[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Enhancement request logged upstream to make the old dual behaviour available again: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gsettings-desktop-schemas/issues/3 Unfortunately the modes are mutually exclusive in the current GNOME design: so you can't have both 'areas' and 'fingers' simultaneously unless you use the workaround in comment #18. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
"pretty narrow set of hardware" is absolutely false. It is tuned for laptops that have clickpads which most of them these days, with only the exception of some Dell and HP "business" laptops. Everything else ships with clickpads that support 2 or more fingers (even including most Dell and HP laptops) Regardless, you can go back to the old driver with the old dual behaviour: 1. sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 2. Only login to "Ubuntu" (Xorg sessions). Not "Ubuntu on Wayland". 3. Tweak your personal preferences with the 'synclient' tool. 4. Save your personal preferences as a command to run on login in 'gnome-session-properties'. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Prior to the the version of gnome that ships with 18.04, both forms of right-click worked out of the box. Sure, there are other trackpads that don't have the area-based right click, so maybe it's not just "tuned for Mac", but it is tuned for a pretty narrow set of hardware. Whether it was intentional or not, the change felt like a regression and functionality wise it still is, because you have to chose between the two behaviors, and you can't have both. On my touchpad, at least, right-clicking with two fingers is very unergonomic, because you have to be very precise with finger spacing and timing. Too close, and you get a left-click, if you don't hit the track pad fairly hard and at exactly the same time, it scrolls instead of right-clicking. Apple tunes for this, and it works well on their hardware, but Dell doesn't, and it doesn't. It would be nice if we could have both behaviors enabled by default. Seems like that would accommodate the most people. Especially just after 18.04 was released, I couldn't find any information on fixing this. On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 18:10 Daniel van Vugt "tuned for Mac users" is incorrect, as is the term "normal touchpads" to > refer to personal preference, as is the assertion that people didn't ask > for the feature. ChromeOS laptops only support two-fingers to right > click. And you will find the majority of modern Windows laptops also > support two fingers to right click out of the box. Sometimes in addition > to corner support, but read on... > > If there is paint on the touchpad of some specific laptop model > designating fake buttons, we can't detect that in software. Corner > clicking is also a bad idea for usability because it forces the user to > look at the touchpad in order to know which virtual button they are > clicking. Using two fingers however does not require looking at the > touchpad, only feeling that both fingers are on it. > > That all said, a fix for the discoverability of the setting is planned > for a future release: https://trello.com/c/i3JvebJ9 which will be enough > to make everyone happy, regardless of the default setting. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a > duplicate bug report (1761834). > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 > > Title: > Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work > > Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: > Invalid > > Bug description: > The right (second) touchpad click does not work. > It ceased to work about three months ago. > ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
"tuned for Mac users" is incorrect, as is the term "normal touchpads" to refer to personal preference, as is the assertion that people didn't ask for the feature. ChromeOS laptops only support two-fingers to right click. And you will find the majority of modern Windows laptops also support two fingers to right click out of the box. Sometimes in addition to corner support, but read on... If there is paint on the touchpad of some specific laptop model designating fake buttons, we can't detect that in software. Corner clicking is also a bad idea for usability because it forces the user to look at the touchpad in order to know which virtual button they are clicking. Using two fingers however does not require looking at the touchpad, only feeling that both fingers are on it. That all said, a fix for the discoverability of the setting is planned for a future release: https://trello.com/c/i3JvebJ9 which will be enough to make everyone happy, regardless of the default setting. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Once again, Gnome pushing down "features" tuned for Mac users that people with normal touchpads don't want and didn't ask for. I came here from this article: https://medium.com/@pck/ubuntu-18-04-fix- for-right-click-not-working-touchpad-issues-40037ff249e1 Thank God it can still be disabled and reverted to the old behavior: https://itsfoss.com/fix-right-click-touchpad-ubuntu/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Randy, It is true, but we have different definitions of "old". By "old behaviour" we are referring to previous Gnome releases that also used libinput. And by "old behaviour" you are referring to much older releases of Ubuntu (Unity) that used the X synaptics touchpad driver instead of libinput. You can get back to your desired much older behaviour by installing package 'xserver-xorg-input-synaptics'. You can then tweak it in great deal using the 'synclient' tool. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Randy, It is true, but we have different definitions of "old". By "old behaviour" we are referring to previous Gnome releases that also used libinput. And by "old behaviour" you are referring to much older releases of Ubuntu (Unity) that used the X synaptics touchpad driver instead of libinput. You can get back to your desired much older behaviour by installing package 'xserver-xorg-input-synaptics'. You can then tweak it in great detail using the 'synclient' tool. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
The claim that "You can get the old behavior back with the GNOME Tweaks app" is simply not true. You can toggle between the two menu methods (two-finger tap and bottom-right click), but I cannot get back the old behavior of being able to do BOTH. This is not asking people to choose between the Mac method and the Windows method; this is asking people to choose between the Mac method and some hobbled version of the Windows method. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
I opened an issue upstream about this: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME /gnome-control-center/issues/229 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Javier, If your physical buttons (the ones that move independently of the touchpad, and not just painted on) are not behaving correctly then please log a bug with: ubuntu-bug libinput10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
I have an Acer Aspire 3 and Ubuntu 18.04, the touchpad works correctly according to the gnome configuration, that is, a finger anywhere is primary or left click, two fingers is secondary or right click and three fingers central click. However my notebook also has two physical buttons, left and right. The left behaves as it should, but the right behaves like left (that is, the two behave as a primary button). Of course it is very comfortable behavior with the default configuration and no need to use physical buttons (in fact, I do not think that use in the future), but it is a small inconvenience that the right physical button behaves as left. Maybe a small correction is not difficult. In ubuntu 16.04 both physical buttons worked as expected. Anyway, I congratulate the developers for such a wonderful user experience! Regards... Javier Beluge -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Yes, that is mentioned in https://trello.com/c/i3JvebJ9 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Yes, that is mentioned in https://trello.com/c/i3JvebJ9 Although you then face the problem of upsetting people who prefer doing two-finger taps :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Would it be possible to make 'area' mode the default if the touchpad doesn't support multi-finger input? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
Mike, I agree we need smarter defaults and have proposed that for 18.10 here: https://trello.com/c/i3JvebJ9 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
I had GNOME (rather than Unity) as my default desktop before upgrading to 18.04, and I strongly believe that my settings should have been respected rather than overridden to the installation default. Whatever the merits of the choice of installation default, it seems clear error to impose it over a previously existing GNOME installation. My touchpad has hardware left and right buttons, and it is my understanding that it should therefore not default to "finger" mode but should instead default to "area" mode. I was not able to get two-finger secondary click to work in "finger" mode at all. The laptop is an Acer V3-574 and the touchpad identifies in dmesg as follows: hid-multitouch 0018:04F3:300B.0001: Ignoring the extra HID_DG_INPUTMODE input: ELAN0501:00 04F3:300B Touchpad as /devices/pci:00/INT3432:00/i2c-0/i2c-ELAN0501:00/0018:04F3:300B.0001/input/input8 hid-multitouch 0018:04F3:300B.0001: input,hidraw0: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse [ELAN0501:00 04F3:300B] on i2c-ELAN0501:00 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
I think we should improve this in 18.10 by moving the setting from gnome-tweaks into gnome-control-center. That way most users will actually find it, and be able to resolve the issue themselves. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1759300] Re: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work
This is viewed as a confusing regression by a portion of the userbase[0]. God knows it destroyed my workflow (and morning) when I updated to 18.04 from 16.04. For some of us 'old farts' who never use macs and always relied on the "areas" behavior in both Linux and Windows it would be helpful to have been told that the behavior changed and how to change it back, or simply just asked, on installation, which option you want. [0] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028776/no-secondary-button-right- click-on-touchpad/1028857#1028857 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gsettings-desktop-schemas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1759300 Title: Gnome Shell: Touchpad right click (bottom right) area does not work Status in gsettings-desktop-schemas package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: The right (second) touchpad click does not work. It ceased to work about three months ago. ubuntu 18,04 aser ex2519 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1759300/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
