Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Jamie McCracken
Jamie McCracken wrote: Iain * wrote: On 7/15/06, Chipzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beagle Quite important IMO, but we have tracker as a replacement. I'm not holding my breath for tracker really...Call it a hunch, or female intuition or something... Well I suggest you try it rather than

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Chipzz
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes wrote: On 7/15/06, Iain * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diva Same as monodevelop. Umm, no, its a video editor...same as pitivi. I believe he was making a reference to the comment he made for monodevelop. Indeed. Do we really need an

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Ghee, On jeu, 2006-07-13 at 16:08 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 14:16 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: And the big question: We currently allow desktop modules to depend on the pygtk bindings, but no others. Should we extend that to include

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, I'm glad to see the flamewar already started ;-) On mar, 2006-07-11 at 14:16 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: So, to start of the discussion, the proposed modules AFAIR are: * orca (as a replacement to gnopernicus) Yes * alacarte It's better than the current menu editor. I guess we'll

Re: Mono/GTK#/Tomboy

2006-07-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Alex, On sam, 2006-07-15 at 18:10 -0700, Alex Graveley wrote: Hi Murray, As I hinted at back in April[1], I don't think Tomboy is a blanket replacement for sticky notes. As I said, into the abyss, a first-run wizard for importing existing sticky notes makes more sense. I'm somewhat

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Iain *
Ubuntu, Gentoo, and the other distros should come with a music editor, a video editor, and everything else. The discussion here I believe is what should be made part of the basic gnome distribution, and I think that music/video editors might not qualify. That's exactly what I meant.

New pessulus co-maintainer

2006-07-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, At GUADEC, Rob Bradford proposed to help maintaining pessulus and I'm happy to give him this burden^Wopportunity. Please welcome him, hug him, etc. He will try to fix all my bugs and add some cool features. I'll continue to introduce bugs in the code to keep him active for some time. Rob, in

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Hubert Figuiere
Iain * iaingnome at gmail.com writes: Why do we feel we are able to bless a terminal program and a text editor and a clock, but unable to do the same to a video editor or an audio editor? There is a huge difference between essential programs (editor, terminal) and specific applications (photo

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Calum Benson
On 15 Jul 2006, at 23:43, Iain * wrote: On 7/15/06, Chipzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or a music editor??? Well, it hasn't harmed apple in any way. FWIW, GarageBand isn't part of OSX though... granted it currently ships with all new Macs, but if you go out and buy OSX off the shelf, you

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Calum Benson
On 16 Jul 2006, at 09:36, Jeroen Zwartepoorte wrote: On 7/15/06, Chipzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mono: F-spot Image viewer, really non-essential. Come on, Eye of Gnome is an image viewer. F-Spot is a photo management application (like iPhoto). Try asking Mac users if iPhoto is

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Lluis Sanchez
That's exactly what I meant. Windows starting to be shipped (well, starting...) with everything but the kitchen sink, and I hate that too. I don't even *have* a camera, why would I need a video editor??? The question that I'm asking, and which we should be asking ourselves is, does gnome

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Iain *
On 7/16/06, Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain * iaingnome at gmail.com writes: Why do we feel we are able to bless a terminal program and a text editor and a clock, but unable to do the same to a video editor or an audio editor? There is a huge difference between essential

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Calum Benson
On 16 Jul 2006, at 17:57, Lluis Sanchez wrote: It's not so important which applications do gnome include, since distros can take this decision, depending on the specific target of the distro. Up to a point... although a distro's choice of application is also somewhat influenced by

focus! (was Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al)

2006-07-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
Iain * wrote: Really? depends on your context... For some people a terminal and text editor are completely worthless, but take away photo management Once again, who are we targetting with the desktop. Apple know who they're targetting, which is probably why text editor and terminal

Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al

2006-07-16 Thread Iain *
On 7/16/06, Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW what about providing the Office suite first? Because Gnome penetration is first into large business [1] deployment, and and Office suite is more likely to hit that target. We still don't, but distribution vendors do. I have no problem

Ideas for Integrating The Document-Oriented Web into GNOME

2006-07-16 Thread Alex Jones
Try disabling the http URI handler for GNOME. gconf:///desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled When you click a link to a PNG image, EOG starts up. Click a link to an M3U file, and Totem starts up. What happens, is that GNOME-VFS determines the MIME-type of the target file with a HTTP HEAD

Re: Ideas for Integrating The Document-Oriented Web into GNOME

2006-07-16 Thread Steve Frécinaux
Alex Jones wrote: Try disabling the http URI handler for GNOME. gconf:///desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled [...] preferred application with that URI. I didn't know that this behaviour existed right now. Thank you for the hint ;-) 2. A simple web page viewer, sans-location entry.

Re: Wiki changes [Was: Personas]

2006-07-16 Thread James Henstridge
On 16/07/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you tell me how? The little feed icon's gone, and I couldn't find an rss action. Still seems available as here: http://live.gnome.org/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc There is a comment at the top of that page explaining the various options you

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-16 Thread Jason D. Clinton
Replying from off-list, pardon the break. At the encouragement of various important parties on #gnome-hackers, I am posting a copy of this from my blog in an effort to help focus the Pro/Con-Mono argument. I am not taking any side. This is only a summary. So, I spent two hours reading every email

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-16 Thread David Nielsen
søn, 16 07 2006 kl. 23:33 -0500, skrev Jason D. Clinton: While you provided a fine run down of arguments, I believe you forgot a vital one, Mono can be optimized, we can cut down ressource consumption, we can indeed do better - we cannot however make C development as fast development in C#, nor