Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-28 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi, On 27 March 2018 at 16:56, Aleksander Morgado wrote: > Hey! > >> Firstly, there are only two existing free GSM middleware frameworks: >> freesmartphone.org¹ (FSO) and oFono². FSO is actually a whole >> smartphone middleware, including not just telephony but contacts, >>

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-27 Thread Aleksander Morgado
Hey! > Firstly, there are only two existing free GSM middleware frameworks: > freesmartphone.org¹ (FSO) and oFono². FSO is actually a whole > smartphone middleware, including not just telephony but contacts, > alarms, audio, battery and so on. We are explicitly targetting the > GNOME platform

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-21 Thread Matthew Hodgson
On 19/03/2018 13:27, Simon McVittie wrote: There's no way we could have designed this correctly in Telepathy without being aware of protocol quirks like these, and indeed this API wasn't present in our first attempts (initially we could only represent one-to-one conversations and named

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:43:09 +, Bob Ham wrote: > On 19/03/18 13:27, Simon McVittie wrote: > > There's no way we could have designed this correctly in Telepathy without > > being aware of protocol quirks like these, and indeed this API wasn't > > present in our first attempts (initially we

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-21 Thread Bob Ham
On 19/03/18 13:27, Simon McVittie wrote: > You can't[1] > have an XMPP conversation with two peers without joining a (named) > chatroom. Even if *you* send every message to both of those peers, > their clients won't know that they should send replies to both you and > the other peer. > > In

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-19 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 19:13 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 at 10:39:39 +, Bob Ham wrote: > > My colleague François Téchené recently wrote a blog post³ proposing a > > unified UX using a "feature"-based approach rather than an > > application-based approach.  This proposal

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-19 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 at 12:18:30 +, Bob Ham wrote: > On 15/03/18 19:13, Simon McVittie wrote: > > the hard division between one-to-one > > messages and chatrooms in XMPP is unlike the variable-number-of-users > > "switchboards" in the now-defunct MSNP.) > > Out of interest, does Telepathy

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-19 Thread Bob Ham
On 15/03/18 19:13, Simon McVittie wrote: > the hard division between one-to-one > messages and chatrooms in XMPP is unlike the variable-number-of-users > "switchboards" in the now-defunct MSNP.) Out of interest, does Telepathy expose that difference? To me, that kind of distinction seems like

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 at 10:39:39 +, Bob Ham wrote: > My colleague François Téchené recently wrote a blog post³ proposing a > unified UX using a "feature"-based approach rather than an > application-based approach. This proposal comes from the ideas of > Ethical Design⁴. The technological

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Matthew Hodgson
On 15/03/2018 10:39, Bob Ham wrote: The future that I'm looking towards is one where the Librem 5 is a shining beacon of harmonious Telepathy-based telecommunication magic, providing unified interfaces to various different messaging and audio/video telephony systems including Matrix, GSM, SIP

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread mcatanzaro
Note the DTMF is really, really unreliable... not sure if that's a bug in Empathy or in Telepathy, but I'd assume the later. I reported this as https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=770709. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Bob Ham
On 15/03/18 17:13, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > Le jeudi 15 mars 2018 à 15:41 +, Bob Ham a écrit : >> is there a 3x4 button grid somewhere that I missed? > > To be clear, I mean that Empathy Call UI have a dial pad with all this > with the DTMF implemented. So the code is there. Mostly all what

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le jeudi 15 mars 2018 à 15:41 +, Bob Ham a écrit : > On 15/03/18 14:48, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > > Le jeudi 15 mars 2018 à 10:39 +, Bob Ham a écrit : > > >> There's no existing dialer in GNOME > > > Note that this is not entirely true, there is a dialer in Empathy > > already. It's most

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Bob Ham
On 15/03/18 14:48, Nicolas Dufresne wrote: > Le jeudi 15 mars 2018 à 10:39 +, Bob Ham a écrit : >> There's no existing dialer in GNOME > Note that this is not entirely true, there is a dialer in Empathy > already. It's most likely a miss-fit for a Phone UI (just like most > Gnome application

Re: Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Nicolas Dufresne
Le jeudi 15 mars 2018 à 10:39 +, Bob Ham a écrit : > Hi all, > > I'm working on the ability to make a phone call with the Librem 5 phone. > I've started working on a Telepathy-based dialer and call handler. The > goal at Purism is to work upstream and we use GNOME as the desktop >

Making a phone call with GNOME

2018-03-15 Thread Bob Ham
Hi all, I'm working on the ability to make a phone call with the Librem 5 phone. I've started working on a Telepathy-based dialer and call handler. The goal at Purism is to work upstream and we use GNOME as the desktop environment in our distribution, PureOS, which will be what the Librem 5