I am not dev of cassandra, sub this list because i'm dev for app using it.
To me, this (phone home) opens a door, and it may designed to be used only for
carefully selected anonymous data:
1) but software has at least one bug (side effect), what happen it sends
something more accidentally? Also,
Dne 16.11.2011 23:58, Bill napsal(a):
We'll turn this off, and would possibly patch it out of the code.
That's not to say it wouldn't be useful to others.
we patch out of code spyware in ehcache and quartz too. This is only way
to be sure that it will not be enabled by configuration mistake.
W
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Jeremy Hanna
wrote:
> Sounds like it would be best if it were in a separate jar for people?
A separate jar (distributed separately) sounds like the best way to
setup an opt-in arrangement without forcing people to patch-out the
affected bits.
> On Nov 16, 2011, a
+1 for a separate jar (and a second download link that doesn't include this
jar, though I would make the primary link include it with BIG BOLD PRINT saying
it is in there)
+1 for a config option to turn off auto-post (defaulted on in the download that
has the jar)
+1 for a nodetool command to du
Sounds like it would be best if it were in a separate jar for people?
On Nov 16, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bill wrote:
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> We'll turn this off, and would possibly patch it out of the code. That's not
> to say it wouldn't be useful to others.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 15/11/11 23:23, Jonath
> Thoughts?
>
We'll turn this off, and would possibly patch it out of the code. That's
not to say it wouldn't be useful to others.
Bill
On 15/11/11 23:23, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
still trickling in), but as useful as that i
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> Sounds like the consensus is that if this is a good idea at all, it
> needs to be opt-in. Like I said earlier, I can live with that.
In addition, if you want to get data from large companies that manage
their own datacenters, there needs
Sounds like the consensus is that if this is a good idea at all, it
needs to be opt-in. Like I said earlier, I can live with that.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Jake Luciani wrote:
> Having worked at places where you get fired if software *attempts* to
> contact outside world I understand th
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
>> There probably is a rather large group of "shadow" users whose
>> (valuable?) input doesn't make it to the list or bug tracker. It
>> sounds like Gary is questioning whether we should
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
> There probably is a rather large group of "shadow" users whose
> (valuable?) input doesn't make it to the list or bug tracker. It
> sounds like Gary is questioning whether we should be giving these
> people a voice. Assuming I have that right
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
>> Here is what should determine where energy is spent: if enough people
>> are willing to expend the effort to voice their concerns about feature
>> X in JIRA and on the mailing list,
This brings up a nice possibility also for businesses to have Cassandra
outsourced monitoring service(s)/solutions(s) from ring
infrastructure perspective.
Any chance the URL Cassandra posts information too can be configurable
also? Maybe even an abstract class so others can extend it and the fir
Having worked at places where you get fired if software *attempts* to
contact outside world I understand the concerns.
However, if it's opt-in via config file and requires a restart then there
is no reason why it should be a concern.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Zhu Han wrote:
> On Wed, No
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
> Here is what should determine where energy is spent: if enough people
> are willing to expend the effort to voice their concerns about feature
> X in JIRA and on the mailing list, and there are people willing to do
> the technical work, and
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 17:23, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
> still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get
> feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base. This will
> let us prioritize our development
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Eric Evans wrote:
> How much value do you think there is from a subset sent from a
> self-selecting group?
A fair amount. [1] [2]
[1]
http://amp.cs.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-Case-for-Evaluating-MapReduce-Performance-Using-Workload-Suites.pdf
[2
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Brian O'Neill wrote:
>> Maybe a good old fashioned web form that allows companies to submit their
>> usage scenarios might accomplish the same goal?
>
> I suppose we could dump the information to a file some
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Brian O'Neill wrote:
> Maybe a good old fashioned web form that allows companies to submit their
> usage scenarios might accomplish the same goal?
I suppose we could dump the information to a file somewhere as a
fallback way to submit, but I wouldn't want to make
Lively thread...
+1 opt-in
+1 in separate module
I'll just substantiate Rick Shaw's comments. If this is on by default, I
can see it making its way into production at a large corporation, at which
time the traffic would sound an alarm as suspicious activity, which would
immediately get the serve
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Eric Evans wrote:
>> I think this is potentially quite dangerous; There are a lot people
>> who get very twitchy at the idea of software that Phones Home. I've
>> seen this so many times, and in all cases i
should) - even stick a "Enable/Disable" switch on top of it.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Dave Brosius [mailto:dbros...@baybroadband.net]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. November 2011 02:25
An: dev@cassandra.apache.org
Betreff: Re: How is Cassandra being used?
+1 for an opt-in appro
+1 for an opt-in approach. To get better opt-in rates perhaps prompt for it on
start (once) rather than hope folks find it buried in the yaml
Eric Evans wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
>> I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
>> s
On 11/15/2011 09:01 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Eric Evans wrote:
I think this is potentially quite dangerous; There are a lot people
who get very twitchy at the idea of software that Phones Home. I've
seen this so many times, and in all cases it was for software
rting (+1)
2) Automated feedback (opt in +1)
p
From: Jonathan Ellis
To: dev
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011, 23:23
Subject: How is Cassandra being used?
I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
still trickling in), but as
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Norman Maurer wrote:
> 2011/11/16 Jonathan Ellis :
> > I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
> > still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get
> > feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base. This wi
2011/11/16 Jonathan Ellis :
> I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
> still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get
> feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base. This will
> let us prioritize our development efforts to better address
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> I don't think the cases are parallel. Terracotta added this in (a) a
> minor release, (b) without mentioning it in the release notes, and (c)
> without a method to disable it.
for c) it can be disabled :)
Just curious, who owns this Phone
I don't think the cases are parallel. Terracotta added this in (a) a
minor release, (b) without mentioning it in the release notes, and (c)
without a method to disable it.
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Radim Kolar wrote:
> ppl hate EHCache and Quartz for doing this.
>
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Jonathan Ellis
Pr
ppl hate EHCache and Quartz for doing this.
Yes of course. But then an alarm would sound, emails to management would be
sent, and the violator of the corporate policy would be hunted down and dealt
with accordingly...
The point is that the responsible parties are expected to NOT do such things in
the first place. I expect many shops are
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Rick Shaw wrote:
> Speaking from the perspective of a large corporation with many and varied
> privacy and IP protection requirements it will be totally impossible to send
> ANY kind of data into the public network from a production Data Center.
At the risk of
Speaking from the perspective of a large corporation with many and varied
privacy and IP protection requirements it will be totally impossible to send
ANY kind of data into the public network from a production Data Center.
I expect most companies with similar concerns would want to be ASSURED t
On 11/15/2011 09:01 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Eric Evans wrote:
I think this is potentially quite dangerous; There are a lot people
who get very twitchy at the idea of software that Phones Home. I've
seen this so many times, and in all cases it was for software
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Eric Evans wrote:
> I think this is potentially quite dangerous; There are a lot people
> who get very twitchy at the idea of software that Phones Home. I've
> seen this so many times, and in all cases it was for software a lot
> less sensitive than a database.
T
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
> still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get
> feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base. This will
> let us prioritize our developm
I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are
still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get
feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base. This will
let us prioritize our development efforts to better address what
people are actually using it f
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