Naba Kumar wrote:
Hi guys, [starting a new thread]
[...]
The website is kind of outdated, but I believe we can revive it and make
some real effort this time. A mailing list was also setup for the group
called gnome-devtools(@)gnome.org. I guess it is still used by some
people (e.g. devhelp).
Let's try this again.
I'd like to start the discussion on getting NetworkManager--more
explicitly, its GNOME-based applet, nm-applet--into GNOME 2.18.
Tell me about NetworkManager without using big words.
NetworkManager is the future of Linux networking. Red Hat, SUSE, and
others have
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 11:40 -0400, Robert Love wrote:
Let's try this again.
I'd like to start the discussion on getting NetworkManager--more
explicitly, its GNOME-based applet, nm-applet--into GNOME 2.18.
Tell me about NetworkManager without using big words.
NetworkManager is the
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 23:00 -0400, Dan Winship wrote:
Toby Smithe wrote:
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 01:33 +0200, Marco Cabizza wrote:
So, can the metacity compositor link against something else - i.e. a
compiz backend? - or is it just stalled ?
Well, I know nothing of how it currently
On 10/3/06, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:18 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote:
I had a feeling this would be the case, and I doubted inclusion as soon
as I sent off the e-mail. I don't want a Compiz clone, so I probably
think that doing something new is the better
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:25 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
It would be nice if you could back up these claims with examples of
such missing details. Or even better, file bugs so we can get them
fixed. There is a component for compiz in the freedesktop.org
bugzilla:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:34 -0700, Rob Adams wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:25 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
It would be nice if you could back up these claims with examples of
such missing details. Or even better, file bugs so we can get them
fixed. There is a component for compiz in
quote who=Robert Love
Right now both the applet and daemon live in GNOME CVS and are released
together.
(I don't think it's important for them to be split, unless you forsee the
combination having an impact on adherence to the GNOME release schedule.)
I think the crucial thing we need to do
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:44 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Robert Love
Right now both the applet and daemon live in GNOME CVS and are released
together.
(I don't think it's important for them to be split, unless you forsee the
combination having an impact on adherence to the GNOME
On 10/3/06, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why bother when both the GNOME and KDE projects already have excellent
window managers? I don't understand this idea of writing a whole new
window manager just to add eye candy. There's nothing about compositing
that requires a complete rewrite
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 12:30 -0400, Robert Love wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 11:24 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
Are you then proposing three separate tarball releases?
Would you then split NM into three separate CVS modules?
Where would each of those modules live? (I can't imagine
KDE
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 00:36 +0200, Daniel Borgmann wrote:
On 10/3/06, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Realistically, compiz is unlikely
ever to be accepted by either project, because it's a chimera. So why
are we dumping so much effort into it?
Why is it a chimera, because the GNOME
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 00:36 +0200, Daniel Borgmann wrote:
Why is it a chimera, because the GNOME dependent modules are optional?
That makes no sense to me. I rather see this as Compiz' biggest
strength, since it encourages code sharing and cooperation (as well as
experimentation). Is there
quote who=Daniel Borgmann
Is there really any objective reason why Compiz shouldn't be at least
considered as a potential successor to Metacity?
Because it does not benefit from a long history of development, testing and
fixes for crucial window management behaviour, and gives everyone
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:34 -0700, Rob Adams wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:25 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
It would be nice if you could back up these claims with examples of
such missing details. Or even better, file bugs so we can get them
fixed. There is a component for compiz in
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:48 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 00:36 +0200, Daniel Borgmann wrote:
On 10/3/06, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Realistically, compiz is unlikely
ever to be accepted by either project, because it's a chimera. So why
are we dumping so
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 18:53 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Daniel Borgmann
Is there really any objective reason why Compiz shouldn't be at least
considered as a potential successor to Metacity?
Because it does not benefit from a long history of development, testing and
fixes for
This is very much not a detail, but the last time I tried compiz (which
was on ubuntu dapper), it lacked *ALL* of the keybindings to maximize,
minimize, etc windows. Certainly not a minor detail.
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, [UTF-8] Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
On 10/3/06, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 18:23 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:44 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Robert Love
Right now both the applet and daemon live in GNOME CVS and are released
together.
(I don't think it's important for them to be split, unless you
Rob Adams wrote:
Why bother when both the GNOME and KDE projects already have excellent
window managers? I don't understand this idea of writing a whole new
window manager just to add eye candy. There's nothing about compositing
that requires a complete rewrite of the window manager. The
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 18:33 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote:
Does compiz work without a 3D card? If not it's worthless as anything
but a power user addon.
Very few desktop cards don't have 3D capabilities, but yes its a
possible issue. There are ways to address it like better software
fallbacks
Em Qua, 2006-10-04 às 01:29 +0200, Chipzz escreveu:
This is very much not a detail, but the last time I tried compiz (which
was on ubuntu dapper), it lacked *ALL* of the keybindings to maximize,
minimize, etc windows. Certainly not a minor detail.
It's quite possible that you tried an early
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 19:54 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=JP Rosevear
I'm not sure how lisp like configuration equates with something that
exposes all its settings in gconf and has a dbus plugin for remote
control. gnome-xgl is a settings gui that is fairly generic (except for
JP Rosevear wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 18:33 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote:
Does compiz work without a 3D card? If not it's worthless as anything
but a power user addon.
Very few desktop cards don't have 3D capabilities,
More than you think: OLPC, thin clients, old machines, etc. Maybe not
Ciao,
Il giorno mar, 03/10/2006 alle 18.33 -0500, Travis Watkins ha scritto:
Does compiz work without a 3D card? If not it's worthless as anything
but a power user addon.
This is exactly something I was thinking of a couple hours ago. Maybe
compiz should be able to work EVEN WITHOUT
On 10/3/06, Travis Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does compiz work without a 3D card? If not it's worthless as anything
but a power user addon.
This is orthogonal to the compiz vs. metacity discussion. Both
compositors have exactly the same requirements to the underlying stack
(X.org and
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 21:30 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
JP Rosevear wrote:
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 18:33 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote:
Does compiz work without a 3D card? If not it's worthless as anything
but a power user addon.
Very few desktop cards don't have 3D capabilities,
On 10/3/06, Kristian Høgsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wether or not we want a composited desktop is a different topic, but I
think the general consensus is that we do, as long as there's an
option to fall back to a legacy desktop (that is, a non-composited
desktop).
So does this mean support
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