Re: Unifying the logout dialog, session management thoughts

2008-01-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:03 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: I don't think we need a new module. Dan and Lucas have worked on a new gnome-session with a dbus API. The dialog itself will be moved to gnome-session, since we'll be able to do what we want with the dbus API. So, in the short term would

Re: Unifying the logout dialog, session management thoughts

2008-01-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 09:43 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mercredi 09 janvier 2008, à 21:46 -0800, Ted Gould a écrit : On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:03 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: I don't think we need a new module. Dan and Lucas have worked on a new gnome-session with a dbus API. The dialog

Re: Session Management in 2.24

2008-03-27 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 12:04 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mardi 25 mars 2008, à 04:01 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:37 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to add a extra task to improve logout dialog GUI? The current dialog in new-gnome-session

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 18:19 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: JPEG loading with libjpeg is currently really slow (the benchmark being Photoshop, which is really goddamn fast for JPEGs). We could totally use some liboil/profiling ninjas to work on libjpeg to make it faster. Then, maybe

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-03-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 12:07 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: So, basically, no I don't see a way that GNOME Shell coexists with Compiz other than as two separate shells for the GNOME desktop. And I think that coexistence is part of the problem with GNOME Shell becoming the default GNOME interface.

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-03-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:23 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2009/3/30 Ted Gould t...@gould.cx: On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 12:07 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: So, basically, no I don't see a way that GNOME Shell coexists with Compiz other than as two separate shells for the GNOME desktop. And I think

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:31 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le jeudi 02 avril 2009, à 11:44 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : For developers local to the Boston area, I'm happy to take a visit to your sight to go over accessibility considerations and to discuss your new UI's with you from an

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 13:17 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: There's one obvious question related to those potential changes: what will happen to the old way of doing things? For example, will we still make the GNOME Panel available if, for some reason, people are not immediately happy with GNOME

Re: GlobalMenu Application for inclusion as a GNOME module

2009-09-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 09:44 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Sandy Armstrongsanfordarmstr...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming gnome-panel (and therefore panel applets) go away in GNOME 2.30, do you have a plan for integrating GlobalMenu in gnome-shell? The design for

XDG StatusNotifier Specification: Feedback Invited

2010-01-13 Thread Ted Gould
Howdy, A while ago I posed a blog entry that talks a little about the work that we're doing with what we've named Application Indicators, based upon a submitted XDG specification [2]. I realize that everyone doesn't read planet, and that it was before the holiday, so I wanted to repost here

Re: XDG StatusNotifier Specification: Feedback Invited

2010-01-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 21:03 -0500, Dan Winship wrote: On 01/13/2010 02:52 PM, Ted Gould wrote: Basically our goal is to clean up the current systray and provide a consistent means of interacting with applications that choose to put items in there. This means choosing a middle ground

Re: application indicators

2010-02-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 13:32 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: * It'd be really nice to get some discussion of how this fits in with the design plans for GNOME Shell (note that in GNOME 2 if applications use this, you have potentially *3* representations of an application in the top panel, this

Re: application indicators

2010-02-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 18:54 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: Have you done any research on what Windows or MacOS X provide in that area, for applications to use? How do the APIs differ? We weren't trying to match an API or duplicate one from OSX or Windows. What we were targeting is having a

Re: External Dependency Proposal: libappindicator

2010-02-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 10:42 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:42:58PM -0600, Ted Gould wrote: Q: Does this fit the the design goals for GNOME Shell? A: I can't speak for the designers of GNOME Shell but they've talked about how the top panel should behave like a menu

Re: External Dependency Proposal: libappindicator

2010-02-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 11:00 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: I would like to propose libappindicator as an external dependency. libappindicator is a simple library that provides a way for an application to put a menu inside an application specific area, most typically on a panel. It also

Re: External Dependency Proposal: libappindicator

2010-02-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 14:16 +0100, Christian Persch wrote: I would like to propose libappindicator as an external dependency. libappindicator is a simple library that provides a way for an application to put a menu inside an application specific area, most typically on a panel. It also

Re: External Dependency Proposal: libappindicator

2010-02-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 23:20 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: If you are proposing an API that directly conflicts with something that is already provided in GTK+, you should really have a better one... I guess I don't feel like it's a conflict. I feel like it's an extension similar to how other

Re: Label in tray = P in the A

2010-03-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 23:42 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: StatusIcons are not GTK widgets. And, as the result, the indicator has to emulate gtk widget. That's a real pain, folks. The indicator renders text to cairo, converts cairo to pixbuf, sets status icon from pixbuf. Worst of all, the

Re: Re: External Dependency Proposal: libappindicator

2010-05-07 Thread Ted Gould
Not to criticize your decision, but just to correct a couple of factual details in your e-mail: On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 12:20 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: As for the trayicons in the message tray, it is possible that tray-side-menu-rendering, as in libappindicator, would be useful for our design

Re: Modulesets Reorganization

2010-06-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 00:37 +0100, Lucas Rocha wrote: The release team would like to propose some important changes in the way we organize our modulesets. It's a shame that this came out almost simultaneously with GNOME 3 module decisions -- as it seems that they are intrinsically tied. For

Re: (L)GPLv3

2010-07-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:34 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca wrote: Anybody who has an application that is GPLv2-only and has accepted enough contributions that it has become an unreasonable proposition to relicense has made a

Re: (L)GPLv3

2010-07-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 13:17 -0400, Ryan Lortie wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 12:12 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: IANAL but I'm curious if a standard exception couldn't be drafted for LGPLv3 to allow linking with GPLv2 programs. Perhaps

Re: JSON-Glib (was: New module proposal: Clutter core)

2010-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 12:50 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: • JSON-GLib (which should be added to the external dependencies) Just to be curious, why not propose JSON-Glib. It seems with all of the Javascript going into GNOME 3 it would make sense to have a blessed way to read JSON would be a

Re: GSettings best practice

2010-11-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 17:15 +0100, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: Le dimanche 07 novembre 2010 à 10:57 -0500, Ryan Lortie a écrit : We were sitting around at the Boston summit today (me, vuntz, tedg, and pbor via IRC) noticing that we have a mix of people using /apps/gedit/ sort of paths and

Re: First release of geocode-glib available

2011-05-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 16:52 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: This library should be used in place of Geoclue's D-Bus API for geocoding and reverse geocoding. Is this now deprecated in the Geoclue API? It seems like there's an advantage to using an API that can have multiple providers.

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-12 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 02:15 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: Il giorno mar, 10/05/2011 alle 20.51 +0100, Bastien Nocera ha scritto: http://live.gnome.org/DejaDup/Screenshots/Future for screenshots. Déjà Dup 19.1, which includes those changes, is already in Fedora Rawhide and will be in Ubuntu

Re: First release of geocode-glib available

2011-05-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 21:24 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 10:20 +0200, Ted Gould wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 16:52 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: This library should be used in place of Geoclue's D-Bus API for geocoding and reverse geocoding. Is this now

Re: GNOME Online Accounts extensibility

2011-10-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 14:49 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Ken VanDine kvand...@gnome.org wrote: Sorry, not trying to sound harsh here but I couldn't find a better way to say this. Basically you are saying that GOA isn't really an open technology to help

Re: Dynamic help menus for 3.2

2011-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 18:22 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 15:01 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: Don't know if you have considered this but in OSX some applications have a search entry in its Help menu, this entry searches among all the menu items and also Help

Re: GNOME Online Accounts extensibility

2011-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:21 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: And we don't want to add switches for services that are not covered by GNOME apps. Could you elaborate on the term GNOME apps in this context please? For instance, if Inkscape wanted to have account settings for the recently published

Re: GNOME Online Accounts extensibility

2011-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:49 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: If you examine the GOA project and its git log, You can rest assured that I haven't read the git log, I did look at the last release though :-) combined with the idea of supporting generic IMAP/SMTP/XMPP/Caldav configurations, see

Re: GNOME Online Accounts extensibility

2011-10-10 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 11:10 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: Either way, I don't get why you are so concerned about whether GOA can be extended. If you buy into the idea that apps will always need to have a separate panel for non-mainstream accounts then... then the app can provide the extension

Re: Dynamic help menus for 3.2

2011-10-10 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:08 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 16:19, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 18:22 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: That actually works as well in my prototypes, but it might not be in good enough shape for 3.4. The interaction

Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

2012-01-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 12:37 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: the dependency is not on systemd - it's on a DBus API. systemd provides one implementation of that DBus API. I think that this would be more apparent if the DBus interface descriptions were maintained outside of the systemd codebase. If

Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

2012-01-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 10:22 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 08:59 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: I think that this would be more apparent if the DBus interface descriptions were maintained outside of the systemd codebase. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd

Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

2012-01-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 23:20 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 20.01.12 08:59, Ted Gould (t...@gould.cx) wrote: It seems to me that this would be a good usage of Freedesktop. I'd be happy to maintain such a repository if people would be willing to use it. Yeah, it's a great use

Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

2012-01-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 23:48 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 20.01.12 16:29, Ted Gould (t...@gould.cx) wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 23:20 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 20.01.12 08:59, Ted Gould (t...@gould.cx) wrote: It seems to me that this would be a good usage

Re: [gnome-settings-daemon] datetime: Remove datetime D-Bus mechanism

2012-01-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2012-01-21 at 01:07 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 20.01.12 17:08, Ted Gould (t...@gould.cx) wrote: I already maintain a ton of stuff, and I try to keep maintenance burden and bureaucracy small for myself. Hence the Wiki, and not a complex standards process and a git

OT: Unity handling of Application menus (was: Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu)

2012-04-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:23 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work with Ubuntu. I remember Colin talking about how hard this was because of integration between

Re: OT: Unity handling of Application menus (was: Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu)

2012-04-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 11:54 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: While there are few today, our goal here was to ensure that as new applications are developed it is expected that they'd use GMenuModel instead of traditional GTK

Re: Using the Unicode ellipsis (…) instead of three periods

2012-12-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 19:09 -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: I think it's time that we move away from using three periods (...) to represent the ellipsis and instead use the Unicode character (…). We've been trying to do this on the Unity Indicators and I wrote a small automake fragment to test for