Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Philip Withnall
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 22:01 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 19:09 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: I think it's time that we move away from using three periods (...) to represent the ellipsis and instead use the Unicode character (…). We've been trying to do this on the Unity

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Philip Withnall
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 19:09 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: I think it's time that we move away from using three periods (...) to represent the ellipsis and instead use the Unicode character (…). This style has already been adopted by Microsoft [1] and Apple [2]. [1]

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread David King
On 2012-12-04 09:08, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 22:01 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 19:09 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: I think it's time that we move away from using three periods (...) to represent the ellipsis and instead use the

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On the other hand, I think it's less clear whether we should change command line output as the single Unicode ellipsis takes up significantly less space than three periods in a monospace font. Please stick with ASCII for

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Philip Withnall
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 09:40 +, David King wrote: On 2012-12-04 09:08, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 22:01 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 19:09 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: I think it's time that we move away from using three periods

Re: questioning gnome modulesets

2012-12-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
Hey Jeremy, I wouldn't try to read too much meaning into the fine distinctions between various modulesets. As a first approximation, they are a means for the release team to organize the release. We could certainly move epiphany to meta-gnome-apps-tested, but it wouldn't make any difference in

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
While we are talking about better use of Unicode, I've recently spent some time improving the time rendering in a few prominent places, by using the 'ratio' character instead of plain ascii : - some screenshots of the difference can be seen in bug 689184 [1]. It might be a good idea to do this

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le lundi 03 décembre 2012 à 19:09 -0500, Jeremy Bicha a écrit : I think it's time that we move away from using three periods (...) to represent the ellipsis and instead use the Unicode character (…). This style has already been adopted by Microsoft [1] and Apple [2]. [1]

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 06:40 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: While we are talking about better use of Unicode, I've recently spent some time improving the time rendering in a few prominent places, by using the 'ratio' character instead of plain ascii : - some screenshots of the difference can be

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: Is this really the right thing to do. Even the Microsoft page uses the rather wishy-washy Consider using the ratio symbol, as if they're not quite sure this is a good idea. It does look nicer, but it's semantically wrong. A

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 4 December 2012 09:21, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: Is this really the right thing to do. Even the Microsoft page uses the rather wishy-washy Consider using the ratio symbol, as if they're not quite sure this is a good idea. It does look nicer, but it's semantically wrong. A time

Re: Fwd: Reminder: FOSDEM CrossDesktop DevRoom 2013 - Call for Talks

2012-12-04 Thread Brian Cameron
Christophe: If CrossDesktop DevRoom is THE place for cross-desktop entente, then why have I seen no discussion about this event on any FreeDesktop mail forum? I only notice GNOME mailing lists in the current cc:list, or am I missing something? What FreeDesktop forum is even supposed to be

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread meg ford
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.ukwrote: On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 09:51 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: Is this really the right thing to do. Even the Microsoft page uses the rather

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 09:51 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: Is this really the right thing to do. Even the Microsoft page uses the rather

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say its up to the translators of each locale to say what format is most appropriate for their language. Date and time formats are translatable for a reason... and, to finish that thought, therefore the