications in Gnome 3

2013-05-30 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 18:52 +0300, אנטולי קרסנר wrote: Hello, Hi, I've been using Gnome 3.4.2 for long time. I started using Gnome 3 because I believe in innovation and evolution through trial and error. But I noticed a problematic recurring pattern in my usage of my laptop (I don't carry

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland NFS performance in GNOME 3

2013-03-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:48:40AM +0100, stefan skoglund(agj) wrote: The RedHat thing is a really longlived bug in redhats bugzilla about gvfs metadata induced overload of NFS servers. That bug is rather bad and i think that if it isn't resolved it will make GNOME3 impossible to run in

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland NFS performance in GNOME 3

2013-03-18 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
We have a gnome-integration list dedicated to integrating GNOME into environments. That would be a great place to discuss and figure it out. I'd like to see if we can make GNOME better in environments like yours. Login performance is slow even without NFS. Boot up performance to GDM seems to

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland NFS performance in GNOME 3

2013-03-18 Thread stefan skoglund(agj)
mån 2013-03-18 klockan 09:10 -0700 skrev Sriram Ramkrishna: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM, stefan skoglund(agj) stefan.skogl...@agj.net wrote: fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:32 -0400 skrev Matthias Clasen: I dont think Redhat wants to have the same type of

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-06-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 13:45 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: The newly designed (or redesigned) GNOME 3 applications have some common UI elements. For example, if you look at the following designs, you will notice that the main toolbar, selection toolbar, main icon view, etc. are quite similar

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-09 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:54 -0400, Erick Pérez Castellanos wrote: The way I see it, is that we need to provide some widgets to do the stuff following the guldelines of the new Gnome Design As Allan says here [1], there's a new kind of toolbar, which have some stuff in common, and it will be

Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
The newly designed (or redesigned) GNOME 3 applications have some common UI elements. For example, if you look at the following designs, you will notice that the main toolbar, selection toolbar, main icon view, etc. are quite similar: + https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Boxes + https

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
Hey Debarshi, On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 13:45 +, Debarshi Ray wrote: We may benefit from having a way to share these widgets among the applications. Currently, what I have been doing, for gnome-photos, is to copy-paste the *.c/*.h files from the gnome-documents tree. One downside of doing

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hi, On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: The newly designed (or redesigned) GNOME 3 applications have some common UI elements. For example, if you look at the following designs, you will notice that the main toolbar, selection toolbar, main icon view, etc

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
The newly designed (or redesigned) GNOME 3 applications have some common UI elements. For example, if you look at the following designs, you will notice that the main toolbar, selection toolbar, main icon view, etc. are quite similar: Sorry for being so naive but why couldn't this be part

Re: Sharing widgets between GNOME 3 applications

2012-05-07 Thread Erick Pérez Castellanos
The way I see it, is that we need to provide some widgets to do the stuff following the guldelines of the new Gnome Design As Allan says here [1], there's a new kind of toolbar, which have some stuff in common, and it will be worthy to look into the possibility of make a specific widget for it,

Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread surma
Hello, On to the point. Why did you screw up gnome menus? I've been using gnome since 2000, and it has been the best desktop available until gnome 3 came. I had a terrible car accident 31. Dets 2005, which caused me to spend 6 months in coma. That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Maciej Marcin Piechotka
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 09:40 +0300, surma wrote: Hello, On to the point. Why did you screw up gnome menus? I've been using gnome since 2000, and it has been the best desktop available until gnome 3 came. I had a terrible car accident 31. Dets 2005, which caused me to spend 6 months

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM, surma su...@hot.ee wrote: That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. That is why I liked gnome 2, everything could be done without mouse. And the same is true for Gnome3 - to navigate to an application, you can use super ctrlPgDown tab (tab | shifttab

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Le jeudi 03 mai 2012 à 16:56 +0200, Florian Müllner a écrit : That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. That is why I liked gnome 2, everything could be done without mouse. And the same is true for Gnome3 - to navigate to an application, you can use super

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Juanjo Marín
Why did you screw up gnome menus? I've been using gnome since 2000, and it has been the best desktop available until gnome 3 came. I had a terrible car accident 31. Dets 2005, which caused me to spend 6 months in coma. That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. That is why I liked gnome 2

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Juanjo Marín
- Mensaje original - De: Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es Para: surma su...@hot.ee; desktop-devel-list@gnome.org desktop-devel-list@gnome.org CC: Enviado: Jueves 3 de Mayo de 2012 18:23 Asunto: Re: Gnome 3 issues it is totally functional IMHO. BTW, I recommend GNOME 3.4

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Emmanuel Pacaud emman...@gnome.org wrote: Wouldn't it be better to make right arrow replace the ctrlPgDown tab sequence. ctrlPgUp/PgDown are the standard GNOME shortcuts for switching between tabs, so I don't think removing them is a good idea. Obviously we

About the name of GNOME 3 core application names / translation

2012-03-12 Thread Luc Pionchon
Hello, there is a discussion [1] on the internationalization mailing list about GNOME 3 core application names, the ambiguous situation they bring, and the difficulties it brings for translation. I try to summarize to the best the issue. Read the thread [1] and contact people for more information

Re: About the name of GNOME 3 core application names / translation

2012-03-12 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 08:53 +0200, Luc Pionchon wrote: [...] - copyright notices and such, should the name be so generic? And in translations, should the name be really translated here? Shouldn't it be made more explicit for example with adding GNOME, like in Copyright 2012 - the GNOME app

Re: About the name of GNOME 3 core application names / translation

2012-03-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:20:32AM -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 08:53 +0200, Luc Pionchon wrote: [...] - copyright notices and such, should the name be so generic? And in translations, should the name be really translated here? Shouldn't it be made more explicit

Re: About the name of GNOME 3 core application names / translation

2012-03-12 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 09:32 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:20:32AM -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 08:53 +0200, Luc Pionchon wrote: [...] - copyright notices and such, should the name be so generic? And in translations, should the name be

Re: About the name of GNOME 3 core application names / translation

2012-03-12 Thread Jason Simanek
Sounds like the issue comes out of text strings referring to the applications, not from copyright/trademark issues with the names themselves. I guess I would recommend this approach: Copyright statement copyright 2012 Gnome Web Browser copyright 2012 Gnome Files or copyright 2012 Gnome File

Gnome 3 themes, user overrides?

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Welsh Duggan
So, Gnome 3 uses a form of CSS for its theming. I'll go ahead and give it a good solid plusplus for that. Easy, understandable customization. Or at least one would think. So, CSS being the nice cascadey thing it is, I should be able to override a theme by placing something in a specific

Re: GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
at 8:30 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 08:25:16PM +0530, Narek Babadjanyan wrote: Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports GNOME 3's panel, if no :'( , and if yes, could you please tell

GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-12 Thread Narek Babadjanyan
Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports GNOME 3's panel, if no :'( , and if yes, could you please tell me where is the appropriate documentation? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
GNOME3 does not use gnome-panel. You change change GNOME3's top panel with GNOME Shell Extension. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Narek Babadjanyan baba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports GNOME 3's

Re: GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 08:25:16PM +0530, Narek Babadjanyan wrote: Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports GNOME 3's panel, if no :'( , and if yes, could you please tell me where is the appropriate documentation? What do you

Re: GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-12 Thread Narek Babadjanyan
...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 08:25:16PM +0530, Narek Babadjanyan wrote: Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports GNOME 3's panel, if no :'( , and if yes, could you please tell me where is the appropriate

Re: GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-12 Thread Juanjo Marín
De: Narek Babadjanyan baba...@gmail.com Para: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Enviado: lunes 12 de septiembre de 2011 16:55 Asunto: GNOME 3 panel applets Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-05 Thread pec...@gmail.com
with all apps thrown in it. This should be kept and improved. And yes, Meta key plus first two or three letters of applications in overview mode is a *killer* feature of GNOME 3 and should be treated as such, with tips for new users how to use it. And contrary, no, mouse is much slower than keyboard

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
You can pin apps to the dash by dragging them there, or right-click on its icon in the dash. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: I've been using Gnome 3 for some months, and overall I think it's definitely a step in the right direction. However, as a long

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Xavier Cho
clicks to key typing. 2011-09-04 (일), 01:58 -0400, Jeremy Bicha: On 4 September 2011 01:43, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: Most of all, I think Gnome 3 requires too much user interaction when navigating in the program menu. In the days of global application menu, when you need

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Xavier Cho
to the dash by dragging them there, or right-click on its icon in the dash. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: I've been using Gnome 3 for some months, and overall I think it's definitely a step in the right direction. However, as a long time Gnome 12 user, I

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Andy Wingo
On Sun 04 Sep 2011 08:31, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr writes: On a side note, I really like to see kind of a 'switchable' dock so I could change set of applications on it according to task currently I'm on. For example, when I do some music related work, I often use jackd related

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: In that case, we can just remove the application menu altogether and let them alt-f2 type commands to launch applications. Thats not the same thing at all. In case of alt-f2, user has to know the exact and complete

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
), 02:10 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre: You can pin apps to the dash by dragging them there, or right-click on its icon in the dash. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: I've been using Gnome 3 for some months, and overall I think it's definitely a step

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Xavier Cho
Ok, I can admit the overview mode is somewhat more user friendly than alt-f2. But still, demanding users to use their keyboard to perform such basic task as launching an application is not the way to achieve user friendliness. To be more precise, I suppose all those methods of launching

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Have you seen Killing Mode Switch[0]? It wasn't implemented in 3.2 because of time constraints, but it's planned. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=1181 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: Ok, I can admit the overview mode is somewhat more user friendly

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Xavier Cho
Seems awesome! It's definately an improvement over the current way of adding dock bar shortcuts. And it looks great too :) Still I like to navigate through application categories without moving my mouse from corner to corner or click multiple times to find the right application. Maybe we need

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Florian Max
2011/9/4 Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net Have you seen Killing Mode Switch[0]? It wasn't implemented in 3.2 because of time constraints, but it's planned. The more important reason for not doing it in the 3.2 time frame was that the design is unfinished (quote Jakub: don't work on

Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-03 Thread Xavier Cho
I've been using Gnome 3 for some months, and overall I think it's definitely a step in the right direction. However, as a long time Gnome 12 user, I find it lacking in some aspects in terms of usability and features. Most of all, I think Gnome 3 requires too much user interaction when

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-03 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 4 September 2011 01:43, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: Most of all, I think Gnome 3 requires too much user interaction when navigating in the program menu. In the days of global application menu, when you need to launch an application all you need to do was 1) click on the panel

Re: Archiving old non-maintained (for GNOME 3) applets

2011-07-08 Thread Vincent Untz
library instead for the GNOME 3 port). So unless anybody complains about those 5 modules, I'll file a bug to get them archived. No objection = I filed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654234 Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés

Archiving old non-maintained (for GNOME 3) applets

2011-06-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, I guess everyone knows that GNOME 2 applets don't work in GNOME 3, and talking here and there, the feedback I got is that it wasn't worth creating a bridge to be able to load those in the GNOME 3 panel. As several applets are not going to be ported to GNOME 3 (either because the code

Re: Archiving old non-maintained (for GNOME 3) applets

2011-06-10 Thread Paolo Bacchilega
Il 10/06/2011 12:07, Vincent Untz ha scritto: Hi, I guess everyone knows that GNOME 2 applets don't work in GNOME 3, and talking here and there, the feedback I got is that it wasn't worth creating a bridge to be able to load those in the GNOME 3 panel. As several applets are not going

Help, What modulset is correct for Gnome 3?

2011-05-14 Thread bsquared
Hello, What is the correct moduleset to use to build Gnome 3.0? I have tried both of these: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/releng/3.0.0/gnome-suites-core-deps-3.0.0.modules http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/releng/3.0.0/gnome-suites-core-deps-3.0.1.modules But the following

Re: Help, What modulset is correct for Gnome 3?

2011-05-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Please avoid cross-posting. This does not look like content for desktop-devel@ - please remove that address for potential responses. On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 10:13 -0700, bsquared wrote: What is the correct moduleset to use to build Gnome 3.0? gnome-suites-core. gnome-suites-core-deps are the

Re: Help, What modulset is correct for Gnome 3?

2011-05-14 Thread bsquared
What is the correct moduleset to use to build Gnome 3.0? gnome-suites-core. gnome-suites-core-deps are the dependencies of gnome-suites-core. I indicated only the problem moduleset(s). I have the corresponding gnome-core modulesets as well. I am asking about the versions, and the errors I

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 08:45 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This is why I think GNOME should start a marketing campaign of Awesome Hardware which is known to work flawlessly, and Sadface Hardware which is known to work, but with glitches. This can help users make informed choices while buying

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-18 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net a écrit: On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 08:45 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This is why I think GNOME should start a marketing campaign of Awesome Hardware which is known to work flawlessly, and Sadface Hardware which is known to work, but with glitches. This can help

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-18 Thread Justin Joseph
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: The correct use case for any electronic device is power on when using it, power off when not. I couldn't agree any more. The default behaviour should be shut-down/restart. In the suspend case there are very

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-18 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 17-04-2011 a las 23:39 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi escribió: hi; On 17 April 2011 23:31, Pacho Ramos pa...@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es wrote: El dom, 17-04-2011 a las 22:47 +0200, Andre Klapper escribió: On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 12:50 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Regarding

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-18 Thread Martyn Russell
On 04/18/2011 09:52 AM, Justin Joseph wrote: Thank you!!! And show me how do I access so called 'hibernate' in gnome shell. I didn't ask for a name. I asked for a feature. One more issue. I have just one user account in my system. Still I get 'logout' and 'switch user' in the menus. and

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 17 avril 2011 à 00:13 +0200, Johannes Schmid a écrit : Other than that, use gnome-tweak-tool to have a Power Off... option and control suspend behaviour. The problem is not for me, I know how to change a GSettings setting. I’m worried about our users. I’m really not thrilled at

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Sam Thursfield
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 05:17 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre a écrit : Other people want it because suspend doesn't work on their hardware. Adding a

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Justin Joseph
Suspend and hibernate are both hacks around the fact that power on and power off take a long time and that our session manager doesn't save session state. The correct use case for any electronic device is power on when using it, power off when not. I couldn't agree any more. The default

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 17-04-2011 a las 00:13 +0200, Johannes Schmid escribió: Can you move that discussion to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643457 please? Other than that, use gnome-tweak-tool to have a Power Off... option and control suspend behaviour. Thanks, Johannes

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:19, Sam Thursfield sss...@gmail.com wrote: I've been watching this discussion with increasing disappointment. Suspend and hibernate are both hacks around the fact that power on and power off take a long time and that our session manager doesn't save session state.

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Sam Thursfield sss...@gmail.com a écrit: Suspend and hibernate are both hacks around the fact that power on and power off take a long time and that our session manager doesn't save session state. This seems to be an over-simplification to me. Processes managed by the session manager are just

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Sam Thursfield
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Sam Thursfield sss...@gmail.com a écrit: Suspend and hibernate are both hacks around the fact that power on and power off take a long time and that our session manager doesn't save session state. This seems to be an

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 12:50 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Regarding gnome-tweak-tool, is it able to enable settings system-wide? Or, is that feature even planned for the future? https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTweakTool andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper |

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Alan Cox
The correct use case for any electronic device is power on when using it, power off when not. I couldn't agree any more. The default behaviour should be shut-down/restart. In the suspend case there are very good reasons for not wanting the user to think they have powered off and get a

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 17-04-2011 a las 22:47 +0200, Andre Klapper escribió: On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 12:50 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Regarding gnome-tweak-tool, is it able to enable settings system-wide? Or, is that feature even planned for the future? https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTweakTool andre Maybe

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-17 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi; On 17 April 2011 23:31, Pacho Ramos pa...@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es wrote: El dom, 17-04-2011 a las 22:47 +0200, Andre Klapper escribió: On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 12:50 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Regarding gnome-tweak-tool, is it able to enable settings system-wide? Or, is that feature

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 05:17 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre a écrit : Other people want it because suspend doesn't work on their hardware. Adding a configuration option is just putting wallpaper over the cracked wall; the real solution is to fix suspend. I’m sorry but I don’t buy this. Suspend

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-16 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Am Sonntag, den 17.04.2011, 00:11 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 05:17 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre a écrit : Other people want it because suspend doesn't work on their hardware. Adding a configuration option is just putting wallpaper over the cracked wall; the

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-16 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 05:17 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre a écrit : Other people want it because suspend doesn't work on their hardware. Adding a configuration option is just putting wallpaper over the cracked wall; the

Re: [Usability] gnome 3

2011-04-15 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 04/14/2011 01:04 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: There's a whiteboard for that: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/SwitchGuidance Feel free to discuss it there. Mmm... surprisingly, I fully agree with what's written in there. :-) Is the page still under definition, or can we consider it

gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Antoine Pézier
and it's about this new version of gnome 3. I was surprised: lots of changes, but I had little problem about all this new way of getting things done. Great work! However, the total lack of customization is totally unacceptable to me. So sorry guys, but after all these years, you lost me. I just wanted you

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 04:19:09PM +0200, Antoine Pézier wrote: Today, I'm writing to you for the first time and it's about this new version of gnome 3. I was surprised: lots of changes, but I had little problem about all this new way of getting things done. Great work! However, the total lack

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
to know them so that we can identify flaws in our designs. Today, I'm writing to you for the first time and it's about this new version of gnome 3. I was surprised: lots of changes, but I had little problem about all this new way of getting things done. Great work! However, the total lack

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Alberto Mardegan
I think this discussion is more pertinent in the usability ML; I'm adding that in CC and to the Reply-to. On 04/14/2011 11:24 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: Today, I'm writing to you for the first time and it's about this new version of gnome 3. I was surprised: lots of changes, but I

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
and it's about this new version of gnome 3. I was surprised: lots of changes, but I had little problem about all this new way of getting things done. Great work! However, the total lack of customization is totally unacceptable to me. So sorry guys, but after all these years, you

Re: [Usability] gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Bastien Nocera
version of gnome 3. I was surprised: lots of changes, but I had little problem about all this new way of getting things done. Great work! However, the total lack of customization is totally unacceptable to me. So sorry guys, but after all these years, you lost me

Re: [Usability] gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Mattias Eriksson
enjoy it :) This was one thing that surprised me with gnome 3, that all the fun customizations was gone by default unless you install the tweak-tool. For me it is ok, since I mostly run standard themes, but people like to be able to change themes, run a silly screensaver, change the fonts

Re: Jump Lists / Quick Lists / Dash Embellishments in GNOME 3

2011-03-04 Thread John Stowers
Having jumplists in the shell overlay was desired by pretty much everybody, though it was not specified whether they would be implemented as right-click menus on application icons, or something else. My takeaway from the session was that we would use a combination of static verbs

Re: Jump Lists / Quick Lists / Dash Embellishments in GNOME 3

2011-02-26 Thread John Stowers
My takeaway from the session was that we would use a combination of static verbs (specified in .desktop) and dynamic actions (specified using GApplication actions) to build the action list in an application's jumplist *and* in the application menu in the top panel of the shell. But after

Help spot localisation issues in GNOME 3

2011-02-24 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all, As GNOME 3 is fast approaching we want to make sure it offers a pleasant experience, whatever your locale. And of course we can notice some issues, but you have so much more experience that it would be a shame not to ask you. If you're already running GNOME 3, great! If you're

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 08:56 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Dave Neary wrote: In defense of Sebastien, he has been proposing mock-ups, and no developers have been commenting on them there. ...where by developers I mean designers. I don't think one needs to be a designer to see that there were

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-10 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, I agree (as is clear in the report) that the design is coming at the problem in the wrong way. It seems to be the old style there are lots of useful features available in the back-end tools, we should have an UI for them school of thought. But that's not the point. The point is that when

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-10 Thread Gendre Sebastien
Le jeudi 10 février 2011 à 09:42 +, Bastien Nocera a écrit : On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 08:56 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Dave Neary wrote: In defense of Sebastien, he has been proposing mock-ups, and no developers have been commenting on them there. ...where by developers I mean

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-10 Thread Gendre Sebastien
Le jeudi 10 février 2011 à 00:04 +, Bastien Nocera a écrit : On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 00:09 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Sandy Armstrong wrote: As Johannes said in his email, bugzilla is the right venue. In defense of Sebastien, he has been proposing mock-ups, and no developers

two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-09 Thread Gendre Sebastien
Hello everyone. Recently, I see you make 2 choice really criticized by users: - Remove the posibility to choose what the laptop do when the lid is closed (in power settings). - Remove the idle of the screen after some times with no activity (in screen settings) Although I do not understand the

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-09 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! As said before, power-users will have an option to change that if they want in gnome 3.0. But it won't be the default UI instead there will be a power-user utility. Regards, Johannes ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-09 Thread Gendre Sebastien
Le mercredi 09 février 2011 à 22:18 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit : Hi! As said before, power-users will have an option to change that if they want in gnome 3.0. But it won't be the default UI instead there will be a power-user utility. Regards, Johannes ok, but why? Why change these

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