On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Remi Bergsma r...@remi.nl wrote:
Bug fixing in older releases is actually a lot of work. For security related
issues we could maybe do it.
Personally, I prefer to have a fast release cycle and smooth (tested) upgrade
paths over 2-year LTS release cycle. It's
On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Rene Moser m...@renemoser.net wrote:
Sebastien,
So wouldn't it be nice to make clear which release is still supported
and which release is not?
On 03.07.2015 09:20, sebgoa wrote:
I think we got in a situation with 4.4 that called for us to keep
Sebastien,
So wouldn't it be nice to make clear which release is still supported
and which release is not?
On 03.07.2015 09:20, sebgoa wrote:
I think we got in a situation with 4.4 that called for us to keep maintaining
4.3….and even after 4.5 was released. Because 4.3 was seen as a good
Bug fixing in older releases is actually a lot of work. For security related
issues we could maybe do it.
Personally, I prefer to have a fast release cycle and smooth (tested) upgrade
paths over 2-year LTS release cycle. It's more agile. As a bonus, people get
the new features.
The more
Hi everyone,
Thanks for a great discussion.
I understand it may be difficult to support releases for several years with
CloudStack’s fast paced development, and the statistics Leo shared are
certainly not what I was aiming for.
I think it will be difficult to gather agreement in this stage
Hey hey,
Ooh, interesting topic. I'm going to top-post because I want to focus on the
big picture!
* Apache HTTPD provides 8+ years of support for old releases.
* Tomcat provides 6+ years of support for N-2 release.
* Ant provides 12+ years of backward compatiblity, so far.
(details below)
I
my 2 cents again:
Whether we have this LTS release or not - is not just about having release
- we need a WAY to focus here on FIXING, POLISHING product and more
important to stimulate/make developers interested in doing so.
If this was company owned product, it would be very easy to set goals,
On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
my 2 cents again:
Whether we have this LTS release or not - is not just about having release
- we need a WAY to focus here on FIXING, POLISHING product and more
important to stimulate/make developers interested in
;
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS Releases
On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
my 2 cents again:
Whether we have this LTS release or not - is not just about having release
- we need a WAY to focus here on FIXING, POLISHING product and more
important
want to have a
production ready system and they perhaps be less likely to install and test the
non-LTS release.
Andrei
- Original Message -
From: ChunFeng chunf...@domolo.com
To: dev dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, 27 November, 2014 10:36:46 AM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS
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From: Andrei Mikhailovskyand...@arhont.com;
Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2014 08:51 PM
To: devdev@cloudstack.apache.org;
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS Releases
ChunFeng,
I think as long as there is a change to the current efforts it will improve the
stability of the product. At the moment, it is clearly
I'm not really in favor of LTS support, it's a good idea, but not sure it
can be backed by the community?[open question here ;)]. I don't think it
fit in our current model for few reasons:
- Upgrade path might become impossible as patches become part of multiple
versions. We could end up with
Hi,
On 11/25/2014 12:30 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
Hi,
During CCCEU14 conference and over emails, I spoke with many CloudStack users
and I think most of us would like to have and use LTS releases. I propose
that;
- We encourage a habit to backport a bugfix to all qualifying branches
Like Wido, I also agree with LTS, but also think 4.3 is kind of old by now and
4.4.2 is looking good.
Perhaps take a step back and see how 4.5 goes and start with that one?
--
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- Original Message -
From: Rohit Yadav
Hi Wido and Lucian,
There are many ways to get to a stable product including fixing coverity
issues, unit/integration tests etc. but one of those ways is to simply support
existing releases with bugfix releases because most CloudStack users just don’t
care about git workflows, or coverity or
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com wrote:
The 4.4 branch does not contain many bugfixes which are in 4.3 and on
master/4.5.
That is worrying, Rohit. As the rest of your mail is already a vote of
distrust, this part says we should not release 4.4.2 as it
!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
- Original Message -
From: Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
To: us...@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November, 2014 13:40:23
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS Releases
Hi Wido and Lucian,
There are many ways to get to a stable
-
From: Daan Hoogland daan.hoogl...@gmail.com
To: dev dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: us...@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November, 2014 13:56:12
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS Releases
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
wrote:
The 4.4 branch does
...@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS Releases
Daan,
I like 4.4 better than 4.3 for my use case and despite the bugs I hit it does
its job.
If I were to deploy today it would still be with 4.4. Hope this makes you feel
better. :-)
Lucian
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Nux
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote:
I like 4.4 better than 4.3 for my use case and despite the bugs I hit it does
its job.
If I were to deploy today it would still be with 4.4. Hope this makes you
feel better. :-)
It makes me feel the hero;) Seriously, I don't feel
Hey Daan,
On 25-Nov-2014, at 7:26 pm, Daan Hoogland daan.hoogl...@gmail.com wrote:
That is worrying, Rohit. As the rest of your mail is already a vote of
distrust, this part says we should not release 4.4.2 as it contains
regressions.
Looks like you skimmed my email and missed the following
Rohit, I consider you my friend and colleague, I could reply on
everything said but do not want to escalate on all the details. The
only remark I want to make is that 4.4 is open for commits from here
on in.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com wrote:
Hey Daan,
Top posting here as my remarks are mainly on the original topic.
I’m not in favor of supporting LTS releases as a community. The reasoning here
is that there is a huge chance that we will fragment the community in people
that just want to work on the latest and greatest and some other folks who
- Original Message -
Hi,
During CCCEU14 conference and over emails, I spoke with many
CloudStack users and I think most of us would like to have and use
LTS releases. I propose that;
- We encourage a habit to backport a bugfix to all qualifying
branches whether or not those
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