In my previous post, I have suggested a different approach to the
current problem. What do you think of it?
Instead of having flags for every citation field, I suggested:
- have styles for citations
- AND allow more than one citation styles in the same document
-- styles are set globally
On 1/30/07, Leonard Mada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Instead of having flags for every citation field, I suggested:
- have styles for citations
- AND allow more than one citation styles in the same document
-- styles are set globally (therefore, IF one decides to change a
style, he changes all
Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
But this all can get very tricky to deal with, particularly when you
consider things like substitution logic (what happens when there's no
author?), first/subsequent citations, and so forth. I worry how adding
this flexibility would impact implementations.
1. first/
That was my point, I don't think the citation field does need locale.
The *source* needs it, as it might be cited by another document in a
format which requires locale.
I tinkered with it and found what might be a problem though. The
RFC3066 string put out as meta data is specified by the
I took a brainstorming session today on this issue and I would like to
add some of my thinking to this discussion:
- I now believe that flags are a less than optimal idea
-- they add to much complexity (many flags necessary to do something
more complex)
-- they limit the things that could be
On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Matthias Basler wrote:
James Howison wrote:
From time to time users are going to want to drop out of the style
defined ways of citing and use the flags themselves (ie I like this
style in general, but I want a comma instead of a semi-colon
separating the
On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
I, for example, don't see why we should allow users to change the
delimiter for a citation per James' example above.
Ahem, just to be clear, I mean *locally.* E.g. I don't see why the
global configuration of a style says the citation should
On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
I, for example, don't see why we should allow users to change the
delimiter for a citation per James' example above.
Ahem, just to be clear, I mean *locally.* E.g. I don't see why the
Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Ahem, just to be clear, I mean *locally.* E.g. I don't see why the
global configuration of a style says the citation should be (Doe,
1999), and we have to allow users to be able to have some citations be
(Doe:1999), *and* to remain live and updateable.
However, IF a user
On Jan 28, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Gannon Dick wrote:
As I see it, there are several reasons to keep locale. None are
related to computer processing, but rather Library Science.
Locale for the source metadata, sure, but I'm still unclear why the
citation field itself needs it.
Bruce
Well, here's the citation field switches in Microsoft's Open XML
format, which we have to be able to convert in and out of:
\l The text in this switch's field-argument specifies the locale which
shall be used in conjunction with the specified bibliographic style to
format the citation in
Hi,
I'm making some minor changes to the ODF citation field that I hope
will be added soon. One change I want to make is to add control to the
local styling attribute. This is the flag that will say, for example,
suppress author, so that you get (1999) instead of (Doe, 1999).
My question
Bruce,
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:42:06AM -0500, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
I'm making some minor changes to the ODF citation field that I hope
will be added soon. One change I want to make is to add control to the
local styling attribute. This is the flag that will say, for example,
suppress
On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Hi,
I'm making some minor changes to the ODF citation field that I hope
will be added soon. One change I want to make is to add control to
the local styling attribute. This is the flag that will say, for
example, suppress author, so that
Bruce,
Support for formal local style seems a good idea. Do we need to
consider at
this point the issue of options of footnote citations ? If yes then 'formal
local style' selection that includes variants with exclusions could handle
much of that complexity and take it away from the
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