Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-16 Thread Giovanni Campagna
(sorry it took me this long to reply...) 2012/5/12 Marina Zhurakhinskaya : > The overall plan sounds good. Some comments are inline. > > >[...] > >> It then listens for >> GrabBroken events and immediately grabs keyboard and mouse in sync >> mode. > > GrabBroken is something that is sent by gdk wi

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - > From: "Martyn Russell" > To: "Jakub Steiner" > Cc: "Shaun McCance" , desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:35:13 AM > Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen > > On 04/26/2012 02:27 PM

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - > From: "Tomasz Torcz" > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:27:43 AM > Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 06:38:09PM -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya > wrote: > > Tec

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - > From: "Felipe Erias Morandeira" > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:53:23 AM > Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 26/04/12 03:04,

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - > From: "Maciej Marcin Piechotka" > To: "Shaun McCance" > Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:57:51 AM > Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen > > On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:04 -0400, Shaun Mc

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
still be able to change the volume. Marina - Original Message - From: "Marina Zhurakhinskaya" To: "desktop-devel-list" Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:38:09 PM Subject: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen Hi! I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The n

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - > From: shuihuzh...@free.fr > To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:33:41 AM > Subject: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen > > Hello, > > A little off topic, but since the move to gnome-shell > I miss an automatic sli

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - > From: "Jeremy Bicha" > To: "Marina Zhurakhinskaya" > Cc: "desktop-devel-list" > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:38:58 PM > Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen > > On 25 April 2012 18:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-11 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
The overall plan sounds good. Some comments are inline. - Original Message - > From: "Giovanni Campagna" > To: "Matthias Clasen" > Cc: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:51:20 AM > Subject: Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Scree

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-09 Thread Allan Day
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Frederic Peters wrote: >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: >> > Lionel proposes to consider merging the login screen and the lock screen >> > as both are about logging in. >> > In the end Allan wrote "let's continue some place else." >> > >> > D

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-09 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Frederic Peters wrote: > I believe the point Lionel made was not about technicalities but about > the design by itself, e.g. why would the process of logging in be > different in the morning when you turn your computer on than in the > afternoon when you walk

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-09 Thread Frederic Peters
Ray Strode wrote: > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > > Lionel proposes to consider merging the login screen and the lock screen > > as both are about logging in. > > In the end Allan wrote "let's continue some place else." > > > > Did this conversation continue somewhere, an

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-04 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Lionel proposes to consider merging the login screen and the lock screen > as both are about logging in. > In the end Allan wrote "let's continue some place else." > > Did this conversation continue somewhere, and what were the results? >

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-04 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/ScreenLock has a short discussion between Lionel and Allan. Lionel proposes to consider merging the login screen and the lock scr

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread Martyn Russell
On 04/26/2012 02:27 PM, Jakub Steiner wrote: Hi Shaun, Hello all, I *love* the idea of showing notifications and allowing control of media playback. It's something I've wanted for a very, very long time. But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the screen up. It's very cu

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread Jakub Steiner
Hey Maciej, > Why use PIN at all? (Apparently that is question for Windows 8 as > well). > Or is it for smartcards? PIN entry is an alternative authorization method for form factors where a typically long text entry (especially with numerals thrown in) is too much of a burden, like on a tablet

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread Jakub Steiner
Hi Shaun, > I *love* the idea of showing notifications and allowing control of > media playback. It's something I've wanted for a very, very long > time. > > But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the > screen up. It's very cumbersome with a mouse. And aside from being > inc

3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread shuihuzhuan
Hello, A little off topic, but since the move to gnome-shell I miss an automatic slideshow when the computer is idle (a screensaver in old terminology). How could it be integrated with the proposed design? Would customization of the lock screen be possible? Maybe a rotating background with a m

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-30 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 10:50 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: > On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > > Hi! > > Hello, > > > - have a limited number of status icons displayed > > I like everything I see from the mock ups with the exception of changing > the network connection. If I am do

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-30 Thread Martyn Russell
On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: Hi! Hello, - have a limited number of status icons displayed I like everything I see from the mock ups with the exception of changing the network connection. If I am downloading something in the background, I really don't want someone to be

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-29 Thread Giovanni Campagna
2012/4/27 Matthias Clasen : > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Tomas Frydrych > wrote: > >>> Our primary purpose is making a lock that can >>> prevent casual people from accessing another person's PC, while still >>> keeping the system usable for a single user setup. >> >> OK, I misunderstood; I a

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 06:38:09PM -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the lock > screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME Shell, and > the > gnome-screensaver will no longer be used. The lock screen will be d

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Tomas Frydrych wrote: >> Our primary purpose is making a lock that can >> prevent casual people from accessing another person's PC, while still >> keeping the system usable for a single user setup. > > OK, I misunderstood; I assumed Gnome aimed to be a desktop tha

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 19:00 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > >> Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the > >> lock screen when the user becomes acti

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Tomas Frydrych
On 27/04/12 09:10, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > If any, making the window owned by the compositor (or actually, > overlaying it with no X interaction at all) is safer, because it's the > WM that ultimately decides what is shown on screen, and thus is the > only component that can guarantee that it st

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Philip Withnall wrote: > On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:10 +0200, Giovanni Campagna wrote: >> Il 27 aprile 2012 09:36, Tomas Frydrych >> ha scritto: >> > On 27/04/12 05:45, Stef Walter wrote: >> >> On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> >> Conside

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Philip Withnall
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:10 +0200, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > Il 27 aprile 2012 09:36, Tomas Frydrych > ha scritto: > > On 27/04/12 05:45, Stef Walter wrote: > >> On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > > Considering how often Mutter crashes (I see about 3-4 crashes an hour),

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il 27 aprile 2012 09:36, Tomas Frydrych ha scritto: > On 27/04/12 05:45, Stef Walter wrote: >> On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: Considering how often Mutter crashes (I see about 3-4 crashes an hour), >>> >>> Bug references? We should not be crashing 3-4 times per hour. >>

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Ross Burton
On 27 April 2012 05:51, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> FWIW on some of my machines, the screensaver is already pretty funny >> security-wise. When coming back from sleep. It shows the desktop screen >> for several seconds before locking the screen. Sometimes it only locks >> one monitor. Sometimes th

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Tomas Frydrych
On 27/04/12 05:45, Stef Walter wrote: > On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >>> >>> Considering how often Mutter crashes (I see about 3-4 crashes an hour), >> >> Bug references? We should not be crashing 3-4 times per hour. > > 3-4 times a day for me. Here are some bugs, they're in th

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Stef Walter wrote: > On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Stef Walter
On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: >>> Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the >>> lock screen when the user becomes active again will be

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych wrote: > Hi, > > On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: >> Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the >> lock screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME >> Shell, and the gnome-screensaver will n

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Tomas Frydrych
Hi, On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the > lock screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME > Shell, and the gnome-screensaver will no longer be used. There are security implications of this prop

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Rovanion Luckey
2012/4/26 Jakub Steiner > > We briefly touch (pun intended) on keyboard interaction at the bottom of > the page. You should be able to unroll the curtain with Esc. If there is a sign on the curtain which says: "Press Esc to roll up the curtain" this will be easily discoverable and all fine. --

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Philip Withnall
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:55 -0400, Jakub Steiner wrote: > Hey Maciej, > > > Why use PIN at all? (Apparently that is question for Windows 8 as > > well). > > Or is it for smartcards? > > PIN entry is an alternative authorization method for form factors where a > typically long text entry (especia

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Jakub Steiner
Hi Shaun, > I *love* the idea of showing notifications and allowing control of > media playback. It's something I've wanted for a very, very long > time. > > But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the > screen up. It's very cumbersome with a mouse. And aside from being > inc

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Jakub Steiner
Hey Maciej, > Why use PIN at all? (Apparently that is question for Windows 8 as > well). > Or is it for smartcards? PIN entry is an alternative authorization method for form factors where a typically long text entry (especially with numerals thrown in) is too much of a burden, like on a tablet

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 11:32 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote: > As I understand it, typing the password will switch to the password > "dialog", which is about as keyboard/non-touch friendly as it gets :-) If the implementation is just like the screenshots, I would never know that's the case without ha

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Felipe Erias Morandeira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/04/12 03:04, Shaun McCance wrote: > But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the > screen up. It's very cumbersome with a mouse. And aside from being > inconvenient, without keyboard-only use it's not accessible. When a pa

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen > will > > - allow user authentication with a password, pin, fingerprint, or smartcard Looking forward to that! ___

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Florian Müllner
As I understand it, typing the password will switch to the password "dialog", which is about as keyboard/non-touch friendly as it gets :-) Florian ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/des

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Maciej Marcin Piechotka
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:04 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen > > will > > > > - be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Philip Withnall
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:04 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen > > will > > > > - be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-25 Thread meg ford
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock > screen will > > > > - be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME Shell

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-25 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen > will > > - be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME Shell > - be visually consistent with the look of the authentication >

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-25 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 25 April 2012 18:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the lock > screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME Shell, and > the gnome-screensaver will no longer be used. The lock screen will be > displayed within th

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-25 Thread Bhaavan Merchant
s: > > 1. Re: Design in the open (Allan Day) > 2. Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist (Philip Withnall) > 3. Re: Design in the open (Allan Day) > 4. Re: Design in the open (Felipe Erias Morandeira) > 5. Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist (Shaun McCance) > 6. Feature Unpropo

3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-25 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
Hi! I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen will - be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME Shell - be visually consistent with the look of the authentication components on the login screen - have a limited number of status icons displaye