Hi,
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 mars 2010, à 16:39 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
>> I didn't miss that. :) If you read carefully he said "just to be
>> safe" and hence it's not so important. Still, I tried to setup the
>
> I said "on the safe
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 16:28 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:25 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
I tried to sent this several times, but it looks like GMANE is not
working for me today ...
And Evolution has its "reply to all" feature all wrong too, apparently.
[CUT]
> > What
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 12:59 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> 2 things come to mind:
> - Tracker shouldn't need to use D-Bus to access its database read-only:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613255
This isn't as easy a
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:25 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 19/03/10 13:56, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 13:36 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
> >> On 19/03/10 12:59, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2 things come to min
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 16:56 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
[CUT]
Short note on...
> Actually this issue is partly solved. I made sure that tracker guys
> have the right ontology ..metadata keys
Let's just call these things ontologies.
That's just what everybody in RDF calls it. And thos
On 19/03/10 13:56, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 13:36 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
Well, D-Bus provides a single entry point for any requests to the data.
If we then provide some direct access using a library, that complicates
things further. At this point we are not threaded, how
On 19/03/10 13:56, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 13:36 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
On 19/03/10 12:59, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
2 things come to mind:
- Tracker shouldn't need to use D-Bus to access its database read-only:
https:
Le vendredi 19 mars 2010, à 17:17 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > I didn't see your request for help on irc, and I'm sure many people
> > didn't.
>
> Thats ok, people have better things to do. :) Just to be clear, I
> didn't mean
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le vendredi 19 mars 2010, à 16:39 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
>> I didn't miss that. :) If you read carefully he said "just to be
>> safe" and hence it's not so important. Still, I tried to setup the
>
> I said "on the safe side"
Hi Bastien,
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> 2 things come to mind:
> - Tracker shouldn't need to use D-Bus to access its database read-only:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613255
I couldn't agree more. So here is my plan: I will go with all
plugin[1]
Le vendredi 19 mars 2010, à 16:39 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
>I didn't miss that. :) If you read carefully he said "just to be
> safe" and hence it's not so important. Still, I tried to setup the
I said "on the safe side" because I've no good example of when those
strings would app
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> > Heh, the logic should be reversed :-) It can't be approved (or likely to
>> > be approved) until the app is translatable.
>>
>> Since me and Bastien (based on Lennart's arguments on this thread)
>>
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 13:36 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 19/03/10 12:59, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
> >
> > 2 things come to mind:
> > - Tracker shouldn't need to use D-Bus to access its database read-only:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/sho
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 13:36 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 19/03/10 12:59, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
> >
> > 2 things come to mind:
> > - Tracker shouldn't need to use D-Bus to access its database read-only:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/sho
On 19/03/10 12:59, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
2 things come to mind:
- Tracker shouldn't need to use D-Bus to access its database read-only:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613255
Well, D-Bus provides a single entry point for any requ
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 18:12 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
> Hi,
>
> - Original message -
> >
> > The only comments I would make are:
> > - The preferences UI is pretty horrible
>
> I agree but I really suck at UIs so if you could list specific issues,
> I promise to fix them soon. As you
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> > Heh, the logic should be reversed :-) It can't be approved (or likely to
> > be approved) until the app is translatable.
>
> Since me and Bastien (based on Lennart's arguments on this thread)
> agreed to kill the preferences UI in favor of some simple options to
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
>> > We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be really
>> > nice if Rygel had the infrastructure in place to be translated.
>> >
>> > Is this planned?
>>
>> It most certainly is and if it starts to become very likely t
Hi,
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
wrote:
>
> * Rygel is already readily available in two major distributions:
> Debian and Fedora.
Now it's also available in Ubuntu (lucid). Its also available in an
unofficial Gentoo repo: http://gpo.zugaina.org/net-misc/rygel
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> Samba is software for big installations, and primarily used on
> non-desktop servers.
Well, it _serves_ files, so it is natural to expect it to be on
servers. But I do not know what exactly positions it as "for big
installations". Samba is found in set-top-boxes, on mobile devices (I
just seen it
Le lundi 22 février 2010 à 17:21 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
> > I do not really care about admin intervention, honestly. I just prefer
> > to have a single server process on my system, regardless of the number
> > of users.
>
> That sounds like a pretty weak argument, of the "Unix nosta
Hi,
2010/2/22 Javier Jardón :
> 2010/2/22 Lennart Poettering :
>>
>> Well, we already run apache as part of the user session from
>> gnome-user-share.
>>
>> GNOME is certainly focussed on the desktop, or similar user
>> interfaces. As such it should provide services for building user
>> interfaces
On Mon, 22.02.10 19:05, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) (zee...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Should we really keep the UI at all? The options offered therein appear
> > very esoteric to me, and a trivial addition to
> > gnome-file-share-properties that would just introduce one simple
> > checkbox "Share my Music"
2010/2/22 Lennart Poettering :
>
> Well, we already run apache as part of the user session from
> gnome-user-share.
>
> GNOME is certainly focussed on the desktop, or similar user
> interfaces. As such it should provide services for building user
> interfaces, not server machines.
A bit OT but I'd
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sun, 21.02.10 14:50, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote:
>
>> - The preferences UI is pretty horrible
>
> Should we really keep the UI at all? The options offered therein appear
> very esoteric to me, and a trivial addition
On Sun, 21.02.10 14:50, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote:
> - The preferences UI is pretty horrible
Should we really keep the UI at all? The options offered therein appear
very esoteric to me, and a trivial addition to
gnome-file-share-properties that would just introduce one simple
check
On Mon, 22.02.10 15:27, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > That is because you seem to be keen on admin intervention while I am
> > keen on each user to be as free (from admin) as possible. :)
> I do not really care about admin intervention, honestly. I just prefer
> to have a
On Mon, 22.02.10 14:29, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it
> > right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main
> > target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for
> > example e
Sorry for being unclear. Sure I know the difference between UPnP and
CIFS. I am just saying that approach (I incorrectly called it "use
case") "single system-level daemon + multiple user-controlled
user-specific resources" looks architecturally better than "multiple
user-level daemons".
Sergey
PS
On Mon, 22.02.10 12:08, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > From reading description, it seems to me that Rygel would be better
> > suited as system service. Just like for example mt-daapd (which seem
> > to have the same purpose as Rygel but for DAAP). How does it fit GNOME?
>
On Mon, 22.02.10 09:13, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote:
> > > I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page:
> > > http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
> >
> > pbor pointed out on IRC that I didn't really have a nice description
> > on the homepage so I corrected that.
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 14:29 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
> > Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it
> > right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main
> > target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for
> > example each user can choos
> Not really. Can the user share his directories if the system-wide
> deamon is not running? Sure, if the user has admin privileges she is
> asked for the authentication and is able to start samba daemon but we
> can't assume each user has the admin rights.
Well, there always external system-level
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Sergey Udaltsov
wrote:
>> Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it
>> right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main
>> target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for
>> example each user can choos
> Just because others do it in a particular way, doesn't make it
> right. Although Rygel can be run as a system-wide service, the main
> target use-case is that of providing services per-user[1] so for
> example each user can choose to share his media on the network rather
> than every user's med
Le lundi 22 février 2010, à 16:23 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Where will the strings appear? If it's just error strings in a log file,
> > then they don't have to be translated, for example.
>
>Yeah something like that. How
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Vincent Untz wrote:
>>
>> It most certainly is and if it starts to become very likely that my
>> proposal will be approved, I'll put this in my high-priority todo
>> list.
>
> Heh, the logic should be reversed :-) It can't be approved (or likely to
> be appr
Le lundi 22 février 2010, à 15:02 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
> Hi Frederic!
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> > Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> >
> >> Adoption & GNOME-ness, community:
> >
> > We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be re
Am Sonntag, den 21.02.2010, 18:12 +0200 schrieb Zeeshan Ali:
> I agree but I really suck at UIs
You could ask for a review on the usability mailing list.
andre
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Hi Frederic!
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>
>> Adoption & GNOME-ness, community:
>
> We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be really
> nice if Rygel had the infrastructure in place to be translated.
>
> Is this planne
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Sergey Udaltsov
wrote:
>> From reading description, it seems to me that Rygel would be better
>> suited as system service. Just like for example mt-daapd (which seem
>> to have the same purpose as Rygel but for DAAP). How does it fit GNOME?
> Absolutely corre
> From reading description, it seems to me that Rygel would be better
> suited as system service. Just like for example mt-daapd (which seem
> to have the same purpose as Rygel but for DAAP). How does it fit GNOME?
Absolutely correct point! Folks, when did you decided that GNOME is
for PCs only ("
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 01:51:50AM +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> wrote:
> > What is it?
> >
> > I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page:
> > http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
>
> pbor pointed out on IRC tha
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> Adoption & GNOME-ness, community:
We have pride in our incredible translation teams; it would be really
nice if Rygel had the infrastructure in place to be translated.
Is this planned?
Cheers,
Frederic
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
wrote:
> What is it?
>
> I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page:
> http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
pbor pointed out on IRC that I didn't really have a nice description
on the homepage so I corrected that. Please c
Hi,
- Original message -
>
> The only comments I would make are:
> - The preferences UI is pretty horrible
I agree but I really suck at UIs so if you could list specific issues, I
promise to fix them soon. As you recall you filed some bugs regarding this and
I fixed them all soon aft
On Sun, 21.02.10 14:50, Bastien Nocera (had...@hadess.net) wrote:
> - The plugin API should instead be a convenience library around using
> the D-Bus API, which would make implementing other front-ends to those
> plugins easier.
With D-Bus API you mean http://live.gnome.org/Rygel/MediaServerSpec
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 23:57 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> What is it?
>
> I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page:
> http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
>
> Target: desktop
>
> Dependencies:
>
> * internal:
> * glib
> * gio
> * libuuid
> * libsoup
>
> 3.0 readiness: I think so! The only specific & relevant thing i find
> on ThreePointTwenty wiki is " GObject introspection".
Oops, I meant ThreePointZero plan wikipage. :)
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Regards,
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124
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What is it?
I hate unneeded redundancy so I'll just ask you to read the home page:
http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
Target: desktop
Dependencies:
* internal:
* glib
* gio
* libuuid
* libsoup
* dbus-glib
* external:
* vala
* gupnp-vala
* gupnp
* gupnp-av
* gstr
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