Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-31 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
James Henstridge wrote: The question was: if gcc has already been paged in (e.g. by a prior xrdb call), does this change provide any noticeable benefit? No, it doesn't. The previous discussions seemed to indicate that the largest performance wins would come from not paging gcc in at all,

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 11:54 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 17:32 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: Using a smaller CPP and delaying xrdb's execution until everything else is started is the right solution here. You need to run xrdb before gnome-session (re)starts any

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 13:16 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: I've just sent a patch (http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2005-October/msg00024.html) for using -nocpp where possible. Cool, that will help. I was also trying to run the other xrdb command (which reads ~/.Xresources and all

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread James Henstridge
Rodrigo Moya wrote: I've just sent a patch (http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2005-October/msg00024.html) for using -nocpp where possible. Given the problems mentioned before with parsing Xresources without a cpp, is this actually worth it? From previous messages, I was under the

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 20:01 +0800, James Henstridge wrote: I've just sent a patch (http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2005-October/msg00024.html) for using -nocpp where possible. Given the problems mentioned before with parsing Xresources without a cpp, is this actually worth it?

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread James Henstridge
Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 20:01 +0800, James Henstridge wrote: I've just sent a patch (http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnomecc-list/2005-October/msg00024.html) for using -nocpp where possible. Given the problems mentioned before with parsing Xresources without a cpp,

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 22:31, Alan Cox wrote: On Llu, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Hi One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb -merge execution. Make xrdb use

do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb -merge execution. Ben Kahn came up with a list of apps that still need this: acroread 5 Emacs Anything written in Tk (aMSN, crossover office, much

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rodrigo Moya So, do we really want to keep around the xrdb thing in gnome-settings-daemon? How about an off-by-default GConf key? Lots of workstation deployments I know about really benefit from the xrdb stuff (heaps of motif and xforms). - Jeff -- Ubuntu USA Europe Tour: Oct-Nov

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: acroread 5 Emacs Anything written in Tk (aMSN, crossover office, much corporate custom software) Anything written in Motif (slowly being replaced, but still a lot of software) Anything written in XForms (oddly, a lot of scientific

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb -merge execution. Oh, as the settings can be applied at any time in the startup, has anyone

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:16 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb -merge execution. Oh, as the

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:41 +0200, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Rodrigo Moya So, do we really want to keep around the xrdb thing in gnome-settings-daemon? How about an off-by-default GConf key? Lots of workstation deployments I know about really benefit from the xrdb stuff (heaps of

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le lundi 17 octobre 2005 à 09:32 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : we could achieve the same benefit by just calling xrdb with the -nocpp We tried that before Ubuntu 5.10 and had some issues: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14268 Cheers, Sebastien Bacher

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 17:32 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: Using a smaller CPP and delaying xrdb's execution until everything else is started is the right solution here. You need to run xrdb before gnome-session (re)starts any Motif apps, for example. Federico

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Hi One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb -merge execution. Make xrdb use decus cpp and it takes basically zero time. Trivial fix