Re: GitLab mirror considered harmful

2019-02-04 Thread William Jon McCann via desktop-devel-list
On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jan Tojnar via desktop-devel-list wrote: > 3. GitLab does not support any references from gitrevisions(7) other > than commit hash, compare > https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-shell/commit/af34b7c25e39e727f7dbd6e3dae0e7c5fe60f141%5E > and > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOM

Re: Portals and Sandboxing

2014-01-03 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Michael Ikey Doherty < michael.i.dohe...@intel.com> wrote: > Thank you for the clarification. I do believe the GNOME wiki and various > sites could do with updating and being more informative. I lose count of > how many times I'm sent to broken/dead/deleted lin

Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin

2012-10-24 Thread William Jon McCann
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 10:11 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: ... >> You still haven't answered why it's important to keep ConsoleKit. > > Because I'm opposing your methods here on *general principle*. I don't > care about ConsoleKit (the codeba

Re: Introducing Photos

2012-05-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: ... > That's not a reason at all, Yorba seems open to work on making Shotwell more > GNOME 3 friendly... so those widgets can be shared anyway > >> >> Therefore, for these reasons, if you look at the gnome-photos tree, it >> is almost a cl

Re: Boxes and 3.4

2011-11-30 Thread William Jon McCann
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011, à 10:31 +0100, William Jon McCann a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: >> > Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011, à 00:37 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Kha

Re: Boxes and 3.4

2011-11-30 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011, à 00:37 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit : >> Hi everyone, >>    As most of you know, we proposed Boxes for 3.4 and from what I can >> tell, there were no big objections in the end. There was then the >>

Re: Boxes (was Re: 3.4 Features, final round)

2011-11-08 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Vincent, On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le dimanche 06 novembre 2011, à 17:06 +0100, Frederic Peters a écrit : >> + Boxes >>   https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/Boxes >>   → many commits, mclasen will push the developers to blog a progress report >>     on

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v4)

2011-08-19 Thread William Jon McCann
Really ought to stay out of this thread but there is one point that is important to address below. On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > But again, as I said, if there's no survey on Earth you could trust, > just ignore the results. Results by themselves cannot hurt you. Thi

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-01 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi Jon! > >> Are they listening or participating? Transparency and reporting is >> pretty simple to solve. Publish logs, document (wiki), and blog and >> you're pretty much there.  Participation and engagement is much >> harder. Basica

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-01 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > >> On 1 June 2011 12:57, Matthias Clasen wrote: >>> Basically, mailing lists don't work for many kinds of productive >>> discussion. >> >> Agreed. In my recent discussions with the dudes in #gnome-design there >> was a flurry of

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-01 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Allan Day wrote: >> Dave Neary wrote: >>> Presumably you & others are still not interested in drawing a few >>> developers and designers into a gnome-design mailing list, separate from >>> the usability list >> >> I think it's import

Re: systemd as external dependency

2011-05-18 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 18 mai 2011 à 14:09 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : >> systemd itself has very minimal external dependencies. You need Linux, >> udev, D-Bus, and that's it. (there are a couple of additional optional >> deps however).

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-14 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert Ancell wrote: >>> - LightDM is a cross-platform solution.  Ubuntu is planning to switch >>> to it this cycle, and other distributions have expressed interest in >>> the project.  By sharing this piece of infrastructure GNOME can spend >>> more time wor

Re: New module proposal: LightDM

2011-05-13 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Robert Ancell wrote: > I'm proposing LightDM [1] as a replacement for GDM.  I started the > proposal for this in GNOME 3.0 [2] but due to the young age of the > project I thought it better to wait until 3.2 before making a full > proposal.  This is it.  I apol

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-12 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, This thread has clearly jumped the shark but there is one point worth responding to here. (which is a shame because deja dup is really pretty cool. It is too bad the thread was turned on a tangent) On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: ... > And note, while this is just an

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-12 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Robert Ancell wrote: > On 12 May 2011 23:42, Luca Ferretti wrote: >> Il giorno gio, 12/05/2011 alle 20.45 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov ha scritto: >> >>> GNOME is not an OS. GNOME is not a distribution. GNOME is a core >>> desktop ("desktop building toolkit", if yo

Re: Musings on the contacts user experience

2011-04-29 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, Some very brief thoughts. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 13:19 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > >> In general, then, my current position is that, despite it not being the >> primary way in which people will access messaging, we do still need a >>

Re: [gnome-session] rename gnome-session-save to gnome-session-quit

2011-02-28 Thread William Jon McCann
the patch is mostly good, but the man page is wrong > (--logout is the default behavior, but it's not mentioned and it's > unclear what happens by default; --no-prompt doesn't do anything with > --power-off). > > Vincent > > Le jeudi 24 février 2011, à 22:56 +0000, Wi

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-07 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:58 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 01:04 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: >> > On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 19:19 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> >> Is there a place where IRC logs of discussions

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 06:37:33PM +0100, Gendre Sebastien wrote: >> Le mardi 04 janvier 2011 à 10:54 +0100, Christopher Roy Bratusek a >> écrit : > [..] >> > GNOME3 + Compiz = Fail ... or: GNOME3 + Sawfish = Fail > [..] >> I agree with yo

Re: gnome-panel & gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Vincent, On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mardi 28 décembre 2010, à 15:20 +0100, Olav Vitters a écrit : >> However, the fallback is meant as a fallback, not as providing >> gnome-panel and its applets. So I don't see anything wrong with not >> providing the applets. Wh

Re: gnome-panel & gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Carlos, On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Carlos Garcia Campos wrote: > Excerpts from Frederic Peters's message of jue dic 23 10:22:40 +0100 2010: >> Hi, >> >> Sergey Udaltsov wrote: >> > I am confused, what's the story with gnome-panel and gnome-applets in >> > 3.0? Are they in, are they out?

Re: GNOME 2.91.1 status

2010-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Stef Walter wrote: > On 2010-10-20 11:39, Lucas Rocha wrote: >> seahorse doesn't build with libnotify 0.7 >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=632712 > > What's the replacement in libnotify for attaching a notification to a > widget? The following com

Re: splitting up gnome-games

2010-10-05 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to float the idea of splitting up gnome-games upstream into > separate git modules.  The main rationale is that downstream, we want > separate binary packages; this is most convenient to do if upstream is > separate modu

Re: (L)GPLv3

2010-07-06 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Ryan, On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Ryan Lortie wrote: > hi Vincent, > > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: >> Do you feel okay with the idea of allowing proprietary apps to use our >> platform but not GPLv2 apps? > > In short, yes. > > Anybody who has an application tha

Re: Modulesets Reorganization

2010-06-02 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Lucas, Overall this sounds good to me. Definitely a step in the right direction. ... > In summary, this means that the GNOME releases would be composed by the > following modulesets: >  - Desktop >  - Platform >  - Extended Platform >  - Mobile A few questions about this list. Is Platform

Re: Module Proposal: GNOME Shell

2010-04-03 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Ross, On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Ross Burton wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 23:57 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >> > maintained for people without the correct hardware support. As of now, >> > all intel, amd/ati and nvidia cards sold in the last five years should >> >> >> I don't believe that is

Re: Module Proposal: GNOME Shell

2010-04-01 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: > El jue, 01-04-2010 a las 13:31 +0100, Bastien Nocera escribió: >> >> The idea would be to have the "appearance" cut down to only >> "personalisation" (background and screensaver), and leave the icon and >> control themes handling

Re: Window titles

2009-11-17 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Calum, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 14 Nov 2009, at 09:58, Andrew Cowie wrote: > >> So anyone care to put a stake in the ground about what is correct? > > Well, the HIG advice hasn't really changed over the years: >

Re: A different point of vision (was: Appearance capplet)

2009-11-11 Thread William Jon McCann
One small clarification... On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hi Luca, > > I'm not sure your evidence supports your conclusion. > > I agree that changing the font size (basically the scale of the > screen) is an important thing.  I've writ

Re: A different point of vision (was: Appearance capplet)

2009-11-11 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Luca, I'm not sure your evidence supports your conclusion. I agree that changing the font size (basically the scale of the screen) is an important thing. I've written up some thoughts on this here: http://live.gnome.org/Design/DesktopFontPreferences Also, in some cases using a text-only tool

Re: Signalling when the desktop is loaded

2009-08-12 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey, On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 14:54 +0100, Neil J Patel wrote: > >> I would love to have Nautilus running in UNR as it handles >> auto-mounting much better than the launcher can, however it does not >> have a 'daemon-mode' so it doesn't run un

Re: Application names

2009-08-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le lundi 10 août 2009, à 09:03 -0400, William Jon McCann a écrit : >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: > > [need to think about your answer to the first question] > >> >  + translators have s

Re: Application names

2009-08-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le samedi 08 août 2009, à 17:51 -0400, William Jon McCann a écrit : >> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Frederic Peters wrote: >> > However for compatibility reasons, I have been interested by Colin >> > Walter

Re: Application names

2009-08-08 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Frederic Peters wrote: > William Jon McCann wrote: > >> My proposal for 2.28 is: > > UI Freeze for 2.28 is set to Monday; sure we could grant an exception > and rush things, but I'd prefer to wait for the beginning of 2.29, > es

Application names

2009-08-08 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey, So, in preparation for GNOME Shell and 3.0 a number of us have been trying to address various inconsistencies in how we name applications. I've just posted a blog about this: http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2009/08/08/whatchamacallit/ My proposal for 2.28 is: 1. We need to patch the panel

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-24 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Jason, On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Calum Benson wrote: >> >> So if it turns out that the GNOME community like the general direction >> we've suggested for the control center, then sure, I'd certainly like to see >> us widen out

Re: GNOME 3.0 - shell and applets

2009-05-19 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Luca, On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > 2009/5/15 William Jon McCann : >> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Luis Menina wrote: >>> >>> Please, don't try to abuse the system tray for things that should be >>> applets. System tray h

Re: GNOME 3.0 - shell and applets

2009-05-14 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Luis, On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Luis Menina wrote: > Toms a écrit : > >> 1) System tray - applets that could end up in system tray, most >> probably contextually - like, when they are needed or make sense. Or, >> sometimes per user request in preferences (something like a "show in >> s

Re: Applets? [was Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0]

2009-04-30 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Calum, On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 21 Apr 2009, at 04:34, Travis Watkins wrote: > >> This one at least has been solved in Windows 7 by merging the >> QuickLaunch area with running applications. A dock would also solve >> this problem nicely. You'll notice OS X d

Re: Applets? [was Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0]

2009-04-20 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Owen, > The main open question for gnome-shell is not how to implement them. > It's the user interface question. And when we look at the user interface > question I think the label "applet" is a bit deceptive. We have all sort > of different things that are applets, and their only commonality

Re: Running GNOME in jhbuild session eat all CPU

2009-01-24 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Il giorno sab, 24/01/2009 alle 14.22 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee ha > scritto: >> 2009-01-24 klockan 14:06 skrev Luca Ferretti: >> > Now, someone has the same issue? And how can I try to investigate it? >> > The only evidence that somethin

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-11 Thread William Jon McCann
2009/1/11 Josselin Mouette : > Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 12:21 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit : >> Please also note that on current trunk the Audio capplet from >> gnome-control-center and the Volume Control applet from gnome-applets >> was replaced in favour of new gnome-volume-control and >> gn

gnome-screensaver branched for 2.24

2008-11-13 Thread William Jon McCann
gnome-screensaver branched for 2.24. Thanks, Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: new module proposal: notification-daemon+libnotify

2008-11-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Christian, 2008/11/10 Christian Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Very critical notifications can be set to have a non-expiring timeout. This > would ensure that they stay visible until the user acknowledges them. > > Some people have also talked about writing a notification backlog for > importa

gnome-media branched for 2.24

2008-11-03 Thread William Jon McCann
gnome-media branched for 2.24. New volume control going into trunk. Thanks, Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-31 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Calum, On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 28 Oct 2008, at 18:36, Karl Lattimer wrote: >> >> Gather up data from humble users, performing a specific set of tasks >> which are challenging enough and enough like real life to build up >> decent data se

GDM branched for 2.24

2008-10-13 Thread William Jon McCann
2.24 is stable. Development continues on trunk. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: New svn module: gnome-sound-theme

2008-08-12 Thread William Jon McCann
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Emmanuele Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 14:36 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: ... >> If people think an uncompressed lossless format has any value, then it >> we should consider a better format than WAV, which has a 4 GB filesize >> limitation

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Lennart, On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Lennart Poettering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 25.06.08 19:07, William Jon McCann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> We can still support applications that only know if they should >> inhibit "just in time" by

gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, Dan Winship and Lucas Rocha have done a nice job revamping the gnome-session codebase. It was a meritorious task. You can read about the design here: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession The new code is much cleaner. Parts of the new design are very good. In particular,

gnome-screensaver branched

2008-04-29 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, I have branched gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-22 and development continues on trunk. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Where's the gnome wallpaper gone in E17 with the latest gnome?

2008-04-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, 2008/4/26 The DarkMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... > Update: I found that after launching nautilus in E17, the gnome wallpaper is > setted in background. > Nautilus opens a fake desktop window when you opn it (to avoid this you > should launch it with nautilus --no-desktop) and a normal browse

Re: Dependency Proposal: Clutter 0.6.2, ClutterMM 0.6

2008-04-21 Thread William Jon McCann
2008/4/21 Luca Ferretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... > Emmanuele, IMHO the better and faster way to show everyone the Clutter > goodnees is provide a Coverflow[1] like[2] plugin for Rhythmbox whitin 4 > weeks ;-) That would be awesome. Here's the bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4158

Re: Status of GDM for GNOME 2.22

2008-02-03 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Joe, 2008/2/3 Joe Marcus Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The status of gvfs for GNOME 2.22 was recently discussed, and it seems > good progress is being made on this to reduce regressions, but I have > seen no mention of the regressions introduced in GDM 2.21. The move of > GDM to D-BUS has comp

gnome-screensaver and nautilus-cd-burner branched

2007-12-12 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, I have branched nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-20 and "development" continues on trunk. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel

Re: Don't forget the some folks use network access to Gnome

2007-12-09 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Seb, On Dec 7, 2007 7:13 AM, Seb James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > 2) I think this is one for the gdm developers or specifically for the > gdm theme developers. The window that shows up when you choose "Log Out > $user" or "Shut Down" always has slightly the wrong options when you are > in

Re: Timelapsed backgrounds

2007-09-27 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Owen, On 9/27/07, Owen Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > My first reaction to this is "cool!" But then, I think how much of > the time is the desktop actually visible? It seems a bit of a wasteful > thing to spend CPU cycles animating something that's entirely obscured > by my full-sc

Re: High CPU load from image slideshow screensaver

2007-05-31 Thread William Jon McCann
On 5/29/07, Adam Rosi-Kessel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The image slideshow screensaver in gnome-screensaver puts such a load on > my laptop's CPU that the fan runs constantly and tasks such as music > playing with totem become very choppy. Although it's an older laptop, I > would hope it wouldn'

nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver branched

2007-04-23 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I have branched nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-18 and development continues on HEAD. No specific plans at the moment. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.

Re: ubuntu's shutdown screen

2007-04-04 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Brian, On 4/4/07, Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Obviously root needs to actually run these commands and I guess the > display-manager daemon has been a convenient place for this logic. > It might be better to move this functionality into a separate daemon > that works with KDE

Re: Fast User Switch Applet development

2007-02-13 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Calvin, On 2/13/07, Calvin Gaisford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 14:15 -0500, Thomas Thurman wrote: > > On 12/02/07, Calvin Gaisford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Has there been any discussion on making the Fusa functionality available > > > in other components? I've b

Re: slab menu

2007-02-06 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Rodrigo, On 2/6/07, Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 14:42 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote: > > Regarding configuration, I think the slab is in a better position to > > provide an interface that doesn't require configuration of quick &

Re: slab menu

2007-02-05 Thread William Jon McCann
On 2/5/07, Wouter Bolsterlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007-02-05 klockan 20:42 skrev William Jon McCann: > > * when you don't know the appropriate category for an application > > (Evolution is in Internet, right?) > > Yeah, why don't we put Evolution in bo

Re: slab menu

2007-02-05 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Calum, On 2/5/07, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 13:02 -0500, JP Rosevear wrote: > > > How is it slow to get to things vs a traditional hierarchal menu? My > > important apps are two clicks away -> open menu -> click. Hierarachal > > menus more clicks than that

Re: Proposed module: gnome-main-menu

2007-01-09 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Rodney, On 1/9/07, Rodney Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 17:44 +, Bill Haneman wrote: > Since there was a lot of a11y work in the existing menu code, I doubt > that g-m-m would "just work" for all of our a11y scenarios without > bugfixes/tweaks. Can you explain t

Re: Playing a sound in GNOME

2006-10-31 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi,On 10/31/06, Étienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I fully agree with you. I must point the GSmartMix project which isbased on gstreamer and allow fine mix between app. If nautilus-cd-burnerwas able to simply play a sound at the end to the burn process, it must do that in a consistent fas

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Jim,Where should bugs be filed?  I don't see a component in gnome bugzilla.  I suppose one should be created.Some initial thoughts from just a first look so they may be ignorant and superficial:* Ellipsis is used for items that require input (eg. "Log Out...") and for those with not enough space

nautilus-cd-burner branched for 2.16

2006-10-16 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello,I have branched nautilus-cd-burner. The stable branch isgnome-2-16 and development continues on HEAD.Plans include: * Better error reportingJon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listi

gnome-screensaver branched for 2.16

2006-10-16 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello,I have branched gnome-screensaver. The stable branch isgnome-2-16 and development continues on HEAD.Plans include:* Adding a power management baseline timeout * Doing less polling* Try to standardize theme format (bug #354811)* Interacting with ConsoleKit

gnome-screensaver branched for 2.14

2006-04-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I have branched gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-14 and development continues on HEAD. Plans include: * Add refcounting to Inhibit DBUS API (bug #334907) * Removing themes from the list (bug #316462) * Add XEVIE support (bug #337203) * Full-

nautilus-cd-burner branched for 2.14

2006-04-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I have branched nautilus-cd-burner. The stable branch is gnome-2-14 and development continues on HEAD. Plans include: * Verify CD feature (bug #125470) * Write DVDs without using a temporary image (bug #113480) Jon ___ deskto

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Vincent, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mercredi 15 février 2006 à 11:45 -0600, Shaun McCance a écrit : On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 12:54 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Quoting David Zeuthen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This was moved to gnome-power-manager by Jon, as monitor DPMS control was considered more o

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Davyd, Davyd Madeley wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:27:34PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: A comment about the "notification spam": the user only gets 4 notifications for "low battery", "very low battery" and "critical battery" and one saying "I'm doing the low-power action in 10 seconds"

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-07 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello Davyd, Davyd Madeley wrote: I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping with gnome-screensaver now. Having now used both of them, does it seem slow for anyone else? It seems that something has gone astray once or twice and forced me to have to change vt and kill th

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Ryan, I should point out that I can't speak for Richard, or David and these are merely my interpretations of their work. Ryan Lortie wrote: On Wed, 2006-18-01 at 10:32 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote: How is a system daemon more secure than a user session daemon? A system daemon

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello Ryan, You have some interesting comments about power management. I too have been thinking about this recently and I have a few questions and comments. Ryan Lortie wrote: [snip] Certainly, at the current time, it appears to be the best offering. However, after discussing this at length

Re: Browser Mode by Default [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-21 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Jeff, Jeff Waugh wrote: ... and yet users will still ask: "What are all these windows doing all over my screen?" -> *that* is the big scary thing staring them right in the face. So, this gets to the heart of the question. In spatial mode this situation can only occur if the user commonly

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Rob Adams wrote: The moral of the story is you're screwed on multi-user terminals. That is, if you rely on prompting the user for passwords alone. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/list

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Pat, Pat Suwalski wrote: I was thinking that the root password could unlock the screensaver regardless of whose screensaver it is. So, in order: - User password - Success: close screensaver - Failure: - Root password - Success: close screensaver - Failure: continue

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Shaun, Good comments. I'll reply inline. Shaun McCance wrote: * On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenSaver there's the suggestion: ...an OS-X-like dialog shake would save having to print ugly "That password was incorrect" text. I notice that you have the shake effect, but that you sti

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Rodney, Rodney Dawes wrote: How about... 3. Unlocking the screen with the root password should do the same as choosing switch users, and logging in as root. Not doing so is a privacy and security issue, as it may allow root access to remote hosts, that root normally does not have access to.

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Rodney, Rodney Dawes wrote: On my machine, it seems to use a horrendously scaled up version of the image not found icon, albeit, not the one in my icon theme. This is also an ugly thing to show, and is going to show up the majority of the time, as most people do not set faces. It's also cente

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Christopher James Lahey wrote: What does it have if the person doesn't have a face? Chris A bag? No, in fact, the latest version doesn't use an image if the face image is not available. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Christopher James Lahey wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 09:11 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 15:06 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: * Don't display the "Unlock" button when show the switch users options This makes sense. Deleted the original email,

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi JP, JP Rosevear wrote: I think its wrong to assume the face stuff will be used everywhere and then to feature it prominently, essentially forcing it to be used or to get a meaningless (large) abstract person all the time The large, and fuzzy abstract person is not used in the latest (0.0.17

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi JP, JP Rosevear wrote: I'm in favour with a couple of notes: 1. I liked the UI for unlocking circa 0.13 much better than the current I made some changes in response to Matthew Paul Thomas' analysis [1]. I don't agree with all of his conclusions but overall it seemed to be "less" which a

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, Xavier Bestel wrote: Just for the record, does it run xscreensaver hacks ? Especially OpenGL ones ? Sure does. More details are in the FAQ: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver_2fFrequentlyAskedQuestions Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing li

Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I am pleased to propose gnome-screensaver for inclusion in the GNOME 2.14 Desktop release. gnome-screensaver is a new screensaver that can replace xscreensaver. It is designed to integrate well with the desktop and provide an control interface that is desktop neutral. It simplifies an

Re: Moving Applets

2005-10-12 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Davyd, Davyd Madeley wrote: Applet Current ProposedNotes -- -- - clock panel applets remove e-d-s dep in panel This has come up a few times now and I still don't really understand it. I think e-d-s is destined to be

nautilus-cd-burner branched for 2.12

2005-10-06 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I have branched nautilus-cd-burner. The stable branch is gnome-2-12 and development continues on HEAD. No big plans for GNOME 2.14 - just fixing bugs. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/m

Re: gnome-power-manager in 2.14, was: new modules for 2.12

2005-07-27 Thread William Jon McCann
Luis Villa wrote: I'm guessing gnome-power-manager[1] and gnome-screensaver fall into the 2.14 time-frame. And fast-user-switcher. I'd personally *love* to see that whole pile land in 2.14. My hope is that we can get a nice DBus interface to GDM going by then. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_b

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-08 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi David, David Zeuthen wrote: 1. How do see this being integrated with power management solutions like e.g. the existing gnome-power project and some of the ideas that were discussed at GUADEC [1]? This is certainly the next step. Up until now I have been concentrating mostly on feature pa

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread William Jon McCann
Jeff Waugh wrote: Well, that we can definitely help with. :-) Is there a recent tarball release? Do you want me to upload a release to ftp.gnome.org for you? Would you consider proposing it for 2.12? Just made one the other day actually. :) http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ftp-release-list/2005-

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Jeff, Jeff Waugh wrote: So, do you think there are any issues remaining with gnome-screensaver before it can start being pushed towards inclusion in the Desktop release (and thus, inclusion in distributions)? What do you think of using a common user interface between GDM and the lock dialogue

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello John, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: Some people had some problems with it becoming a replacement. Not sure what they were and I haven't investigated it myself. I encourage you and others to actually look at how I've been trying to design gnome-screensaver. I am eager to receive specific f

Re: Three Point Zero - Idea Mockups

2005-05-27 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Nat, I am very glad to hear about this. The video sounds really interesting. Perhaps we should start compiling all the usability study data on the web site someplace. Nat Friedman wrote: For example, we asked a lady to send mail to a friend. Against all odds, she started Evolution (not

Re: gnome-screensaver in CVS

2005-04-24 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Mike, Mike Hearn wrote: Will there be a random screensaver mode? I quite liked that feature of the current xscreensaver. It is an interesting problem. The daemon supports it. You can turn it on via gconf for now. However, I'm not really convinced it is necessary to expose this in the capple

Re: gnome-screensaver in CVS

2005-04-22 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi Luis, Luis Villa wrote: On 4/23/05, William Jon McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * include a version/equivalent of flurry screensaver * include a version/equivalent of glslideshow screensaver Are you not just wrapping the xscreensaver hacks? I thought that was what KDE ha

gnome-screensaver in CVS

2005-04-22 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, gnome-screensaver is now being maintained in GNOME CVS. There is a preferences tool included: To do: * include a version/

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