Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
* Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.24 desktop. * Purpose: Empathy [1] consists of a rich set of reusable instant messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main goal is to permit desktop integration by

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Xavier Claessens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.24 desktop. * Adoption: It is packaged at least for debian, ubuntu, mandriva, gentoo and fedora. There is patches for Totem and nautilus-send-to [2] to make use of

Re: Session Management in 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 25 mars 2008, à 04:01 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:37 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lucas, Really like your new dbus interfaces, especially differentiate logout and shutdown. ;-) Is it possible to add a extra task to improve logout

Re: Session Management in 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 24 mars 2008, à 21:06 -0400, Thomas Thurman a écrit : Ysgrifennodd Lucas Rocha: Vincent Untz and I will be working on making the new code shine for 2.24. Thanks for all the work you're doing on this. However, some simple changes are necessary on some basic components that run

Re: Session Management in 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hi Thomas, 2008/3/25, Thomas Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ysgrifennodd Lucas Rocha: Vincent Untz and I will be working on making the new code shine for 2.24. Thanks for all the work you're doing on this. However, some simple changes are necessary on some basic components that run

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 12:02 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : * GNOME-ness: The community reports bugs in GNOME bugzilla and attach patches, I review and commit in GNOME's SVN. GNOME translation teams are already translating empathy. The UI is build with GNOME spirit in mind, empathy

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, Let me add my +1 for empathy in GNOME 2.24 :D Bon courage ! Étienne. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Travis Watkins
Did anything ever happen with the license issues for the libraries? They should be LGPL. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 07:01 -0500, Travis Watkins a écrit : Did anything ever happen with the license issues for the libraries? They should be LGPL. Nothing changed. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:50 +0100, Xavier Claessens wrote: libmissioncontrol = 4.53 libmissioncontrol is LGPLv2 only. This is a problem as it prevent Gnome to ever move to (L)GPLv3. That's a -1 solely because of that. Hub ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread daniel g. siegel
i like empathy ;) it still has some things, which should get cleaned up in the user interface (e.g. group sorting, buddy icon preview, ...) but still i would love to see it in GNOME 2.24. +1 a very interesting idea is to integrate the buddy icon somehow with cheese, so that a user can set his

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 16:30 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit : Telepathy and Empathy look very promising, but Telepathy doesn't support buddy lists for IRC (and SIP) yet. Not having buddy lists for IRC would be a major regression for my use patterns of IRC. So personally I don't consider

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 09:26 -0400, Hubert Figuiere a écrit : On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:50 +0100, Xavier Claessens wrote: libmissioncontrol = 4.53 libmissioncontrol is LGPLv2 only. This is a problem as it prevent Gnome to ever move to (L)GPLv3. That's a -1 solely because of that. This

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 15:45 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: 2008/3/25, Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mathias, Telepathy and Empathy look very promising, but Telepathy doesn't support buddy lists for IRC (and SIP) yet. Not having buddy lists for

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Herzberg
Hi, Are passwords still stored in unencrypted files? That's also a -1. Regards, Sven Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 11:50 +0100 schrieb Xavier Claessens: * Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.24 desktop. * Purpose: Empathy [1] consists of a rich set of reusable instant messaging widgets,

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 17:27 +0100, Sven Herzberg a écrit : Hi, Are passwords still stored in unencrypted files? That's also a -1. Regards, Sven Sadly Empathy still put password in gconf. That will change when we'll replace MC. If new MC isn't ready in time I'll try to hack a bit MC to

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 17:20 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit : Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 15:45 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: 2008/3/25, Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mathias, Telepathy and Empathy look very promising, but Telepathy doesn't support

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi, 2008/3/25 Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 16:51 +0100 schrieb Xavier Claessens: Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 16:30 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit : Telepathy and Empathy look very promising, but Telepathy doesn't support buddy lists for IRC (and

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 18:44 +0200 schrieb Felipe Contreras: Pidgin is not part of GNOME, neither is XChat. So currently there's no IM/chat solution for GNOME. Yes, GNOME lacks an __official__ IM/chat solution. So far that hole has been filled by Pidgin and XChat. I definitely do

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 18:28 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: IMHO it would be stupid for current IRC users to replace their current IRC application with Empathy at this moment. Its IRC support just is not ready yet. This can be fixed - of course. Why would the fact that it _could_ do

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 17:40 +0100 schrieb Xavier Claessens: Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 17:20 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit : Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 15:45 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: 2008/3/25, Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mathias,

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:34 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: IMHO it would be stupid for current IRC users to replace their current IRC application with Empathy at this moment. Its IRC support just is not ready yet. This can be fixed - of course. Why would the fact that it _could_ do IRC,

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/3/25, Mathias Hasselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: By making Empathy an official GNOME component, we tell all our users, that Pidgin is legacy and that they should switch to our superior solution. As good engineers we would have integrated Pidgin, if our solution wouldn't be much superior. I

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Bestel
On mar, 2008-03-25 at 17:15 +0100, Xavier Claessens wrote: Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 09:26 -0400, Hubert Figuiere a écrit : On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:50 +0100, Xavier Claessens wrote: libmissioncontrol = 4.53 libmissioncontrol is LGPLv2 only. This is a problem as it prevent Gnome to

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 19:21 +0100, Xavier Bestel a écrit : On mar, 2008-03-25 at 17:15 +0100, Xavier Claessens wrote: Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 09:26 -0400, Hubert Figuiere a écrit : On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:50 +0100, Xavier Claessens wrote: libmissioncontrol = 4.53

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2008, 17:53 + schrieb Ross Burton: On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:34 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: IMHO it would be stupid for current IRC users to replace their current IRC application with Empathy at this moment. Its IRC support just is not ready yet. This can

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 20:48 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: Just from Empathy, or also Telepathy? What's the rationale behind this decision? Why should we waste resources for such a crippled IM framework on our machines? I have to admit that I went from ±0 to -2 during this discussion.

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le mardi 25 mars 2008 à 19:51 +, Ross Burton a écrit : On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 20:48 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: Just from Empathy, or also Telepathy? What's the rationale behind this decision? Why should we waste resources for such a crippled IM framework on our machines? I

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 09:26 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: libmissioncontrol is LGPLv2 only. This is a problem as it prevent Gnome to ever move to (L)GPLv3. So what? LGPLv2 is Free Software. That is sufficient in our view. Even more so because we are talking about the LGPL here. There is

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-25 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:11 +1100, Andrew Cowie wrote: On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 09:26 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: libmissioncontrol is LGPLv2 only. This is a problem as it prevent Gnome to ever move to (L)GPLv3. So what? LGPLv2 is Free Software. That is sufficient in our view. Even more