Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Paolo Borelli
Jeff Waugh wrote: More and more, I'm getting the balance of these two: The icons look good, but the colours are dull (which is somewhat on purpose, because we don't want to overwhelm the user, but they tend to come across very brown [1]). yup, brown is the same comment I got... after asking it

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Samuel Abels
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 21:45 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote: I certainly support a new default widget theme (the popular candidates look nice to me, no favoritism there), but please, please please don't mess with the icon theme! Fully agreed. The default wm is not good (difficult to click

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Dave Ahlswede
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:11 +0100, Paolo Borelli wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: More and more, I'm getting the balance of these two: The icons look good, but the colours are dull (which is somewhat on purpose, because we don't want to overwhelm the user, but they tend to come across very brown

Re: Request for breakage in gnome-panel

2005-02-15 Thread Larry W. Virden
I'm baffled why Run as is a problem to anyone but the balance is hard and the more folks can go and talk to users/potential users the better. Do note that Run as isn't an issue for me - it is the greater issue of removing features in the future that some individual doesn't see a need for,

Re: Gnome optimizations and some numbers

2005-02-15 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le lundi 14 fvrier 2005 23:29 -0500, William Lovaton a crit : I straced some programs in both versions of Gnome and counted the number of calls to the open() syscall. I got interesting results: - gedit-2.8: 2700 - gedit-2.9: 780 Just as a data point, under FC3, gedit 2.8.1 does 3213 open()

Re: moving windows above the top panel

2005-02-15 Thread Calum Benson
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 23:24, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote: I hope the Gnome HIG at least is updated to include instructions about window sizes for common resolutions. The draft version does suggest that the default size of a window should be no larger than 480 pixels wide and 640 pixels high and

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Pat Suwalski
Gabriel Bauman wrote: Most folks I know install GNOME, shudder, then install Bluecurve and never look back. Is it a Red Hat licensing issue perhaps? I would say it's a little more than that. Bluecurve is what identifies RedHat. I don't think that it would be appropriate to use it, legally

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Everaldo Canuto
Hey guys, Remember that not all user are technician and normal end users like colors. The KDE themes and icons is very nice, I prefer GNOME but normal users like a my girlfriend, my sister and my friends like colors. Ok... somebody say me hey install another theme, gnome-look theres a lot of

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Przemysław Sowa
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:00 -0800, Gabriel Bauman wrote: Most folks I know install GNOME, shudder, then install Bluecurve and never look back. Most folks I know remove GNOME and switch to KDE because they don't find GNOME attractive with Bluecurve as default theme on Fedora or Red Hat. I think

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Daniel Borgmann
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 12:13 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote: Gabriel Bauman wrote: Most folks I know install GNOME, shudder, then install Bluecurve and never look back. Is it a Red Hat licensing issue perhaps? I would say it's a little more than that. Bluecurve is what identifies RedHat. I don't

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 19:52 +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote: Well, did you take a look at Clearlooks Just in case anyone wants a look at this engine and uses Debian, I've got packages in http://burtonini.com/debian, specifically:

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Alan Horkan
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Dave Ahlswede wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:31:43 -0500 From: Dave Ahlswede [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Exciting GNOME? On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:11 +0100, Paolo Borelli wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: More and more, I'm getting the

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Everaldo Canuto
This CleanLooks is nice but I dont like menus... I think that menu need to be same aspect at tool bar like original BlueCurve. Everaldo. Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 19:52 +0100, Daniel Borgmann escreveu: On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 12:13 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote: Gabriel Bauman wrote: Most folks I know

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Everaldo Canuto
ClearLooks is really nice but now we need a more atractive icon set. Everaldo. Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 17:53 -0200, Everaldo Canuto escreveu: This CleanLooks is nice but I dont like menus... I think that menu need to be same aspect at tool bar like original BlueCurve. Everaldo. Em Ter,

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 18:06 -0200, Everaldo Canuto wrote: ClearLooks is really nice but now we need a more atractive icon set. Are they icons really that bad? Is it just the folders that most people find boring? Most the icons seem pretty nice to me. The biggest problem I see with the icons

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread jonner . 1979682
--- Sean Middleditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are they icons really that bad? Is it just the folders that most people find boring? Most the icons seem pretty nice to me. I think the GNOME Icons are on the whole really good, and I'd strongly resist moving to some gooey kde-like icon theme. I do

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Everaldo Canuto
Hi, Ok... the icons are not ugly but need more colors, I say one more time, the end users like colors and because this some users like Kde Icons. End users dont like gray desktop and for a moment (except for Fedora users) the G of GNOME is a Gray. Everaldo. Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 20:27 +,

Gnome Panel improvements

2005-02-15 Thread Przemysław Sowa
After playing with Gnome 2.9.91 I've found new panel transparency really exciting. But some things need a little bit love. For example icons in the notification area looks ugly as they ignore panel background settings. Also I'd love to see workspace switcher supporting transparency. Last but not

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Michaël Arnauts
I think the new etiquette icon theme is quite attractive... It's still clean like the default Gnome one, but it has a refreshing new look... Especially the mime-types... I love it... http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19853 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:06:17 -0200, Everaldo Canuto

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Gabriel Bauman
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 19:52 +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote: Well, did you take a look at Clearlooks? Someone mentioned it at the Wiki, I tried it and it totally blew me away! Wow. I have a new default theme. The only issue I have with it so far is a common one with most GTK engines: menu bars

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Rodney Dawes
This isn't the place to start a KDE/GNOME flamewar. End users is very general. Everyone likes something different. The current desktop trendiness is to be flashy with colors and stuff. OS X doesn't really have that much color. It's just a very well done interface. Making things shiny with a

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Everaldo Canuto
I am not intent to start a flamewar... I really like to see GNOME with a better look but I think that the hackers know what change themes and is very important that default theme is designed to end-users like Windows XP and KDE 3.3. No flames please... I am a GNOME user. :) I dont like when I

Re: Exciting GNOME?

2005-02-15 Thread Everaldo Canuto
Ok. Em Ter, 2005-02-15 s 13:39 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru escreveu: Look at this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5358 A nice icon theme. Colors and Life Sorry, but this is just not gnome. What we see in this icon theme is cartoonish-style icons that have absolutely no

Re: Gnome Panel improvements

2005-02-15 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 21:53 +0100, Przemysaw Sowa wrote: After playing with Gnome 2.9.91 I've found new panel transparency really exciting. But some things need a little bit love. For example icons in the notification area looks ugly as they ignore panel background settings. Also I'd love to