Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/3/11 Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote: Il giorno mer, 10/03/2010 alle 16.50 -0600, Cody Russell ha scritto: Just wanted to post on the lists and see if people have thoughts on this, otherwise I'm probably

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Tomas Bzatek
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:16 +0100, Christian Dywan wrote: Using the mouse wheel that way in a web browser or text editor is a very convenient feature. It is much quicker than having to move the pointer to one of the sides only to switch tabs. Please don't break it just because you never used

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hi! :), On mié, 2010-03-10 at 16:50 -0600, Cody Russell wrote: So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse wheel. Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really seems like a terrible feature and one that may be detrimental to usability. I may

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Garnacho carl...@gnome.org wrote: Hi! :), On mié, 2010-03-10 at 16:50 -0600, Cody Russell wrote: So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse wheel.  Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really seems like a

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Cody Russell
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:16 +0100, Christian Dywan wrote: Using the mouse wheel that way in a web browser or text editor is a very convenient feature. It is much quicker than having to move the pointer to one of the sides only to switch tabs. Please don't break it just because you never used

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Cody Russell
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 09:20 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: If there ends up being a bug report about this, please share the bug number. And hopefully we can get some usability nerds involved in this decision. I agree with Sandy here, I would leave this decision up to the usability guys.

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 07:27 -0600, Cody Russell wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 09:20 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: If there ends up being a bug report about this, please share the bug number. And hopefully we can get some usability nerds involved in this decision. I agree with Sandy

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Vinicius Depizzol
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01, Carlos Garnacho carl...@gnome.org wrote: I may understand not all notebooks need this feature. Perhaps we could have a MDI mode in GtkNotebook, so features such as mouse wheel scrolling and tab switching on alt+number are effective on these? (The latter isn't

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Gustavo Carneiro
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Frederic Crozat fcro...@mandriva.comwrote: Le 12/01/2010 18:50, Frederic Crozat a écrit : Hi everyone, just a quick reminder about deprecation flags and tarball release : please avoid at all cost to hardcode deprecation flags in compilation flags, when a

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/3/11 Vinicius Depizzol vdepiz...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01, Carlos Garnacho carl...@gnome.org wrote: I may understand not all notebooks need this feature. Perhaps we could have a MDI mode in GtkNotebook, so features such as mouse wheel scrolling and tab switching on

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Actually, this reminds me of an issue I had while trying to fix tabs in the Mac OS X/Quartz engine. Basically, on MDI, the Mac preference tab mode, is pretty weird, that's why Safari and Firefox have their own drawn tabs instead of the typical tabs in a preference dialog. If we had a setting

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le 11/03/2010 14:50, Gustavo Carneiro a écrit : On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Frederic Crozat fcro...@mandriva.com mailto:fcro...@mandriva.com wrote: Le 12/01/2010 18:50, Frederic Crozat a écrit : Hi everyone, just a quick reminder about deprecation flags and tarball

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Gustavo Carneiro
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Frederic Crozat fcro...@mandriva.comwrote: Le 11/03/2010 14:50, Gustavo Carneiro a écrit : On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Frederic Crozat fcro...@mandriva.com mailto:fcro...@mandriva.com wrote: Le 12/01/2010 18:50, Frederic Crozat a écrit :

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Am Donnerstag, den 11.03.2010, 14:20 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: Now that I think about it, I think the notebook needs a review from a wider perspective. We are trying to make this class one-size-fits-all-cases. We already discussed about simplifying this widget a bit (we already

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/3/11 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de: Hi! Am Donnerstag, den 11.03.2010, 14:20 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: Now that I think about it, I think the notebook needs a review from a wider perspective. We are trying to make this class one-size-fits-all-cases. We already discussed about

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 19:05 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Since I'm the release team member taking care of 2.29.92 release, I'm going to rant again against modules which are hardcoding deprecation flags in their configure.in (or Makefile.am), even when building from tarballs. Please, avoid

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Braden McDaniel
On 3/11/10 11:09 AM, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 19:05 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Since I'm the release team member taking care of 2.29.92 release, I'm going to rant again against modules which are hardcoding deprecation flags in their configure.in (or Makefile.am), even

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Sam Thursfield
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org wrote: So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse wheel.  Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really seems like a terrible feature and one that may be detrimental to usability.