demos sites on cocoon zone (was: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs)

2005-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 mai 05, à 03:24, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...If I becomes the root of our zone, then I will be glad to provide all the necessary support to materialize this effort... Great, thanks! I've not used solaris yet but I've worked with many different unixes, if you can give me access I

RE: demos sites on cocoon zone (was: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs)

2005-05-27 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
1- Current released version 2- Daily SVN 2.1.x 3- Daily SVN 2.2.x.. Good idea, but I'm not sure if we want to have three versions there, maybe we should start with the release and go from there? YES! YES! YES! I mean: good idea to start with the current released version and go from

Re: demos sites on cocoon zone

2005-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 mai 05, à 09:43, Linden H van der ((MI)) a écrit : ...Just a thought: since much of the samples allow data entry, you'll quickly get to the point where the rubbish hides the usefulness. Add a cron job of some kind that replaces the build with a fresh one on a regular basis (once a day or a

Re: [RT] Block usage

2005-05-27 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Nathaniel Alfred wrote: -Original Message- From: Daniel Fagerstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2005 15:42 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Block usage a block deployer block Basically the block deployer will be a stand-alone

Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-27 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Leszek Gawron wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: snip/ It's a pity we cannot move .xconf files into jars. Why can't we? AFAIR due to the fact that resource:/ protocol is not as functional as file:/ (no directiories?)

Re: [RT] Block usage

2005-05-27 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Leszek Gawron wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: ... but there needs some work to enable the blocks:/ protocol, component management and block-aware flowscript (e.g. cocoon.blocks.blockA.myFunc()) There is a block:/ protocol in OSGi. I haven't read OSGi specification though - I saw it in

Re: demos sites on cocoon zone

2005-05-27 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 27 mai 05, à 03:24, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...If I becomes the root of our zone, then I will be glad to provide all the necessary support to materialize this effort... Great, thanks! +1 :) I've not used solaris yet but I've worked with many different

Re: Block builder and deployer

2005-05-27 Thread David Casal
Hi On 26 May 2005, at 14:42, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Do you see a point where they'll be able to put together semi-complex webapps in LEGO style? Dude, can you read? http://cocoon.apache.org/ [very first paragraph] Patently I cannot ;-) [nobody is responding because that's like asking:

Re: demos sites on cocoon zone

2005-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 mai 05, à 11:10, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit : ...Having all three would be nice. If I had to chose one I would start with trunk. That will give it some stress testing and make it mature faster. Also it will make us *very* motivated to fix bugs ;)... Once we have one instance going with

Bundled Jetty vs. full version

2005-05-27 Thread Ugo Cei
Hi, assuming I am about to put a Cocoon webapp behind an Apache 2.0 server with mod_proxy as explained in the Wiki, what do I lose by using the lite Jetty version distributed with Cocoon as opposed to the full version? Consider that authentication, crypto, virtual hosting, compression,

Re: Other default cocoon resources

2005-05-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: AFAIR due to the fact that resource:/ protocol is not as functional as file:/ (no directiories?) and it would be quite intensive operation to find .xconf files. Carsten made the resource: protocol traversable a couple of months ago. Nope,

Re: [RT] Block usage

2005-05-27 Thread David Casal
Hello Daniel, Thanks for your extremely edifying response. As with Stefano, will it be ok to cite some of your comments in this report? I may not cite you literally, but I need to credit you if I do. Would that be ok? The report will be published on Techwatch:

Rework block directory structure

2005-05-27 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Some time ago we decided that we want a flat directory structure (/cocoon/blocks/[block-name]/... instead of /cocoon/blocks/[community-status]/[block-name]/...) for blocks but we haven't yet changed it. I will do the move on Monday - please make sure that you have checked in all your

Re: [RT] Block usage

2005-05-27 Thread Reinhard Poetz
David Casal wrote: 6. The new block contain some new and intersting stuff that is not available before. After a number of refactorings it consists of a number of blocks that are reusable and solves well defined concerns. Now the user puts the blocks in a new project in Sourceforge (or

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Glen Ezkovich
On May 25, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Linden H van der (MI) wrote: Well, since there are no rules for documentation right now, everyone wanting to write documentation is free to use whatever tool they like. Sorry, but I haven't seen (apart from Upayavira and Ralph) anyone posting here's some

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Glen Ezkovich
On May 26, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: Glen Ezkovich wrote: Since documentation is best gathered in a CMS, because there will likely (hopefully) be more than one person working on it, this inevitably means that everyone should use THAT CMS to avoid scattering documentation

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Glen Ezkovich
On May 26, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Linden H van der (MI) wrote: Glen and Ross, Before duplicating my thoughts in similar replies I want to state this (replies in random order): I work in a university department, doing research, so I'm fully aware what it takes to go through the process of putting

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Noels
On 27 May 2005, at 03:24, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I believe, I am reading this mail with a time delay. What is clear to me is that I don't received a root password of the cocoon Solaris zone. And I don't know if the zone is already up. If I becomes the root of our zone, then I will be glad

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Glen Ezkovich wrote: ... I'm tired of the discussion about tool vs. people. We need people to write docs, we need tools to help them write docs. It is not an either or argument, why are people so polarised? I don't think we're polarized. I just think we each emphasis different

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 mai 05, à 14:47, Steven Noels a écrit : ...People interested in co-administering Daisy (users, creation of variants, ACL rules, sites): please stand up... I haven't used Daisy seriously yet, but if it's small things here and there you can count me in. -Bertrand smime.p7s

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35094] - [PATCH] TeeTransformer refactoring

2005-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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RE: [RFE] Some enhancements to XSP

2005-05-27 Thread Jochen Kuhnle
Nathaniel Alfred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.05.2005 16:34:13: I think I was too terse to make myself understand. With in-text replacement I meant h1Hello {username}/h1 as shortcut for h1Hello xsp:exprusername/xsp:expr/h1 I am against that because it risks to break

RE: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
Le 27 mai 05, à 14:47, Steven Noels a écrit : ...People interested in co-administering Daisy (users, creation of variants, ACL rules, sites): please stand up... My coworker and local Daisy expert, Patrick Ahles, agrees with helping out in user-administration provided it requires a limited

Re: Planet Cocoon license and reuse of docs

2005-05-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 27 mai 05, à 14:47, Steven Noels a écrit : ...People interested in co-administering Daisy (users, creation of variants, ACL rules, sites): please stand up... I haven't used Daisy seriously yet, but if it's small things here and there you can count me in. I'm

Re: Cocoon Users London Meetup in June

2005-05-27 Thread Upayavira
Mark Leicester wrote: Whoops, way too fast. If you are interested in coming along, please add your name here: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonUserGroupLondon Hello everyone, I'd like to invite Cocooners who will be in the London area on the evening of Wednesday June 15th, 2005 to an

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35094] - [PATCH] TeeTransformer refactoring

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 30432] - cinclude:cached-include doesn't work

2005-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Block builder and deployer

2005-05-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Casal wrote: That's what I'm after. So you see a roadmap whereby first you work on easy kernel installation -then- play semantics. Correct. The other way around would make the goal even harder to bootstrap. No advancement in an open source software happens if you don't capture some

Results of the Apache members meeting

2005-05-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez
There has been a meeting of the ASF members this week, and some of its results [1] are of particular interest to Cocoon: - Upayavira and Torsten have been elected members of the ASF, - Stefano has been reelected to the board. Congrats to all, and a warm welcome to the new members! Sylvain

XSP: EclipseJavaCompiler chokes on warings

2005-05-27 Thread Jochen Kuhnle
Hi, the EclipseJavaCompiler chokes on warnings, resulting in the XSP not working. This is because in line 365 (cocoon-2.1.8-dev), it checks against result.hasProblems() instead of result.hasErrors(). I'd like to propose an option so the compiler ignores warnings and fails only if there are

Re: svn commit: r178819 - /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/src/webapp/stylesheets/system/status2htm l.xslt

2005-05-27 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Vie, 27 de Mayo de 2005, 15:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Author: vgritsenko Date: Fri May 27 13:47:38 2005 New Revision: 178819 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=178819view=rev Log: add xalan / xerces version info Is change this saxon compatible? Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo.

Re: svn commit: r178778 - /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/src/blocks/forms/java/org/apache/cocoon/forms/datatype/DynamicSelectionList.java /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/src/blocks/forms/java/org/apache/cocoon/forms/formmodel/Field.java /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/status.xml

2005-05-27 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 27.05.2005 16:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: antonio Date: Fri May 27 07:05:02 2005 New Revision: 178778 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=178778view=rev Log: Cforms block: Improved dynamic selection list performance inside repeaters. Sorry, but I absolutely don't like it for

Re: svn commit: r178778 - /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/src/blocks/forms/java/org/apache/cocoon/ forms/datatype/DynamicSelectionList.java /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/src/blocks/forms/java/org/apache/cocoon/ forms/formmodel/Field.java /cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/status.xml

2005-05-27 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi Joerg: I am glad to see you active on the list again. As I told you in GT2004, I like your radar over my work. :-) [comments below] On Vie, 27 de Mayo de 2005, 19:02, Joerg Heinicke dijo: On 27.05.2005 16:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: antonio Date: Fri May 27 07:05:02 2005 New