You tell em, Vincent. I've been wanting to tell him No for years now.
That said, Ryan, are you proposing this as a replacement for GConf? That
wasn't particularly clear in your initial mail.
sri
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:
Le lundi 12 octobre 2009, à
Le mardi 13 octobre 2009 à 23:06 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
2009/10/13 Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org:
Ryan is a bit sad to not get feedback on his proposal, so a bit more
seriously: I think what we probably need is a migration plan. Should we
move all the code from gconf to dconf in
Le lundi 12 octobre 2009 à 11:27 -0400, Ryan Lortie a écrit :
I'd like to propose the inclusion of dconf for GNOME 2.30 in the desktop
release set.
This is great news! I'm all in favor of dconf. Do you have plans to move
to GNOME plateforme? IMO that really should replace gconf for GNOME3,
this
Dne 13.10.2009 22:42, Dan Winship napsal(a):
OMG ITS TEH WINDOWS REGISTRY!!!1!1II|! IF ANY APP WRITES A SINGLE BYTE
WRONG THEN ALL OF YOUR APPS WILL BREAK AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO LOG IN
ANY MORE
+1 :)
People who are not able to learn from history are doomed to live through
it again.
2009/10/14 Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com:
Dne 13.10.2009 22:42, Dan Winship napsal(a):
OMG ITS TEH WINDOWS REGISTRY!!!1!1II|! IF ANY APP WRITES A SINGLE BYTE
WRONG THEN ALL OF YOUR APPS WILL BREAK AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO LOG IN
ANY MORE
+1 :)
People who are not able to learn from history
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:24 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Dne 13.10.2009 22:42, Dan Winship napsal(a):
OMG ITS TEH WINDOWS REGISTRY!!!1!1II|! IF ANY APP WRITES A SINGLE BYTE
WRONG THEN ALL OF YOUR APPS WILL BREAK AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO LOG IN
ANY MORE
+1 :)
People who are not able to
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:24 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Dne 13.10.2009 22:42, Dan Winship napsal(a):
OMG ITS TEH WINDOWS REGISTRY!!!1!1II|! IF ANY APP WRITES A SINGLE BYTE
WRONG THEN ALL OF YOUR APPS WILL BREAK AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 23:06 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
2009/10/13 Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org:
Ryan is a bit sad to not get feedback on his proposal, so a bit more
seriously: I think what we probably need is a migration plan. Should we
move all the code from gconf to dconf in one
everyone asking for a plain text format (or even an XML format) for
*storage* should be forced to get only that on their machines, but
should also be barred from complaining why their boot process takes a
minute instead of 10 seconds. and no: having plain text storage and
adding a binary
On 10/14/2009 05:24 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Dne 13.10.2009 22:42, Dan Winship napsal(a):
OMG ITS TEH WINDOWS REGISTRY!!!1!1II|! IF ANY APP WRITES A SINGLE BYTE
WRONG THEN ALL OF YOUR APPS WILL BREAK AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO LOG IN
ANY MORE
+1 :)
People who are not able to learn from
Dne 14.10.2009 14:48, Dan Winship napsal(a):
Sorry, I thought the silliness made it clear that I was not actually
making that complaint,
Of course I knew that, that was just blatant hijacking of your post for
my nefarious purposes.
Matěj
--
http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber:
Dne 14.10.2009 12:46, Emmanuele Bassi napsal(a):
everyone asking for a plain text format (or even an XML format) for
*storage* should be forced to get only that on their machines, but
should also be barred from complaining why their boot process takes a
minute instead of 10 seconds. and no:
2009/10/13 Javier Jardón javierjc1...@gmail.com:
I've already created a page to track the progress and as a central
place to get info and examples about the migration to dconf/gsettings
Is there a migration guide somewhere? I suspect a lot of heavy grunt
of the conversion could be written using
It sounds like the backend for GSettings is somewhat pluggagle, at
least on a per-platform basis. Can we make this configurable by the
distro people at compile-time or runtime?
Here's my thinking:
1) People may not like whatever storage mechanism is offered by dconf,
so options may be good.
2)
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:26:56AM -0400, Martin Meyer wrote:
It sounds like the backend for GSettings is somewhat pluggagle, at
least on a per-platform basis. Can we make this configurable by the
distro people at compile-time or runtime?
Here's my thinking:
Let me add my thinking. The
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
everyone asking for a plain text format (or even an XML format) for
*storage* should be forced to get only that on their machines, but
should also be barred from complaining why their boot process takes a
minute instead of 10 seconds.
- FS are usually implemented very carefully. They tend to be part of
kernel. On the other hand desktop applications are designed much more
'speedy'. Sometimes application hangs (much more frequent then kernel
locks IMHO), sometimes it crashes.
Desktop application software mostly sucks. I
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Sorry if I not made it clear - I'm against putting everything in binary
which does not mean that binary format is ultimately evil. Probably XML
is not the easiest format to parse.
I am still a bit 'scared' by idea of binary format unless it is
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Take 20,000 distro Gnome users, what percentage of them do you think have
ever hand edited their configuration, what percentage do you think have
ever used things like gconftool. For that matter what percentage of
normal users do you think
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:54 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Take 20,000 distro Gnome users, what percentage of them do you think have
ever hand edited their configuration, what percentage do you think have
ever used things like gconftool. For
2009/10/14 Xavier Claessens xclae...@gmail.com:
Le lundi 12 octobre 2009 à 11:27 -0400, Ryan Lortie a écrit :
I'd like to propose the inclusion of dconf for GNOME 2.30 in the desktop
release set.
This is great news! I'm all in favor of dconf. Do you have plans to move
to GNOME plateforme?
2009/10/14 Alex Launi alex.la...@gmail.com:
How far away are mono/python bindings? Can I use raw dbus is there are not
client helper libraries?
There is no work on that regard so far. GSettings will eventually be
proposed for inclusion in GLib so any glib/gobject binding should
include that
2009/10/14 Martin Meyer elreydet...@gmail.com:
It sounds like the backend for GSettings is somewhat pluggagle, at
least on a per-platform basis. Can we make this configurable by the
distro people at compile-time or runtime?
Exactly, in fact, there is already a windows registry backend
2009/10/12 Sriram Ramkrishna sriram.ramkris...@gmail.com:
You tell em, Vincent. I've been wanting to tell him No for years now.
That said, Ryan, are you proposing this as a replacement for GConf? That
wasn't particularly clear in your initial mail.
dconf is being proposed as a replacement
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:25 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:54 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Take 20,000 distro Gnome users, what percentage of them do you think have
ever hand edited their configuration, what
2009/10/14 Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Take 20,000 distro Gnome users, what percentage of them do you think have
ever hand edited their configuration, what percentage do you think have
ever used things like gconftool. For that matter what
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:48 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:25 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:54 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Take 20,000 distro Gnome users, what percentage of them do you
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:51 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/10/14 Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Take 20,000 distro Gnome users, what percentage of them do you think have
ever hand edited their configuration, what percentage do you think
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
Large deployments shouldn't mess with the local users' configuration.
Probably specialized backends for GSettings like an APOC or plain LDAP
one would be a much better approach to manage large deployments.
Maybe; I am
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:59 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote:
The important thing is the ability of an admin to easily copy a branch
of config settings. Thats trivial in gconf and I use it for copying
settings between machines (cp ~/.gconf/blah)
I disagree that it's trivial with cp. It's only
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:39 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/10/14 Xavier Claessens xclae...@gmail.com:
Le lundi 12 octobre 2009 à 11:27 -0400, Ryan Lortie a écrit :
I'd like to propose the inclusion of dconf for GNOME 2.30 in the desktop
release set.
This is great news! I'm all in favor
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 19:17 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
e-d-s stores the data in GConf, so it needs to be migrated indeed. Also,
even though the desktop-wide settings might be obsoleted
(/desktop/GNOME, for instance), apps still need their /apps/$app
configuration tree to be migrated, since
Alberto == Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org writes:
Alberto Is there a need to convert user settings? I mean, we're talking
Alberto about GNOME 3.0 here, most sensible data is stored via
Alberto evolution-data-server, tracker, or other custom storage so the
Alberto only difference would be
Hi all,
Nautilus-Actions has just been branched for Gnome 2.28.
Development for stable release may continue on gnome-2-28 branch.
Development for next release will continue on master.
Regards
Pierre
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On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 18:24 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 19:17 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
e-d-s stores the data in GConf, so it needs to be migrated indeed. Also,
even though the desktop-wide settings might be obsoleted
(/desktop/GNOME, for instance), apps still need
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:11 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote:
I would rephrase this as valac as a build dependency for gnome
as valac is like yacc/bison/flex in that there is no runtime dependency
and only people developing
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