Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-05 Thread John Kinsella
service. Original message From: Logan Barfield lbarfi...@tqhosting.com Date: 03/12/2014 19:32 (GMT+03:30) To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password Passwords are most definitely a necessity, but not having SSH Keys in the GUI

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-04 Thread Alireza Eskandari
19:32 (GMT+03:30) To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password Passwords are most definitely a necessity, but not having SSH Keys in the GUI at this point just doesn't make any sense. To clarify my thoughts on the current password system: I think a re-write

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-03 Thread Logan Barfield
I'm all for making the password reset system more secure, as long as it isn't required. I don't think the risk is substantial for isolated networks, and being forced to reconfigure every template would be a big hassle. I do agree that SSH Key injection should also be available in the GUI. It's a

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-03 Thread Nux!
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2014 04:44:33 Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password A stupid question! I can't find the source of windows version of password manager! Where is it? Sent from Samsung Mobile. div Original message

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-03 Thread Nux!
: A secure way to reset VMs password Why do passwords at all? Why not just use ssh keys like AWS does. The functionality is already there just not in the ACS UI. Cloud-init already supports it which is available in most distros and therefore would not require CS specific scripts. At least

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-03 Thread Andrija Panic
are still used a lot. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Carlos Reategui create...@gmail.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2014 05:19:07 Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-03 Thread Logan Barfield
- Original Message - From: Carlos Reategui create...@gmail.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2014 05:19:07 Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password Why do passwords at all? Why not just use ssh keys like AWS does. The functionality is already

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread John Kinsella
Eskandari astro.alir...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, 28 November, 2014 09:34:02 Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password Another point to note is all the vms in production has to update with the new cloud-set-guest-password scripts because of the new password reset method. Thanks

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password That password reset infrastructure has bigger issues than just SSL. The server side works, but that’s about all I can say for it. This topic comes up every 6-12 months. :) I thought there was a Jira entry but I can’t find it…personally I’d love

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread Alireza Eskandari
@cloudstack.apache.org /divdivSubject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password /divdiv /divYou would need client-side certs as well since the password server needs to be able to validate WHO is asking for the password. Currently it is based on the client's IP address. Also the current scheme is a single-use password

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread Carlos Reategui
@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 1:32 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread John Kinsella
is it? Sent from Samsung Mobile. div Original message /divdivFrom: Chiradeep Vittal chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com /divdivDate:03/12/2014 02:05 (GMT+03:30) /divdivTo: dev@cloudstack.apache.org /divdivSubject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password /divdiv /divYou would need

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread John Kinsella
@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 1:32 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread Alireza Eskandari
there.https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8009 Thanks From: John Kinsella j...@stratosec.co To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password It's not our place to enforce how

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread Carlos Reátegui
@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password That password reset infrastructure has bigger issues than just SSL. The server side works, but that’s about all I can say for it. This topic

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread John Kinsella
@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 1:32 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.orgmailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread Carlos Reátegui
@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password That password reset infrastructure has bigger issues than just SSL. The server side works, but that’s about all I can say for it. This topic comes up every 6-12 months. :) I thought there was a Jira entry but I can’t find

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-12-02 Thread John Kinsella
@cloudstack.apache.org dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password It's not our place to enforce how users authenticate to their VMs. We provide flexible options, suggest best practices, and let them use the tool as best suits

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-28 Thread Erik Weber
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Alireza Eskandari astro.alir...@yahoo.com.invalid wrote: HiI viewed the bash script that resets Linux password ( http://download.cloud.com/templates/4.2/bindir/cloud-set-guest-password.in)It seems that it doesn't use a secure way for transferring password

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-28 Thread Jayapal Reddy Uradi
Another point to note is all the vms in production has to update with the new cloud-set-guest-password scripts because of the new password reset method. Thanks, Jayapal On 28-Nov-2014, at 2:28 PM, Erik Weber terbol...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Alireza Eskandari

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-28 Thread Andrija Panic
For me personaly, this Cloudstack feature is used only during damn I forgot my password and during deploying new VM from template. After I get access to VM - the password should be really changed anyway. I agree it's unsecure, but again you are supposed to change it - and not hope that the

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-28 Thread Nux!
@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Alireza Eskandari astro.alir...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, 28 November, 2014 12:05:53 Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password For me personaly, this Cloudstack feature is used only during damn I forgot my password and during deploying new VM from template. After

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-28 Thread Nux!
way to reset VMs password Another point to note is all the vms in production has to update with the new cloud-set-guest-password scripts because of the new password reset method. Thanks, Jayapal On 28-Nov-2014, at 2:28 PM, Erik Weber terbol...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 27

A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-27 Thread Alireza Eskandari
HiI viewed the bash script that resets Linux password (http://download.cloud.com/templates/4.2/bindir/cloud-set-guest-password.in)It seems that it doesn't use a secure way for transferring password string to instance.Instances on a shared network can sniff password requests and export

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-27 Thread Nux!
Sent: Thursday, 27 November, 2014 14:54:40 Subject: A secure way to reset VMs password HiI viewed the bash script that resets Linux password (http://download.cloud.com/templates/4.2/bindir/cloud-set-guest-password.in)It seems that it doesn't use a secure way for transferring password string

Re: A secure way to reset VMs password

2014-11-27 Thread Alireza Eskandari
PM Subject: Re: A secure way to reset VMs password +1 on this, Alireza I think it would be best if you submitted a bug in https://issues.apache.org/jira/ -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro